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dziubek

Apr 19 2006, 04:58 PM

QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 19 2006, 07:17 PM)

If you have problems with Addons I need your txtsetup.sif as well.

So your problem with Windows Update is fixed?

WU does not work in the order to the end, because it updated files after starting. Was the new version accessible?

"Take the newest software of the extension WINDOWS UPDATE"

I send my txtsetup.sif in the attachment.

Tomcat76

Apr 19 2006, 05:23 PM

You need to remove the addon that contains "AEncoder.cab". Where did you download it from?

dziubek

Apr 19 2006, 09:14 PM

QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 20 2006, 12:23 AM)

You need to remove the addon that contains "AEncoder.cab". Where did you download it from?

I downloaded from here:

http://ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=23237#23237
The update went out today:
"
Silent update to 1.0b
-Changed one line in Entries_AudioEncoders.ini.
"

I also updated several different addons.I will write about the effect by in several hours.

dziubek

dziubek

Apr 19 2006, 11:25 PM

I had problem with %maininf% in the textmode:
"Copying the file % maininf % it was not possible"

I again have the problem with framedyn.dll and srclient.dll.
Programmes from HFAAO were not installed...

dziubek

Kiki Burgh

Apr 19 2006, 11:56 PM

hi guys!

pardon for getting off the topic ... but i recall having read here somewhere about some RyanVM remove components (addons) that i could use in HFSLIP to remove some windows components ...

i'd appreciate too if someone can give me tips to remove the ff via HFSCLEANUP way of course:
(1) MSN Explorer
(2) Tour
(3) MSN Messenger
(4) non-Eng languages
(5) non-Eng keyboards

thanks much!

Axed

Apr 20 2006, 01:01 AM

QUOTE (dziubek @ Apr 20 2006, 03:25 PM)

I had problem with %maininf% in the textmode:
"Copying the file % maininf % it was not possible"

By the look of it, the problem is with one of your addons. Find your Sysoc.inf file (sysoc.in_ compressed in your i386 dir) and check that, see if there are any weird errors in it also. "Slipstreams" such as these you have used arent a very good way to install a program because unless they are written perfectly, one single broken one will stop every single one of them from installing.

Have you tried all these updates in another program such as nLite to make sure its not just a HFSlip problem? What it looks like to me is one of those addon makers didnt specify the %maininf% properly in his entries_whatever.ini. I suppose you could extract all the cab files and search for %maininf% in them to see which ones use it, then check them for errors by hand. Even then, there are obviously more errors in the secondary inf files that are called in your sysoc file since its not installing any of them.

tommyp

Apr 20 2006, 03:52 AM

Kiki - There are instructions for HFCLEANUP are here, click on the HFEXPERT link. You are on your own with XP, if you use all of the reducers, your installation may not work. There wasn't any want or need for reducing XP, so I decided not to create reducers for it. BTW, you could always NLITE the sourcess folder to remove things too.

Super-Magician

Apr 20 2006, 08:03 AM

Kiki: I believe you were referring to Windows Messenger, not MSN Messenger. There is a difference. MSN Messenger is not installed by Windows Setup.

To prevent Windows Messenger from being installed, you can add an entry to the [Components] section of WINNT.SIF

CODE

[Components]
msmsgs=off

or you can create the following script and place it in HFSVCPACK.

CODE

@ECHO OFF
IF EXIST %SYSTEMROOT%\SYSTEM32\CMDOW.EXE cmdow @ /HID
CLS
SETLOCAL ENABLEEXTENSIONS ENABLEDELAYEDEXPANSION
TITLE Windows Messenger Removal Script
ECHO.
ECHO Removing Windows Messenger...
START /WAIT RunDll32 %windir%\system32\advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\inf\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove
ECHO.
ECHO Windows Messenger successfully removed!
GOTO EOF

:EOF

Tomcat76

Apr 20 2006, 08:44 AM

QUOTE (dziubek @ Apr 20 2006, 07:25 AM)

I had problem with %maininf% in the textmode:
"Copying the file % maininf % it was not possible"

Yes. That's because of that odyn1982_AudioUtilities_Addon_v1.0.cab addon.

Concerning your Windows Update problem...
I noticed that wuaucpl.cpl is being updated 13 minutes after the Windows Update files are integrated into the new source by HFSLIP. I suppose XPize is doing that as I can't imagine anything else running 13 minutes after new binaries are integrated.

Do you still have the WindowsUpdate.log file from a test installation of Windows? It is located inside C:\WINDOWS. Don't confuse it with "Windows Update.log":
WindowsUpdate.log = Windows Update
Windows Update.log = Windows Update Catalog
I need the first.

dziubek

Apr 20 2006, 09:57 AM

QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 20 2006, 04:44 PM)

QUOTE (dziubek @ Apr 20 2006, 07:25 AM)

I had problem with %maininf% in the textmode:
"Copying the file % maininf % it was not possible"

Yes. That's because of that odyn1982_AudioUtilities_Addon_v1.0.cab addon.

Would I write email to the author Addon but I do not know what to write so that he improves him ?

Tomcat76

Apr 20 2006, 10:28 AM

The problem is not with the addon but with HFSLIP. Anyway, try the latest test release and include the addon. I fixed the problem and it seems that the odyn1982_AudioUtilities_Addon_v1.0.cab addon is handled properly now.

Is that the WindowsUpdate.log file from an installation that asks you to install the Windows Update Agent?

dziubek

Apr 20 2006, 10:46 AM

QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 20 2006, 06:28 PM)

YES

Tomcat76

Apr 20 2006, 04:52 PM

Strange. It should normally display a list of the files involved including their version numbers. Are you using Windows Update or Microsoft Update?

dziubek

Apr 20 2006, 09:11 PM

QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 21 2006, 12:52 AM)

Strange. It should normally display a list of the files involved including their version numbers. Are you using Windows Update or Microsoft Update?

Strange. I used HFSLIP _ 60420a.CMD and this file look differently.So as you wrote above.
I did not have any problems with the installation .

On first glance:
all ADDONS were installed, even Boooggy _ ASPI _ Addon.cab

I added 3 files:
1. WindowsUpdate1. log - after first logging in without starting WU
2. WindowsUpdate2.log - after first logging in and starting WU
3 WindowsUpdate3.log - next starting WU after the change LegitCheckControl.DLL

dziubek

Tomcat76

Apr 20 2006, 10:08 PM

Windows Update is tripping over winhttp.dll. It is looking for it in the WINDOWS\system32 folder but it isn't there. Why?

Try putting your modified version of winhttp.dll into HFEXPERT\WIN\system32\ instead. Hopefully that helps. It needs to be version 5.1.2600.1366 or higher.

dziubek

Apr 21 2006, 01:08 PM

QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 21 2006, 05:08 AM)

I put Winhttp.dll(ver. 5.1.2600.2180) from mine installed at present Windows to \HFEXPERT\WIN\system32
and all works correctly. I don't have problem with WU any more :-)

I added files:
1. WindowsUpdate1. log - after first logging in without starting WU
2. WindowsUpdate2.log - after first logging in and starting WU

dziubek

Tomcat76

Apr 21 2006, 02:09 PM

If everything is working correctly you don't need to attach any files...

Super-Magician

Apr 21 2006, 02:44 PM

Is our final just about due yet? I'd like to see it by 6 pm EDT (I believe 11 PM your time) if possible as I'm going to be elsewhere after that.

Don't rush though

dziubek

Apr 22 2006, 11:26 AM

QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 21 2006, 09:09 PM)

If everything is working correctly you don't need to attach any files...

Fuss caused Winhttp.dll from WU (in the very old version) in HFSLIP\HFEXPERT\WIN . Will suffice him remove or put on the newer version . I apologize for fuss

.

Do you plan to extend HFSLIP.LOG in the the closest time?

dziubek

Tomcat76

Apr 22 2006, 11:36 AM

Extend with what? Background music? Ewa Demarczyk?

Camarade_Tux

Apr 22 2006, 11:41 AM

Hi, I've just made a new iso.
1- UPHClean is correctly installed with latest (beta) version.
2- it seems some hotfixes did not get installed.
I attached some debugging infos.
Quick summary: XP SP1a, french, patched using HFSlip
-hfnetchk -f output
-mbsa scan
-list of files in SOURCESS\I386 in dir.txt (because I use nLite so some files could have been removed)
-hfslip.log (all critical updates and nearly all optionnal updates for XP SP1a mentionned in Tomcat's list)
-nLite's lastsession.ini
-one of the "missing" update was not present in HF but others were present
-I removed three hotfixes that aren't needed anymore.

Thanks for your help.

dziubek

Apr 22 2006, 12:04 PM

QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 22 2006, 06:36 PM)

Extend with what? Background music? Ewa Demarczyk?

I thank for music, I am not interested

I thought about addition of such information:
*the time of the work HFSLIP
*the capacity of the catalogue Sourcess and SOURCE ( how much the percentage increased or reduced the installation)
This are loose the proposal. It depends only from You It will be introduced(added)

dziubek

Super-Magician

Apr 22 2006, 12:08 PM

Camarade_Tux:

Did you run Windows Update on the installed system? Please report which hotfixes WU says aren't installed. Also, can you try installing without running nLite?

dziubek:

With DOS, it is not possible to calculate the time it took for HFSLIP to run with DOS, nor is it possible to calculate the percentage of increase/decrease for two folders.

dziubek

Apr 22 2006, 12:10 PM

QUOTE (Super-Magician @ Apr 22 2006, 07:08 PM)

It is not possible to calculate the time it took for HFSLIP to run with DOS. It is also not possible to calculate the percentage of increase/decrease with DOS.

I did not know , I thank for the explanation .
dziubek

Tomcat76

Apr 22 2006, 12:40 PM

@Camarade_Tux

KB912812 and KB911567 did not install because you removed the word "Windows" from their name.

The problem with KB911562 is a strange one. MBSA says that the version of dbnetlib.dll is less than expected, but that file is not part of the KB911562 package at all! I think it has to do with the two updates above but I'm not sure.

Please use the new final, HFSLIP_60422.

Tomcat76

Apr 22 2006, 12:52 PM

Just an FYI...

There was a problem with the last two test releases. The fix to properly interpret lowercase CD tag files when checking for the SP level didn't work. It's corrected in the new final.

Does that answer your question, Super-Magician?

Super-Magician

Apr 22 2006, 01:02 PM

Thanks for letting me know, Tomcat, and thanks for my adding my name to the Thanks list!

JW, what did I do to deserve this recognition?

(minor edit, nothing added/deleted)

wela

Apr 22 2006, 03:37 PM

I´m sad about that what i have to do, but I must report that the newest testrelease has a syntax error in Mdac_type line. A fresh builded Install CD: at the point Registering the Components comes the infoscreen that there is a syntax error in mdac setup. After finishing the installation i found mdac not installed.
So i´ve had a look to the line in hf_60422d and found a "1" after the switch "QN" at the end of the line.
I removed it and at time i build a new install source.

Edit: It wasn´t the "1" alone. I´ve found a MS-Article explaining the Syntax for Mdac and Dasetup. I´l try this.

Tomcat76

Apr 22 2006, 04:26 PM

"dasetup" is what I had before but it didn't work. What you see now is what worked for me.

Edit: Here's an MS article explaining the meaning of QN1 (and QNT).

Tomcat76

Apr 22 2006, 04:58 PM

Wela... Change the install string in SVCPACK.INF to this (including all quotes):

"MDAC_TYP.EXE /q /C:""setup /QN1"""

Hopefully that helps...

wela

Apr 22 2006, 05:12 PM

Hi
Thx for reply. I´ve found this http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben...842193&x=9&y=11
and tried the German translation. It doesn´t work.
I go your way at afternoon.

Camarade_Tux

Apr 23 2006, 05:36 AM

A quick note:
HFNetChk reports

CODE

Patch NOT Installed     MS06-013     Q912812
    File C:\WIN\system32\mshtml.dll has a file version [6.0.2800.1543]
    that is less than what is expected [6.0.2800.1544].

But according to http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/MS06-013.mspx , latest is 6.0.2800.1543, not 1544.

Then, it seems I lack reg keys for 833987. Could someone send me "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Updates\Windows XP\SP2\KB833987\Type" ? (just to see if it is the *only* missing thing)

MBSA and HFNetChk both reports 914798 is missing. Does anybody knows which files get update ?
I've been able to find :

QUOTE

Four of the six services identified (NetBT, SCardSvr, DHCP, DnsCache) require an attacker to already be running in a privileged security context. Additionally, the two services, SSDPSRV and UPNPHost, which allow an authenticated user to attack a vulnerable system are only vulnerable on Windows XP Service Pack 1

With nLite I removed UPnP so the error may come from this.
But HFNetChk also reports the missing reg key thing. ( SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Updates\Windows XP\SP2\KB914798\Type )

Following updates are only reported by MBSA, not HFNetChk

I checked and 908531 contains an update for "Desktop Cleanup". I remove this component with nLite.

900725 has an update for a file I remove (fldrclnr.dll)

840374 updates Help Center : removed with nLite.

841873 updates Task Scheduler : removed with nLite.

841873 updates Messenger service : removed with nLite.
(imo Messenger service is only useful at school when working on computers

)

MBSA also reports MDAC update, normal, I don't add it.
And last, it reports a WMP update and I removed WMP.

Thanks a lot for your help.

NB: I used nLite cause it takes 5 minutes and then installation is much faster.
If I have enough time, I'll try without it this afternoon.

the_guy

Apr 23 2006, 05:51 AM

@Camerade_Tux: the mshtml.dll build 1544 is the QFE version, not the GDR version.

the_guy

Tomcat76

Apr 23 2006, 06:05 AM

Most likely HFSLIP then needs to use the QFE versions of the files in KB912812 for XPSP1. I'll update this later.

the_guy

Apr 23 2006, 06:33 AM

An idea for ya Tomcat:

For the IE6 SP1 update for XPSP1 and 2000 SP4(same download), and all updates for XPSP2 and 2003, why not make HFSLIP integrate the QFE version of the file. It might make it easier for ya, and might let users integrate unofficial updates (that they get themselves).

the_guy

Tomcat76

Apr 23 2006, 07:44 AM

I already did this for the KB912812 update (XPSP1 only). If neither Windows Update, Microsoft Update, MBSA nor HfNetChk complain I'll consider doing it for all updates, but would it also benefit upgrade installs?

Camarade_Tux

Apr 23 2006, 08:29 AM

I don't understand, "I already did this". Does it mean yesterday's build uses QFE version or does it mean you are about to release one that will ?

I'll build a new iso in a few minutes. That time, I won't use nLite (except for tweaks though, I can't stand webview, especially when running 640x480).
I'll report what each of them say.

Tomcat76

Apr 23 2006, 08:58 AM

It's to be released. I wanna do one last test with MDAC_TYP and then I'll put it in the wild.

Camarade_Tux

Apr 23 2006, 09:08 AM

Could you quickly tell me what to change in HFSlip's code ?
I won't be able to make new tests before a while.

Tomcat76

Apr 23 2006, 09:15 AM

It's released

Camarade_Tux

Apr 23 2006, 09:16 AM

Thanks a lot.
(in fact, I only have a few minutes to complete my tests, that's why I'm in a hurry)

Camarade_Tux

Apr 23 2006, 09:49 AM

Textmode install says "impossible to copy MDAC_TYP.msi".
I have a mdac_typ.ex_ in I386 which is not corrupted.
btw imo mdac_typ shouldn't be compressed, it only saves 40Ko and it's long to expand.

the_guy

Apr 23 2006, 09:50 AM

@Tomcat

The XPSP1 912812 fix, is that also for 2000 sp4 with IE6? It's just that 2000sp4+IE6 uses the exact same file as XPSP1.

You don't need to do this for 2000sp4+IE5.01sp4

the_guy

Camarade_Tux

Apr 23 2006, 09:56 AM

With UPHClean and MDAC_TYP in HF, at first logon, I get a cmd window and another one which looks like msiexec /? (but that could be bad syntax, maybe because of missing mdac_typ.msi)
Note I don't have MsiCabExtract in TOOLS.

edit : you're killing me, it's possible to stand WMP, but not the bliss wallpaper.

Camarade_Tux

Apr 23 2006, 10:13 AM

CODE

* WINDOWS XP SP1

    Warning
    The latest service pack for this product is not installed.
    Currently SP1 is installed.  The latest service pack is SP2.

    Warning             MS03-008     Q814078
    File C:\WIN\system32\jscript.dll has a file version [5.6.0.8825]
    that is greater than what is expected [5.6.0.8513].

    Patch NOT Installed     MS04-028     Q833987
    The registry key **SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Updates\Windows
    XP\SP2\KB833987\Type**  does not exist.  It is required for this
    patch to be considered installed.

    Patch NOT Installed     MS06-011     Q914798
    The registry key **SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Updates\Windows
    XP\SP2\KB914798\Type**  does not exist.  It is required for this
    patch to be considered installed.

    * INTERNET EXPLORER 6 SP1

    Patch NOT Installed     MS04-028     Q833989
    File C:\Programs\Fichiers communs\Microsoft Shared\VGX\vgx.dll has a
    file version [6.0.2800.1106] that is less than what is expected
    [6.0.2800.1411].

    Warning             MS05-044     Q905495
    File C:\WIN\system32\msieftp.dll has a file version [6.0.2800.1724]
    that is greater than what is expected [5.50.4956.500].

    * WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER FOR WINDOWS XP SP1

    Patch NOT Installed     MS06-005     Q911565
    File C:\WIN\system32\wmpui.dll has a file version [8.0.0.4487] that
    is less than what is expected [8.0.0.4495].

    * MDAC 2.7 SP1

    Patch NOT Installed     MS06-014     Q911562
    File C:\WIN\system32\dbnetlib.dll has a file version
    [2000.81.9030.2] that is less than what is expected
    [2000.81.9053.0].

I solved my problem with KB833987 and KB914798. I just had to create a REG_SZ key named "Type" and which value is "Update".

On this page, http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/MS06-005.mspx you can read that the updated file for "WMP for XP SP1" (i.e. WMP 8) is wmpui.dll but with more recent versions of WMP, the file is called wmp.dll. It's just a supposition.

edit: what WU (or rather microsoft update) says, probably not so important.

CODE

Mise à jour de sécurité pour Windows XP (KB908531)
Taille habituelle du téléchargement : 795 Ko , 1 minute

Outil de suppression de logiciels malveillants Windows - Avril 2006 (KB890830)
Taille du téléchargement : 1.7 Mo , inférieur à 1 minute

Mise à jour de sécurité pour Windows XP (KB914798)
Taille du téléchargement : 482 Ko , inférieur à 1 minute

Mise à jour de sécurité pour le Lecteur Windows Media 8 pour Windows XP (KB911565)
Taille du téléchargement : 963 Ko , inférieur à 1 minute

Mise à jour de sécurité pour le Lecteur Windows Media 9 (KB911565)
Taille du téléchargement : 2.2 Mo , inférieur à 1 minute

Mise à jour pour Windows XP (KB835409)
Taille habituelle du téléchargement : 152 Ko , inférieur à 1 minute

Mise à jour de sécurité pour Windows XP (KB900725)
Taille habituelle du téléchargement : 1.6 Mo , 2 minutes

Mise à jour de la sécurité pour Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)
Taille du téléchargement : 2 Mo , inférieur à 1 minute

Mise à jour de sécurité pour Windows XP (KB841873)
Taille habituelle du téléchargement : 445 Ko , inférieur à 1 minute

Tomcat76

Apr 23 2006, 10:31 AM

@Camarade_Tux

The MDAC_TYP.msi problem was solved in 60423c.

Would you mind giving me the REG fixes you included?

QUOTE (the_guy @ Apr 23 2006, 05:50 PM)

The XPSP1 912812 fix, is that also for 2000 sp4 with IE6?

I'm only doing it for XPSP1.

QUOTE (Camarade_Tux @ Apr 23 2006, 05:56 PM)

edit : you're killing me, it's possible to stand WMP, but not the bliss wallpaper.

Are you talking about the black DOS boxes?

Camarade_Tux

Apr 23 2006, 10:32 AM

I added this, by hand, after installation.

CODE

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Updates\Windows XP\SP2\KB833987]
"Type"="Update"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Updates\Windows XP\SP2\KB914798]
"Type"="Update"

...testing new release.

QUOTE (Tomcat76 @ Apr 23 2006, 05:31 PM)

QUOTE (Camarade_Tux @ Apr 23 2006, 05:56 PM)

edit : you're killing me, it's possible to stand WMP, but not the bliss wallpaper.

Are you talking about the black DOS boxes?

No, I removed many things with nLite and I didn't that time, and it was a shock to see all those components back. Nevermind.

btw, I'm a command-line warrior : everything with CLI even when it should be done in another way.

murvun

Apr 23 2006, 11:02 AM

Tomcat76: for the cpl and cpi Problem I added my hfslip.log and my txtsetup.sif

I can't add a .log file so it is compressed...

Thanx for looking!

Camarade_Tux

Apr 23 2006, 11:19 AM

Using last version, I still have the same "missing" updates with MBSA and HFNetChk. Especially, it complains about MDAC 2.7. A file named MDAC_TYP.pf exists in the Prefetch folder so MDAC_TYP.exe has been launched but I can't say anything else.

edit: remember I'm using SP1a.

Tomcat76

Apr 23 2006, 11:50 AM

@Camarade_Tux:
When you include MDAC_TYP.EXE, the hotfix won't take. You need to apply it manually after setup finishes. It's the same deal as with WMP10 on XPSP1 (and on XPSP2 when it's in the HFSVCPACK_SW folder).

@murvun:
Thanks. I'll take a look at it.

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