dziubek
Apr 15 2006, 08:09 AM
QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 15 2006, 02:48 PM)
New final is coming up. I just need to do one more test.
Can you add information as a conclusion the work HFSLIP to the file HFSLIP.LOG (statistics)?
Such information appears during the work HFSLIP:
CODE
10,906,496 bytes in 18 files
Total files: 18
Bytes before: 10,906,496
Bytes after: 3,914,106
After/Before: 35.89% compression
Time: 27.56 seconds ( 0 hr 0 min 27.56 sec)
Throughput: 386.43 Kb/second
Microsoft (R) Cabinet Maker - Version 5.1.2600.2180
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved..
(I see this before starting XPIZE)
The good way would be this to checking efficiency driver compression
dziubek
Super-Magician
Apr 15 2006, 08:10 AM
What exactly is causing dziubek's problems with WU?
Everything is perfect on my end for XP. Just tested yesterday. Microsoft Update does not complain at all.
Edit: @dziubek, although I think that adding that information to HFSLIP.LOG is a great idea, know that the information is generated by the MAKECAB module. Tomcat would have to do something like this:
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MAKECAB /F SP.DDF>>HFSLIP.LOG
although I think it would be more complicated than that.
dziubek
Apr 15 2006, 08:14 AM
QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 15 2006, 03:10 PM)
What exactly is causing dziubek's problems with WU?
Everything is perfect on my end for XP. Just tested yesterday. Microsoft Update does not complain at all.
I test HFSLIP _ 60415d.CMD. If he still not works WU. I will try very exactly to describe mine problem
Thanks for the interest.
Super-Magician
Apr 15 2006, 08:16 AM
dziubek, read my edited post.
dziubek
Apr 15 2006, 11:24 AM
QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 15 2006, 03:16 PM)
dziubek, read my edited post.
I read your post. I would add also different information personally :
for the example
* the capacity of the original installation (source)
* the capacity HFSLIPED of the installation
* the time of the work HFSLIP
* Information about how much the percentage the installation increased or reduced
I probably found the guilty one of my problem with WU.I will write about this by in several hours
dziubek
Tomcat76
Apr 15 2006, 02:43 PM
RC1, folks...
Camarade_Tux
Apr 16 2006, 07:43 AM
Two questions :
1)is UPHClean slipstreamed or post-installed ?
It doesn't install on my computer. I've added an entry in WIHU to run specific softs to see if they can be installed at T-12 so I'll check this in a moment.
2)UpdateAgent2 is slipstreamed, right ?
I saw no installer in SOURCESS. The problem is that nLite doesn't remove it anymore. (I know, this sounds strange to update it and just after to remove it.)
Super-Magician
Apr 16 2006, 07:50 AM
UPHClean is post-installed at T-13 with the rest of the stuff in SVCPACK. You should find UPHClean.MSI in SOURCESS\I386\SVCPACK. Make sure it is there.
Windows Update Agent 2.0 is definitely slipstreamed.
Camarade_Tux
Apr 16 2006, 07:55 AM
I was pretty sure, I have a problem with UPHClean.
It's not the first time I put it in HF and it never got installed, while it has always been in SVCPACK.
Here is HFSLip.cmd from SVCPACK:
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@ECHO OFF
IF EXIST %SYSTEMROOT%\SYSTEM32\CMDOW.EXE cmdow @ /HID
Title HFSLIP
FOR %%i IN (D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z) DO IF EXIST %%i:\I386\SVCPACK SET HFSLIP=%%i:\I386
REM MOVE/Y %SYSTEMROOT%\TEMP\Classic.wmz "%PROGRAMFILES%\Windows Media Player\Skins"
FOR /F %%I IN ('DIR /B %SYSTEMROOT%\*.TMP') DO (
ATTRIB -R %SYSTEMROOT%\%%I
DEL /F /Q %SYSTEMROOT%\%%I
)
SET PREP=%~dp0
CD /D %HFSLIP%
OEUPDATE Q823353
EXIT
I REMmed a line because I removed WMP with nLite.
HFSlip.log :
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?act=At...e=post&id=12184(with my LastSession.ini 'cause it comes from anotherpost)
edit : UPHClean's name is exactly "UPHCLEAN.MSI".
Super-Magician
Apr 16 2006, 07:59 AM
Guess what, Camarade_Tux?
This is probably why UPHClean is not installed: A new version was released on 4/7/2006!
Edit: I'm having another feeling about this. This version and the one I already have are the same file size: 336,896 bytes.
@Tomcat: I noticed you removed KB905915 from your XP update list. According to
the_guy's post earlier, it is only removed for IE 5.01 SP4.
Camarade_Tux
Apr 16 2006, 08:12 AM
You're right :
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...en&Hash=SY534SCbtw, I found something that is imho interesting in its readme.txt:
QUOTE
INSTALLATION
============
To automatically install it (you need uphclean-setup.msi):
- Double click the setup.msi
To manually install it (you need a copy of uphclean.exe):
- Create a directory under Program Files for the service
(e.g. c:\program files\uphclean)
- Copy the program (uphclean.exe) to the directory
(e.g. c:\program files\uphclean\uphclean.exe)
- Open a command prompt on the computer
- Change directory where you copied the program
(e.g cd \program files\uphclean)
- Run the program with the -install switch to install the service and start it
(e.g. uphclean -install)
The service is set to automatically start when the computer boots so you will
not need to start it manually. Below I've listed the events that you will find
in the application log when it takes positive steps to unload profile hives.
However, I don't know how to get uphclean from a .msi file.
(and this will be appended to my previous post)
From readme.txt, removal instructions.
QUOTE
If you manually installed:
- Run the program with the -remove switch to stop the service and remove it
(e.g. uphclean -remove)
- Remove the UPHClean directory under c:\program files
Super-Magician
Apr 16 2006, 08:15 AM
See if you can open UPHClean-Setup.msi using the attached tool.
[attachment removed]
We used to have to put this in HFTOOLS to extract MSI files. I think Tomcat/tommyp has somehow found a way around this (at least for msxml6.msi, I think). It's possible that you still have to put it in HFTOOLS - I hope Tomcat will be able to resolve this issue.
Tomcat76
Apr 16 2006, 08:16 AM
QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 16 2006, 03:59 PM)
According to
the_guy's post earlier, it is only removed for IE 5.01 SP4.
The "IE 5.01SP4 only" part applies to 910620.
905915 = IE5.01 & IE6
910620 = IE5.01
912812 = IE5.01 & IE6
the_guy
Apr 16 2006, 08:16 AM
QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 16 2006, 10:59 AM)
@Tomcat: I noticed you removed KB905915 from your XP update list. According to
the_guy's post earlier, it is only removed for IE 5.01 SP4.
I know I'm not Tomcat, but I kno why (well, almost know). A new IE update was released last week. Tomcat should have 912812 (which I'm sure he has)
the_guy
Super-Magician
Apr 16 2006, 08:19 AM
He has it. Thanks!
Camarade_Tux
Apr 16 2006, 08:20 AM
QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 16 2006, 03:15 PM)
See if you can open UPHClean-Setup.msi using the attached tool.
Click to view attachmentWe used to have to put this in HFTOOLS to extract MSI files. I think Tomcat/tommyp has somehow found a way around this (at least for msxml6.msi, I think). It's possible that you still have to put it in HFTOOLS - I hope Tomcat will come and resolve this issue.
It did not work, it produces no interesting file.
Tomcat76
Apr 16 2006, 08:24 AM
@Camarade_Tux
There's no need to REM out that line if you're using that old version of HFSLIP because that line doesn't work anyway. You'll have to REM out the line in a newer version, though, as it works *now*.
Alternatively, delete CLASSIC.WM_ from the SOURCE folder. HFSLIP only adds that line if the file exists. In fact, since you're removing WMP with nLite I suggest you remove CLASSIC.WM_ as it's being copied into the Windows folder through TXTSETUP.SIF. I don't think nLite prevents that from happening.
Super-Magician
Apr 16 2006, 08:24 AM
That's odd. I see the file it produces. Oh, well.
Tomcat76
Apr 16 2006, 08:34 AM
QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 16 2006, 04:19 PM)
Tomcat - see if you can help with Camarade_Tux's problem.
What problem? You said there's a newer version...
QUOTE (the_guy @ Apr 16 2006, 04:16 PM)
I know I'm not Tomcat, but I kno why (well, almost know). A new IE update was released last week. Tomcat should have 912812 (which I'm sure he has)
Now that I got you here...
If you only take OS updates into account, the FrontPage Server Extensions update only applies to Windows 2003. For Windows 2000 and Windows XP it only applies to components that don't come stock with these OS's (it's an Office XP update there).
Super-Magician
Apr 16 2006, 08:35 AM
Ignore that for now. Two questions:
(1) Do you still need MSICabExtract.exe in HFTOOLS for any MSI files?
(2) Is there actually a new version of UPHClean and will redownloading it solve Camarade_Tux's issue with it not installing?
Tomcat76
Apr 16 2006, 08:46 AM
QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 16 2006, 04:35 PM)
(1) Do you still need MSICabExtract.exe in HFTOOLS for any MSI files?
(2) Is there actually a new version of UPHClean and will redownloading it solve Camarade_Tux's issue with it not installing?
1) I don't know. I don't use any updates that require it. It used to be needed for msxml.msi and msxml6.msi but HFSLIP now extracts them through an admin install. Maybe TommyP knows more.
2) I don't know. You said there's a newer version, no?
@Camarade_Tux: Can you open SVCPACK.INF in the SOURCESS folder and check the line that installs UPHCLEAN.MSI?
Edit....
Aha!
I see you got this line in HFSLIP.CMD: OEUPDATE Q823353
That indicates you're using Windows 2000. UPHClean cannot be installed at T-13 on Windows 2000, hence the reason it's not on my 2K update list.
Super-Magician
Apr 16 2006, 08:48 AM
Ummm...Camarade_Tux's log file (HFSLIP.LOG) indicates that he is installing XP SP1.
I did say there is a newer version of UPHClean, but that's according to the file release date on the download page...Microsoft's website is not always accurate in regard with that. When I take a look at the filesizes of the older file I have and the one I downloaded today, they are the same.
Camarade_Tux
Apr 16 2006, 08:52 AM
nLite probably removed classic.wm_ since no classic.*** is present in SOURCESS (except classic.th_)
My new UPHClean and my old one have the same md5 so the new one is not newer than the old one.
With the tool on this page,
http://www.msfn.org/board/lofiversion/index.php/t62418.htmlI extracted the files contained inside the msi file.
There's an au3 file in the package and I found this :
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case $arctype == "msi"
runwait('msiexec.exe /a "' & $file & '" /qb /log c:\uniextract.txt TARGETDIR="' & $outdir & '"', $filedir)
Tomcat76
Apr 16 2006, 08:52 AM
I haven't tried it on XPSP1 yet. Maybe it suffers the same problem there. Try with a silent installer. My old
MultiCompiler tool can make one.
Camarade_Tux
Apr 16 2006, 08:56 AM
It seems you posted 1 nanosecond after me.
Also, I md5'ed the newly downloaded UPHClean.msi (updated on April) and it has the same md5 as my old one.
And I'm running XP SP1a.
and on this page,
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/MS04-018.mspxit is stated
QUOTE
Affected Software:
.....
Microsoft Windows XP and Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 1
Super-Magician
Apr 16 2006, 08:58 AM
Three quick suggestions for HFSLIP (nothing to do with the above).
1. Change
CODE
IF EXIST HFSPACK\* CALL :HFSPACK1
to
CODE
IF EXIST HFSPACK\*.exe CALL :HFSPACK1
so HFSLIP does not run through that portion of the script if there is nothing in HFSPACK.
2. The "I have read..." section is missing the lines
CODE
IF EXIST HFTOOLS\MKISOFS.EXE CALL :MAKEISO & pause & exit
IF EXIST HFTOOLS\CDIMAGE.EXE IF NOT EXIST HFTOOLS\MKISOFS.EXE SET CDIMG=1&CALL :MAKEISO & pause & exit
when you type in MAKEISO at the prompt. Without these lines, typing in MAKEISO will create the ISO with MKISOFS automatically.
3. The very top portion of the script under REM FOR HFTOOLS FOLDER is not current.
Tomcat76
Apr 16 2006, 09:05 AM
@Camarade_Tux...
MS06-016 (KB911567) replaces MS04-018 (KB823353) as stated in the FAQ section on the MS06-16 page.
@Super-Magician...
1) We'll do.
2) I know that. I'll ask TommyP.
3) There's no place!
Camarade_Tux
Apr 16 2006, 09:14 AM
QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 16 2006, 03:46 PM)
@Camarade_Tux: Can you open SVCPACK.INF in the SOURCESS folder and check the line that installs UPHCLEAN.MSI?
(I hate IE, just lost my post)
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[SetupHotfixesToRun]
HFSLIP.CMD
UPHClean.MSI /q
After removing a 2.06GB wmi.log file (yes, GB!), I was able to uninstall and then reinstall UPHClean with the /q switch which worked and eventvwr is happy.
(and then people wonder why they should have small system partitions, imagine a 320GB wmi.log file.
)
BTW, would you advise me to remove those lines as I use nLite to patch my sfc_os.dll and then removes cat files by hand ?
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[ProductCatalogsToInstall]
d3dx9_24_x86.CAT
d3dx9_25_x86.CAT
d3dx9_26_x86.CAT
d3dx9_27_x86.CAT
...
Tomcat, I'll check my update files, some are very old. Thanks.
Tomcat76
Apr 16 2006, 09:31 AM
@Super-Magician... All done. Check 60416-rc2.
@Camarade_Tux... Just treat them the same way you're treating the other CAT files.
Super-Magician
Apr 16 2006, 09:36 AM
Thanks, Tomcat!
When I referred to the section below REM FOR HFTOOLS FOLDER, I was talking about
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REM FOR HFTOOLS FOLDER
REM IF YOU WANT TO MAKE AN ISO - CDIMAGE.EXE
REM IF YOU WANT TO MAKE AN ISO - BOOT.IMG
REM IF YOU HAVE MSI HOTFIXES - MSICABEXTRACT.EXE
REM IF YOU HAVE HFEXPERT - MODIFYPE.EXE
Just a technical issue - since you never see it
.
By the way, I like your Multi Compiler tool, even though it's no longer updated.
Tomcat76
Apr 16 2006, 09:40 AM
QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 16 2006, 05:36 PM)
Just a technical issue - since you never see it
.
Right. I always scroll down immediately.
Super-Magician
Apr 16 2006, 10:08 AM
I see you were ready to release something yesterday
!
[old link]
Tomcat76
Apr 16 2006, 10:21 AM
That was a test version for TommyP.
Super-Magician
Apr 16 2006, 12:11 PM
So you turned off the directory listing?
Camarade_Tux
Apr 16 2006, 12:18 PM
I'm pretty upset since I just lost my post because of a crash (my half-dead-HD as always).
After 40 minutes : does MBSA2 skip checking file versions if registry keys are not present ?
What follows is a partially unuseful:In my latest test with Dx 9.0c Feb06 slipstreamed, MBSA complains about KB904706. It says it is not installed.
This updates is old : Dec05. I'd thought it would be included in DX Feb06.
I tried to install it and then it refused telling me this update was intended for Dx8. However on the download page, it is said it concerns "XP SP2" which comes with Dx9. So what ?
Here it the log:
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0.109: ================================================================================
0.109: 2006/04/16 19:32:01.906 (local)
0.109: d:\2ff4afa03ba790f56e0084917ae44855\update\update.exe (version 6.2.29.0)
0.109: Hotfix started with following command line:
0.141: FileVersion of C:\WIN\System32\quartz.dll is Greater or Equal To 6.4.2600.1106
0.141: FileVersion of C:\WIN\System32\quartz.dll is Greater or Equal To 6.4.2600.1739
0.141: Second Condition in Test.FileVer.Section Failed
0.141: Condition Check for Line 1 of PreRequisite returned FALSE
0.141: Le programme d'installation du KB904706 a rencontré une erreur : Cette mise à jour du logiciel ne s'applique qu'à DirectX 8. Si vous voyez ce message, cela signifie que DirectX 8 n'est pas installé et que vous ne pouvez pas installer cette mise à jour du logiciel.
0.156: Cette mise à jour du logiciel ne s'applique qu'à DirectX 8. Si vous voyez ce message, cela signifie que DirectX 8 n'est pas installé et que vous ne pouvez pas installer cette mise à jour du logiciel.
1.766: Message displayed to the user: Cette mise à jour du logiciel ne s'applique qu'à DirectX 8. Si vous voyez ce message, cela signifie que DirectX 8 n'est pas installé et que vous ne pouvez pas installer cette mise à jour du logiciel.
1.766: User Input: OK
1.766: Update.exe extended error code = 0xf0f4
1.766: Update.exe return code was masked to 0x643 for MSI custom action compliance.
I looked into d:\2ff4afa03ba790f56e0084917ae44855 and it seems this update only modifies quartz.dll.
Does it mean MBSA2 doesn't care of Dx9.0cFeb06 ?
In fact, I'm up-to-date but it's only MBSA that complains.
I'll make an HFNetChk report as soon as my VM is available again.
/me is tired and bored of these MS updates.
Tomcat76
Apr 16 2006, 12:27 PM
DX9.0c hasn't been updated since its release so the hotfix still applies. You only get updated SDK stuff and some additional binaries of which HFSLIP only supports the d3dx9 ones.
Camarade_Tux
Apr 16 2006, 03:19 PM
The hotfix log says
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0.141: FileVersion of C:\WIN\System32\quartz.dll is Greater or Equal To 6.4.2600.1106
0.141: FileVersion of C:\WIN\System32\quartz.dll is Greater or Equal To 6.4.2600.1739
I checked the one in dxnt.cab : version 6.5.1.902 which is also the version of the one present on my system.
These bi-monthly releases also contain security fixes.
Tomcat76
Apr 16 2006, 03:57 PM
The hotfix contains version 6.5.1.907.
Wait a minute...
Setup says "the hotfix is intended for DX8" and you say the hotfix has version 6.4. That can only mean you're using the wrong hotfix.
WindowsXP-KB904706-v2-x86-ENU.exe is for DX9 on XPSP2 and DX8 on XPSP1
WindowsXP-KB904706-DX9-x86-ENU.exe is for DX9 on XPSP1
You need the second file.
Camarade_Tux
Apr 17 2006, 12:58 AM
Ok, it seems you got it.
I used you "Windows XP updates" page to download the hotfix.
http://users.telenet.be/tc76/winup/_winxp.htmlOn this page, I selected updates for SP1 and then, clicked on the link to KB904706 downloadpage :
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&displaylang=enThere, it is said this hotfix is for XP SP1.
...
Ok, I just needed a bunch of hotfix and did not check the "slipstream Dx9 box". If it is checked, the link points to the good update. Arghh, your page is too good for me.
Thanks.
the_guy
Apr 18 2006, 04:17 AM
QUOTE (Camarade_Tux @ Apr 15 2006, 06:40 AM)
Then could you please host it somewhere for the poor people that can't use WU ?
(nLite, blabla, removed, blabla, is able to restore BITS and AutoUpdate service but seems something else missing, blabla, wil dig into, blabla :flowers: )
Here ya go:
904942 from WU. Direct download from Windows Update.
the_guy
Camarade_Tux
Apr 18 2006, 04:58 AM
Won't work if I change ENU by FRA. :snif:
Thanks anyway. :/
dziubek
Apr 18 2006, 11:08 AM
I used HFSLIP_60417-rc3.CMD
I did not use HFAAO and did not remove *.CAT
In phaze T-13 I have the errors :
"While loading C:\ WINDOWS \ SYSTEM32 \ INETCOMM.DLL stepped out the error. The file can be not installed or damaged".
It is also similarly from :
c:\ THE PROGRAMS FILES \ OUTLOOK EXPRESS \ MSOE.DLL
dziubek
edit
Have I to rename WindowsXP-KB904942-v2-x86-PLK inside HF?
Tomcat76
Apr 18 2006, 03:31 PM
[Edited]
Remove the Cumulative MSOE update for XPSP1. You only need the one for SP2. There are a couple of other hotfixes there that are for SP1.
zartrix
Apr 18 2006, 06:22 PM
I used the test version called HFSLIP_60412c.CMD with WINDOWS XP SP2 and all the updates works fine.
Except for the WindowsXP-KB904942-v2-x86-ESN.exe (Spanish language).
The files that this update contains are these:
_sfx_.dll
_sfx_0000._p
_sfx_0001._p
_sfx_0002._p
_sfx_0003._p
_sfx_0004._p
_sfx_0005._p
_sfx_0006._p
_sfx_0007._p
_sfx_0008._p
_sfx_0009._p
_sfx_0010._p
_sfx_0011._p
_sfx_0012._p
_sfx_manifest_
Update/update.ver
This update doens´t seams to work. It´s the problem fixed in the new release (The HFSLIP_60417-rc3.7z)???
All the others updates works fine with the Spanish Version of Windows XP SP2.
Thanks in advance.
Zartrix
Tomcat76
Apr 18 2006, 07:37 PM
The latest version of KB904942-v2 (yes, there's a second version of the second version) is only obtainable from Windows Update or the Windows Update Catalog site. Either download it yourself from
the Windows Update Catalog site or use the direct download link in the following thread:
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=72590I just added the Spanish file.
dziubek
Apr 19 2006, 10:52 AM
QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 18 2006, 10:31 PM)
[Edited]
Remove the Cumulative MSOE update for XPSP1. You only need the one for SP2. There are a couple of other hotfixes there that are for SP1.
I used Your list of hotfixes and I cleaned unnecessary hotfixes in HF. Problems don't step out now. Thanks.
dziubek
EDIT:
I again have the problem with framedyn.dll
caused by some ADDONS surely.
Programmes from HFAAO were not installed.. I will execute additional tests and write about my observations.
Tomcat76
Apr 19 2006, 10:56 AM
QUOTE (dziubek @ Apr 15 2006, 07:24 PM)
I probably found the guilty one of my problem with WU.I will write about this by in several hours
You found it?
dziubek
Apr 19 2006, 11:16 AM
QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 19 2006, 05:56 PM)
QUOTE (dziubek @ Apr 15 2006, 07:24 PM)
I probably found the guilty one of my problem with WU.I will write about this by in several hours
You found it?
The problem with registering components caused damaged SFC > DLL. I apologize this was my fault .
Tomcat76
Apr 19 2006, 12:17 PM
If you have problems with Addons I need your txtsetup.sif as well.
So your problem with Windows Update is fixed?
Tomcat76
Apr 19 2006, 04:46 PM
dziubek...
The "Microsoft Windows Publisher" thing is the Windows Update Agent. If you still get this problem, it means WUA20 doesn't slipstream (properly) into a Polish Windows XP. In that case, download the attached file into the HFSLIP folder and run it (SOURCESS folder must be present). Then ZIP the following files and attach it here:
- WUfiles.txt (generated by the attached file)
- AU.IN_ from SOURCE\I386
- AU.IN_ from SOURCESS\I386
- HFSLIPWU.INF from SOURCESS\I386
getWU.cmd outputs a list of the WUA20 files in the SOURCESS\I386 folder including the creation date.
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