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Camarade_Tux
Thanks fdv.

I'd like to make Windows not check the list.
From here : http://www.d--b.webpark.pl/dreampackpl_en.htm , I need this method:
QUOTE
Second often used function is SetupInstallFile (with SP_COPY_FORCE_IN_USE flag). This function before add a file to replace-list, check with SfcIsFileProtected (from sfc_os.dll) whether the file is protected or not. If file sfc_os.dll is patched, then SfcIsFileProtected will return always false. So SetupInstallFile will no add AllowProtectedRenames value to the registry.

Do you know of any patcher that uses only this method ?
dziubek
QUOTE (Kiki Burgh @ Apr 11 2006, 06:24 AM) *
hi dziubek!
this is what i've used likewise to come up with successful builds ...
i remember seeing your msg before about being stuck at T-9 & i suppose you used the same file too ... & perhaps resolved it by using the file from RyanVM ? smile.gif

btw, would this cat removal an option that the new test release already shows? i mean, i did not see it using the test release cmd ... how can this be done?

thanks!


Hi

SFCFILES.DL_]

Error from T -9 stepped out by file SFCFILES.DL_. I deleted his from FIX.
I use file sfc_os .dl_ only now.

dziubek
Super-Magician
QUOTE (dziubek @ Apr 10 2006, 11:20 PM) *
Can you add except acceptance the Y also the y by choice the removal of files of CAT ?

It's already added, dziubek. In the script, Tomcat wrote
CODE
IF /I "%THACATS%"=="Y" SET DELCATS=1

The /I switch results in a case insensitive comparison. So "y" should work as well as "Y".

QUOTE (Kiki Burgh @ Apr 11 2006, 12:24 AM) *
btw, would this cat removal an option that the new test release already shows? i mean, i did not see it using the test release cmd ... how can this be done?

Not sure if someone answered your question yet, but to remove the CAT files, you need the modified SFC*.DLL in FIX (of course, use the correct one for your OS). After the multiboot path screen, the script will ask you whether to remove the catalogs.
fdv
@Kiki Burgh - Ohhh, I see. We just had a filename mixup. You had "sfc_files.dll ... is not quite well compatible with winXP" but you meant SFC.DLL, not SFCFILES.
SFC.DLL without the word "files" in it is, in fact, for Windows 2000 only, as TP directs. SFCFILES is, after all, only just a list. So nothing to see here laugh.gif

@Camarade_Tux - Damian advocates just SFCFILES replacement. I have corresponded with him in the past and what he is referring to is only SFCFILES being emptied out. Note he says "So WFP is on" in paragraph 3. So, to have WFP off, use a modified SFC.DLL or SFC_OS.DLL and to avoid the OS loading up a list of protected files use also an empty SFCFILES.DLL. In other words, see my post above called the "overkill" method.

@Everybody
Anyway, everybody make sure you've added yourself to the HFSLIP world map.
dziubek
@Super-Magician

thanks for explanation smile.gif

QUOTE (fdv @ Apr 11 2006, 02:09 AM) *
Standing by for documentation changes.

On a different subject... SFCFILES.DLL by the way works on ALL versions of Windows, just to clear that up. SFC.DLL and SFC_OS.DLL are different matters entirely. You can use SFCFILES.DLL and no other modified binaries and SFC will be disabled. To recap, for the confused biggrin.gif



@fdv
When I used file sfcfiles.dl_ I had problem in T9 .
It sufficed to alter the name of file on sfc.dl_ problem would pass
Super-Magician
@Tomcat (or anyone),

Do you know if any of the hotfixes released today supersede ones previously released?

KB912812 (IE)
KB911562
KB908531
KB911567 (OE)

Also - are you going to be updating your update lists?
the_guy
The 912812 update supersedes 905915 and 910620 (IE 5.01SP4 only).

The 911567 update supersedes 823353, 887797, and 897715 on 2000 and XP SP1, and 887797 and 900930 on XP SP2.

the other 2 don't replace any updates to my knowledge.

the_guy
tommyp
@fdv - Can you shed some light on setupapi.dl_? Are these different for all the OSs?

With the latest round of hotfixes, there are some additional files that msft is putting on our systems. One is for the kb908531 update. Why are they forcing additional files on our systems now? Please stand by, I'm sure TC already figured out what's missing, but I sent him some tips on fixing up the script for this. Anyway, the fixes I had were for 2k only. I didn't test for XP.
Kiki Burgh
QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 11 2006, 09:14 PM) *
Not sure if someone answered your question yet, but to remove the CAT files, you need the modified SFC*.DLL in FIX (of course, use the correct one for your OS). After the multiboot path screen, the script will ask you whether to remove the catalogs.


QUOTE (dziubek @ Apr 11 2006, 08:45 PM) *
Hi

SFCFILES.DL_]

Error from T -9 stepped out by file SFCFILES.DL_. I deleted his from FIX.
I use file sfc_os .dl_ only now.

dziubek


QUOTE (fdv @ Apr 11 2006, 10:59 PM) *
@Kiki Burgh - Ohhh, I see. We just had a filename mixup. You had "sfc_files.dll ... is not quite well compatible with winXP" but you meant SFC.DLL, not SFCFILES.
SFC.DLL without the word "files" in it is, in fact, for Windows 2000 only, as TP directs. SFCFILES is, after all, only just a list. So nothing to see here laugh.gif


thanks for these! smile.gif
pardon me for the confusion ...

may i just know though where i could get the SFC*.DLL that would be compatible with my XPSP2 OS?
would there be anything else that i need to do other than this ... any editing for example?
fdv
From a different thread... SFC_OS.DLL

No editing is required. Just drop the file into FIX.

QUOTE
Can you shed some light on setupapi.dl_? Are these different for all the OSs?

not much other than the DLLs are indeed different. the edits to them are pretty much the same. i was never good with assembly. oleg clued me in to where the edits are, passed on from x-pert. he could tell us more of whats going on.

<shines the secret x-pert signal into the sky>
Tomcat76
MS Patch Day... Yuk.

I hope 60412a does the trick.
Kiki Burgh
QUOTE (fdv @ Apr 12 2006, 11:12 AM) *


thanks fdv smile.gif ... i've already downloaded the said file ... Ü
with this i guess i would not need to put in RVMAddonsSFC_1.0.cab & RVMAddonsSyssetup_1.0.cab?

-kiki-

i'va already added myslef to the HFSLIP map
EmRoD
Hello

testing the latestet build with the april hf, i'm having the following issues :

KB912812
KB911565
KB904942

not installed, here's my WU.txt and hflslip.log.

tested on a Corp Gold->SP2, fully working with the latest official build (06/01/06) and the march HF.

(anyway, any news for the april DX9 updates ?)
x-pert
setupapi.dl_ is different on all OSs, but patching is the same (yet newwink.gif ) - we just need to find right address. On the internet i saw couple methods for patching setupapi.dl_, but I prefer to stay on 8B FF 55 8B EC -> 33 C0 C2 30 00. If someone wants more info how to find right address in setupapi.dl_ - PM newwink.gif
tain
From NT Compatible:
http://www.ntcompatible.com/April_2006_Sec...age_s66225.html

This ISO-9660 CD image file contains the security update for Windows released on Windows Update on April 11th, 2006. This does not contain security updates for other Microsoft products. This CD image is intended for corporate administrators who manage large multinational organizations, who need to download multiple individual language versions of each security update, and who do not use an automated solution such as WSUS. Use this image to download multiple updates in all languages at the same time.

Caution: Be sure to check the individual security bulletins at http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security prior to deployment of these updates to ensure that the files have not been updated at a later date.

>> April 2006 Security Release ISO Image
Tomcat76
@EmRoD:

KB912812 should be OK now. I undid the fix for KB912945.

I don't know about KB911565 and KB904942. Nothing was changed in this regard.
dziubek
I used HFSLIP_60412b.CMD

I have the problem, during the work HFSLIP:

Expanding WindowsXP-KB884883-v8-x86-PLK.exe
TEMP\SP2QFE\comctl32.dll
TEMP\SP2QFE\explorer.exe
The number of copied files: 2.
Or WORK \ I386E \ ASMS defines I will name the file,
if the folder in the target folder
(F = file, D = folder)?


what I have to choose : F or D?
Tomcat76
dziubek... 60412c should fix that.
Super-Magician
QUOTE (EmRoD @ Apr 12 2006, 03:44 AM) *
(anyway, any news for the april DX9 updates ?)
EmRoD, I made a thread/topic for that. Just drop the "Apr2006_d3dx9_30_x86.cab" file into HFCABS, like for the previous DirectX for Managed Code updates.

(Just FYI, nothing will happen if you drop the XInput or XACT cabs into there as they aren't processed by HFSLIP.)

@Tomcat, did you receive the PM I sent you yesterday? It was just regarding the new hotfixes; you can actually disregard it now. I do have another question - will you be updating your update pages? I'd like to have a straight-forward list of what new hotfixes are needed and for which OS they are.
Tomcat76
@Super-Magician...

It's gonna take another day or two. I'm drowning in work and barely have the time to update HFSLIP for the new hotfixes...
Super-Magician
OK. Take your time newwink.gif!
dziubek
@Tomcat76
Can not download new version of hfslip: HFSLIP_60412d.7z
Page not found - HTTP 404
Greetings
Super-Magician
dziubek, according to the directory listing at http://users.telenet.be/tc76/hfslip/test/, Tomcat has not yet uploaded 60412d. You should probably try again in a few minutes or so.

Here is the link to the previous test release: http://users.telenet.be/tc76/hfslip/test/HFSLIP_60412c.7z
Super-Magician
KB911565 continues to fail to install properly, even with the newest test release (60412c).

All other hotfixes are now slipstreamed properly.

[attachment removed]
Tomcat76
I'll check it out. I wouldn't know what caused this, though. Nothing was changed there.


HFSLIP_60412d.7z is online now. Forgot to upload it... biggrin.gif
Tomcat76
Is there a file called kb911565.cat in SOURCESS\I386\SVCPACK?
What's the version of WMP.DLL in SOURCESS\I386\wmp.dl_? Is it 10.0.0.3990?


Is anyone else having this problem with KB911565?
Super-Magician
The file kb911565.cat exists in SOURCESS\I386\SVCPACK.

The version of WMP.DLL in SOURCESS\I386\WMP.DL_ is 10.0.0.3990.

EmRoD also had a problem with KB911565. Unlike him, I did not have any problem with KB904942.
Tomcat76
Does the problem with KB911565 also occur if you don't include the latest updates?

I normally test this thoroughly myself with every SP level but I can't do it before the weekend.
EmRoD
I'm now testing the latest test build thank you all smile.gif
Kiki Burgh
QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Mar 13 2006, 04:26 AM) *
XPize**.exe goes in the HF folder. By default, HFSLIP will slipstream it into the SOURCESS folder which means that you'll have to use a custom sfc.dll/sfc_os.dll file. If you prefer to have it installed silently during SVCPACK, create an answer file in the HFTOOLS folder named xpize.txt containing a line starting with "XPIZESW=/S" followed by any additional switches you wish to use. Refer to Chapter 4 of the XPize guide to learn more about the supported switches.
Basic example: XPIZESW=/S
Custom example: XPIZESW=/S /norestore /nocursors
Note that if neither an answer file nor the appropriate sfc*.dl_ file exist, HFSLIP will create a basic answer file and do an svcpack install instead. This is basically a safety net for people who don't read instructions.


hi Tomcat76!
i just need to verify of this is correct for a file named xpize.txt?
XPIZESW=/S /norestore /notask
just 1 line inside the txt file?

would this take care of the next buttons already & successfully silently install?
XPize has a prompt for reboot while with still about 10-13 minutes left during OS install when slipstreamed without the txt file in HFTOOLS folder

thanks!
Narag
QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 13 2006, 02:02 AM) *
Is there a file called kb911565.cat in SOURCESS\I386\SVCPACK?
What's the version of WMP.DLL in SOURCESS\I386\wmp.dl_? Is it 10.0.0.3990?


Is anyone else having this problem with KB911565?


I have also problems with KB911565, I have german Windows XP SP2, it integrates without problems, kb911565.cat is in the folder and wmp.dl_ has 10.0.0.3990 version. Still WU shows KB911565 and KB904942 as not installed.

I attach HFSLIP.LOG and also WU_MS.TXT (result of HFNETCHK -V -MS) and WU_SHAVLIK.TXT (result of HFNETCHK - V), because they give different results

Hope this helps
EmRoD
KB904942 & KB911565 not integrated...

kb911565.cat is in SVCPACK

Wmp.dll is version 10.0.0.3990
the_guy
Microsoft released a second version of 911565 for Windows XP. It includes wmp.dll version 10.0.0.4019.

I also believe Microsoft re-released 904942.

the_guy
dziubek
QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 13 2006, 04:09 AM) *
Does the problem with KB911565 also occur if you don't include the latest updates?

I normally test this thoroughly myself with every SP level but I can't do it before the weekend.


I can not check this , because WU doesn't work me sad.gif.
After starting WU the toolbar appears:
"this window has to require ActiveX control WINDOWS UPDATE from MICROSOFT WINDOWS PUBLISHER"
Click to install.

After his installation appears the error:
[The number of the error: 0x8DDD0004]


Advices aren't effective from this message:
http://www.alegsa.com.ar/N/i24/Problem%20w...0x8ddd0004).php

dziubek

edit:

I used HFSLIP_60412d.CMD
Narag
QUOTE (the_guy @ Apr 13 2006, 10:49 AM) *
Microsoft released a second version of 911565 for Windows XP. It includes wmp.dll version 10.0.0.4019.

I also believe Microsoft re-released 904942.

the_guy


Yes, they fixed seeking issue KB912226, so new version number - though I don't know if it helps with HFSLIP issue blink.gif

I'll try it (HFSLIP with new 911565 is running right now newwink.gif )

but I haven't found a change in 904942, at least in german version.

Narag
Super-Magician
I see! I will also try with the new 911565.

KB904942 is an optional update for Internet Explorer 7. If you don't install IE 7, I don't think there is any reason to include it. However, I do notice that it says the problem does not occur until IE 7 is installed. Does this mean I should include the hotfix?

Regarding the seeking issue (KB912226): On the page for KB911565, Microsoft does not say that the issue is fixed. It is still listed under "Known issues".
Narag
QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 13 2006, 02:52 PM) *
Regarding the seeking issue (KB912226): On the page for KB911565, Microsoft does not say that the issue is fixed. It is still listed under "Known issues".


You're right - I was too lazy to read thoroughly the whole thing - I thought they're releasing fix and not only bumping this fix to notify users about possible complications after installation of this fix. smile.gif
Tomcat76
KB904942 is an update for Outlook Express 6 but it's only needed when/if you install IE7.

Outlook Express 6 uses "a certain way" to access HTTP-based e-mail servers (such as Hotmail) which no longer works (or is no longer accepted) when you install Internet Explorer 7. KB904942 updates the way OE6 accesses HTTP-based e-mail servers in a way that's compatible with both IE6 and IE7. So the hotfix is not needed if you decide to not install IE7, but installing it anyway doesn't harm your system either.
dziubek
@Tomcat76
Can you direct Me what I do bad?
dziubek
Tomcat76
Did you redownload KB911565? It was updated according to the_guy. WMP.DLL is at version 10.0.0.4019 now.
Narag
QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 14 2006, 08:10 AM) *
Did you redownload KB911565? It was updated according to the_guy. WMP.DLL is at version 10.0.0.4019 now.

Yes, downloading V2 of KB911565 solved the problem - there simply WAS newer version of this fix smile.gif

Thanks Tomcat76 for your work

P.S.: Do you know why KB904942 doesn't get slipstreamed?
Tomcat76
I'll check it out tomorrow. But it worked before, didn't it?
dziubek
I redownloaded KB911565.

I did several tests.
I didn't use folders :HFSVCPACK & HFAAO

1. I used HFSLIP_60401.CMD
WU does not work.

2. I used HFSLIP_60414a.CMD, deleted *.CAT
WU doesn't work also.

3. I used HFSLIP_60414a.CMD, deleted *.CAT
I added KB917425, KB912812 and deleted KB905915
WU doesn't work

4. This test was identical as TEST3 only I left the files of the CAT.
WU doesn't work also sad.gif


Info: MS KB917425

dziubek
Tomcat76
If I remember correctly, your Windows Update problem isn't new. I don't know what "Microsoft Windows Publisher" is...
Narag
QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 14 2006, 12:04 PM) *
I'll check it out tomorrow. But it worked before, didn't it?


No, it didn't work for me.
Well, for me it's a minor issue as I don't plan to install IE7 in near/distant future smile.gif
Tomcat76
You can try 60415b for the KB904942-v2 problems. I'll start doing extensive tests in a while myself.
the_guy
I found out why 904942 doesn't get slipstreamed. The new version is only on Windows Update. You need to go to the Windows Update Catalog to download the new version.

the_guy
Camarade_Tux
Then could you please host it somewhere for the poor people that can't use WU ?
(nLite, blabla, removed, blabla, is able to restore BITS and AutoUpdate service but seems something else missing, blabla, wil dig into, blabla :flowers: )
Tomcat76
Thanks for the tip, the_guy. You are right. I installed the WU Catalog version by hand and then Windows Update stopped complaining.

I removed the "trial fix" for KB904942-v2 introduced in HFSLIP_60415a.

For the folks that are interested in having the WMP9/10 classic skin... It appears that the latest fix introduced about two days ago does the trick. Happy skinless experience... smile.gif
Tomcat76
New final is coming up. I just need to do one more test.

The fix for the "DX3 problem" on Windows 2003 will not be included in the final since noone seems to give a F. I can't test this myself because everything's fine on my end.




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