kartel
Jul 20 2006, 12:11 PM
Biohead
Jul 20 2006, 12:32 PM
Wait till you get it talking to Windows Vista!
kartel
Jul 21 2006, 01:53 PM
Please don't talk like that in front of the Xbox 360, He's very sensitive and doesn't want to be reminded of his mother-in-law.
...........oh great!
now 98se is getting into it, thanks alot!
Nerwin
Jul 21 2006, 02:46 PM
Well the Xbox 360 is nothen compared to PS3
kartel
Jul 22 2006, 04:06 AM
PS3 ?
Nerwin
Jul 22 2006, 06:38 AM
Biohead
Jul 22 2006, 07:14 AM
Those specs 6 months ago made the PS3 look good. But now, it frankly looks crap. OK so it can produce better graphics than the 360, but the 360 has 9.6GHz to power everything else whereas the PS3 has the 3.2GHz "Cell". I know which one I'd go for, and so will the modding community.
ripken204
Jul 23 2006, 08:07 PM
the 360 sucks compared to a computer. the graphics especially suck.
Nerwin
Jul 24 2006, 10:07 AM
QUOTE (ripken204 @ Jul 23 2006, 09:07 PM)

the 360 sucks compared to a computer. the graphics especially suck.
You Got That Right
JasonGW
Jul 31 2006, 10:51 AM
QUOTE (computerMan @ Jul 21 2006, 03:46 PM)

Well the Xbox 360 is nothen compared to PS3
HAHAHAHAHA, that's *hilarious*

PS3=Xbox 360+Betamax 2.0

Jason
QUOTE (Biohead @ Jul 22 2006, 08:14 AM)

Those specs 6 months ago made the PS3 look good. But now, it frankly looks crap. OK so it can produce better graphics than the 360, but the 360 has 9.6GHz to power everything else whereas the PS3 has the 3.2GHz "Cell". I know which one I'd go for, and so will the modding community.
PS3 can't produce better graphics, LOL. It's effectively running a Geforce 7600GT. It's on-par with 360, it's not better. And if RSX has inherited the 7xxx family's inability to perform FSAA and HDR rendering simultaneously, you'll see 360 pull ahead, because it *can* do both. In the long haul, though, I expect both systems to remain on par, though 360 is still a better deal. That said, I'm disappointed in both 360 *and* PS3, which both appear to be home to "more of the same, just prettier".
Jason
ripken204
Jul 31 2006, 11:05 AM
wtf, the ps3 only has a 7600gt? my 7800gt will definetly rape it then. i thought that the ps3 was suppose to have amazing graphics? what happened to them?
Scubar
Jul 31 2006, 11:05 AM
PCs p*** all over the consoles, a couple of my friends have 360s and frankly they are a pile of crap, Even they know now that they totally wasted their money buying one.
ripken204
Jul 31 2006, 11:09 AM
well when i got my xbox i was all excited. but a year later when i got the computer that im currently on, i think ive only turned on my xbox 3 times! its completely useless. it takes forever to load stuff and the graphics just suck.
nitroshift
Aug 4 2006, 04:25 AM
QUOTE (ripken204 @ Jul 31 2006, 05:05 PM)

wtf, the ps3 only has a 7600gt? my 7800gt will definetly rape it then. i thought that the ps3 was suppose to have amazing graphics? what happened to them?
What can I say then about my 7950GX2?????
ripken204
Aug 4 2006, 09:00 AM
haha, nice.
stickzilla
Aug 4 2006, 10:21 AM
Consoles aren't made to cater towards having the absolute best graphics available.
Y'all are just finding reasons to complain and be proud of your oh so leet home machines.
For people who don't have gaming PCs (or just prefer to play on their tv), it's a bit of a deal to get a 360, extra controller, and play with a friend in the living room on a game they like, compared to both of them buying gaming PCs.
I enjoy gaming on my PC at times, but it suuuuure is nice playing my 360 on my roommate's 56" HDtv. I'll take it this way.
ripken204
Aug 4 2006, 10:45 AM
ya.. that makes sense. and how much does a 56" hdtv cost? and as for controllers, i have 2 xbox controllers hooked up to my computer right now so me and friends can play games like madden 2006.
stickzilla
Aug 4 2006, 01:33 PM
Tell me how much a 56" monitor would cost, to be comparable ! = P
But yeah, it all comes down to your specific needs and desires. I just find it foolish for one to assume a console is junk , just because their PC already satisfies their personal gaming needs.
ripken204
Aug 4 2006, 02:26 PM
im not assuming, ive tried out the 360 and i just hated it. it may also be b/c the 360 needs an hdtv to look any good, therefore it really costs 1000$+
Shindo_Hikaru
Aug 4 2006, 02:32 PM
Pretty hugh screen, i can make it with my HD Projector, my projector does support 1080i, and 1080p.
ripken204
Aug 4 2006, 02:36 PM
QUOTE (Shindo_Hikaru @ Aug 4 2006, 04:32 PM)

Pretty hugh screen, i can make it with my HD Projector, my projector does support 1080i, and 1080p.
i want to get one of those someday
kartel
Aug 13 2006, 01:05 PM
We are playing
Perfect Dark Zero now and the graphics are killer, he only has a toshiba 35" TV but its still real good, especially when you walk up close to bricks and tiles, almost looks wet and fresh to touch.
I dont know if this is the "best" gamming solution but it's pretty **** good.
We also played
QUAKE 4 and it was real cool, when you go through the conveyer belt and the robots chop you up and you see the guy ahead of you getting torured first, real cool.
We finished Prey, very wierd vagina doors and puckered butcracks everywhere......very strange indeed.
JasonGW
Aug 16 2006, 06:00 PM
QUOTE (kartel @ Aug 13 2006, 02:05 PM)

We are playing
Perfect Dark Zero now and the graphics are killer, he only has a toshiba 35" TV but its still real good, especially when you walk up close to bricks and tiles, almost looks wet and fresh to touch.
I dont know if this is the "best" gamming solution but it's pretty **** good.
We also played
QUAKE 4 and it was real cool, when you go through the conveyer belt and the robots chop you up and you see the guy ahead of you getting torured first, real cool.
We finished Prey, very wierd vagina doors and puckered butcracks everywhere......very strange indeed.
Err, I dunno what copy of Perfect Dark Zero you played, but IMHO it looks like *a*** and worse it *plays* like a**. However, the 360 does have some very good games. I've enjoyed my 360, at least what I got to play of it before it kicked the bucket. At least it died in warranty, the replacement should be back soon, I hope

Jason
dcyphure
Aug 29 2006, 04:27 PM
according to the specs it looks closer to 7800gtx
pc's and consoles opperate very differently and devs can push propriatary hardware easier, pc's cant share and streamline all of its hardware power for one game
for instance, xbox had a geforce 3/pentium 3...my geforce 3 and p4 processor could never push graphics like ninja gaiden or dead or alive 3...not even close, it barely ran the original gta 3 lol
also for me to get oblivion to look and play like the xbox 360 version cost me nearly $2 grand worth of hardware, both have thier own advantages.
i know some like to argue the fact that pc's can do more like surf the web and burn mp3's....but so can a pentium 2 and win95, so regardless cost wise and ease of use is likely why there are more console gamers than pc gamers
ripken204
Aug 29 2006, 05:02 PM
so you're saying that your 2k comp looks the same as ur 360? ive compared my 2k system to a 360 and its not even a comparison. now unless you spend 2k on an htdv.... now i cant comment on an hdtv.
dcyphure
Aug 31 2006, 06:37 AM
QUOTE (ripken204 @ Aug 29 2006, 06:02 PM)

so you're saying that your 2k comp looks the same as ur 360? ive compared my 2k system to a 360 and its not even a comparison. now unless you spend 2k on an htdv.... now i cant comment on an hdtv.
i have 52" hdtv ($900 at circuitcity) but remember you can easily play an xbox 360 on a computer monitor or a pc on a hdtv with a simple converter (mine was $50 but there are instructions on the net to build your own)
so with that in mind theres no excuse to claim that a console would cost more having to buy an hdtv cuase you can play it on your pc monitor easily
ripken204
Aug 31 2006, 10:56 AM
except then you would need a decent lcd monitor, at least 200$. but 95% of ppl would use their xbox on their monitor, they would but it on their family room tv or something.
JasonGW
Sep 6 2006, 05:39 PM
QUOTE (dcyphure @ Aug 29 2006, 05:27 PM)

according to the specs it looks closer to 7800gtx
pc's and consoles opperate very differently and devs can push propriatary hardware easier, pc's cant share and streamline all of its hardware power for one game
for instance, xbox had a geforce 3/pentium 3...my geforce 3 and p4 processor could never push graphics like ninja gaiden or dead or alive 3...not even close, it barely ran the original gta 3 lol
also for me to get oblivion to look and play like the xbox 360 version cost me nearly $2 grand worth of hardware, both have thier own advantages.
i know some like to argue the fact that pc's can do more like surf the web and burn mp3's....but so can a pentium 2 and win95, so regardless cost wise and ease of use is likely why there are more console gamers than pc gamers
RSX you mean? No, then, according to the specs it looks closer to a 7600GT. It has the same crippled 128bit memory bus (7800GTX is 256bit, and you can't underscore the impact of halving the bandwidth), is closer to the same clock speed (originally 550Mhz, recently dropped to 500Mhz, actually 60Mhz *beneath* the 7600GT), etc.
Anyway, point being that PS3--much like Xbox 360--simply *isn't* as powerful as a current high end PC, it's closer to a mid-range system.
Jason
4g4d4u
Sep 9 2006, 01:41 AM
some of the games scheduled to come out with the ps3 look really cool though. i.e. assassins creed, mgs4, splinter cell double agent. where as most of the games ive seen for 360 so far havent really stirred up much interest in me what so ever. but that could just be my opinion and the fact i havent looked into many games being released on the 360 where as i do plan on picking up a ps3 thus search up and coming games for it. but really a consoles only as good as the games that support it, a console with terrible games but great specs probably wont please people as much as a console with poor specs and great fun games. just my .02
JasonGW
Sep 12 2006, 05:06 PM
QUOTE (4g4d4u @ Sep 9 2006, 02:41 AM)

some of the games scheduled to come out with the ps3 look really cool though. i.e. assassins creed, mgs4, splinter cell double agent. where as most of the games ive seen for 360 so far havent really stirred up much interest in me what so ever. but that could just be my opinion and the fact i havent looked into many games being released on the 360 where as i do plan on picking up a ps3 thus search up and coming games for it. but really a consoles only as good as the games that support it, a console with terrible games but great specs probably wont please people as much as a console with poor specs and great fun games. just my .02
The only game you mentioned that isn't already confirmed for 360 is MGS4, of course.
I plan to get a PS3 on launch day--and ebay it to some turd with more money than sense

Jason
dcyphure
Sep 15 2006, 05:34 PM
havnt seen a pc game that looks as good as GT5 or killing zone 2...so as far as it not being as powerful as a high end pc sure couldve fooled me
as it always has been it takes a more powerful pc to match the streamline and sharing that consoles advantage at
xbox for example with its P3 and geforce 3 have much better graphics than my old P3 with geforce 3 ti 500 which was barely able to get 20fps in GTA vice city...in fact try plaing halo 2 at low res with such system...it was unplayable and thats with my pc having the advantage of 512 mb's of ram.
you cant point to hardware specs and assume anything cause they are both very different in how they function to play games
ripken204
Sep 15 2006, 06:15 PM
well what card did you guys say it had? a 7600gt? my 7800gt is definetly better than a 7600gt. can the xbox do 16xAA and 8xAF? how about that plus HDR with an ati card?
Mekrel
Sep 19 2006, 03:28 AM
People are missing the point here, Consoles are not PC's, PC's are not consoles.
The console is now (since last generation anyways) an entertainment system for family. Now, I have an Xbox360 on live and on a Sony Bravia HDTV and with friends on games such as PGR3, DOA and COD2 - it's a barrel of laughs. My PC is very good, but you can't cram two people behind my desk to get a good screen view let alone four like the Xbox360.
They cater for different markets. You don't have to install or manually patch games, meaning it's a get up and play machine who the stupid of stupid can setup and use. Unlike a PC.
Condemned on the PC looked amazing, you can tell it was made by monolith and the graphics were just as good as my PC. Baring in mind my ATi card can do High Quality anisotropic filtering which means it can be applied to sloped surfaces.
Alot of Xbox360 titles are not 4*AA compatible as it was arranged after the development of said games.
The XBOX and other consoles are not a PC replacement, and never will be.
EchoNoise
Sep 19 2006, 04:54 PM
Ugh... Console vs. PC... NEXT
ripken204
Sep 19 2006, 05:05 PM
QUOTE (undeadsoldier @ Sep 19 2006, 06:54 PM)

Ugh... Console vs. PC... NEXT
but technically a console is a pc...
Mekrel
Sep 19 2006, 05:16 PM
QUOTE (ripken204 @ Sep 20 2006, 12:05 AM)

QUOTE (undeadsoldier @ Sep 19 2006, 06:54 PM)

Ugh... Console vs. PC... NEXT
but technically a console is a pc...
nope, it really isn't
It may use a power supply, a GPU, a main board, memory and now hard disks but things like the processors are very different when it comes to architecture.
You can't fire up a MySQL, PHP web server on a console and design a website or make a unattended windows disk.
The Xbox360 is a good console full stop, it wasn't designed for people to compare it to a PC unlike whats happening in this thread.
EchoNoise
Sep 19 2006, 05:37 PM
I heard through the grapevines which heard it through chinese whispers that the 360 is running some form of BSD or Linux to give you the 360 GUI...
I can't wait until the PS3 is released though, haven't had a good laugh in a long time!
ripken204
Sep 19 2006, 06:33 PM
EchoNoise
Sep 19 2006, 09:23 PM
Yup, and they are currently working on one for the 360... Free60.org i think it is
kartel
Mar 26 2007, 03:25 PM
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