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pixturesk
Forget to mention that I have both AutoPatcher + Revolutions Pack 7 on my computer.
Drugwash
Dunno about you guys, but I have a Flash version of 9.0.74 (not from Auto-Patcher) and the Toyota site opens up fine, with no errors, redirections or whatever.

I'm using SlimBrowser 4.10.015 (latest build AFAIK), which is based on IE.

charly
Must be something to do with IE6 (or what ever version it thinks its seeing from the register)!
Have uninstalled flash and reinstalled several times but still it does not work.
Will only take me to adobe site --redirect--??
Charlie
pixturesk
Relax Soporific. I found the uninstaller for RP7. When you click on the RevPack folder in Manual Installs, you then get a the folder "revpack", click on that folder you get an icon saying "7Z - RP7MM", click then extract (it tells you where), there are all the icons for RP7 including "rpuni", plus a much better installer "SetupRP" than the "revpack" installer you see before extracting the "7Z - RP7MM" file. Since my install went perfectly from the "revpack" installer, I will leave well enough alone, not uninstall RP7, then use the "SetupRP" file to re-install (it is a bit too much for me). I hope I am right about all this, hope this helps you out. Ken.
pixturesk
Please forgive me folks. The above note is wrong. The uninstall icon "rpuni.exe I refer to will not uninstall RP7. Soporific is working on the fix for us individually. I have no problem RP7 is working great, just want the uninstall as a precaution. Again, forgive me. Thanks.
RetroOS
QUOTE (charly @ Oct 28 2007, 01:04 PM) *
Must be something to do with IE6 (or what ever version it thinks its seeing from the register)!
Have uninstalled flash and reinstalled several times but still it does not work.
Will only take me to adobe site --redirect--??
Charlie

It does appear to be an IE6 problem.
I've accessed the toyota.com site okay in IE7 in Windows XP.
It also accesses fine in Firefox 2.0.0.8 in Windows 98SE.
All of these running Flash 9.0.47.0.
charly
Okay, it was IE6 problem -- reinstalled browser and that fix the Flash problem. Seems funny that this was the only site with this problem that I could find, it must have been some setting it was looking for in the register that was missing or set wrong? --Charlie
barbarien
I tested the autopatcher (full september) on a new installed win98se and it works not bad but it dosent install following patches:

tool9x , service9x , ttfront ,2 to 4 digit conv. tool updt. ------ loops blushing.gif

so i inst. this after manualy and it works, thumbup.gif

and the software infrarecorder runs not under win 98 --hangs , better you replaced this tool realmad.gif

so the reg patches for the explorer and iexplorer i dont no --
the settings in IE are not set in the registry --- rwin - ttl, sackopts , only the maxconnections are there ?
is it set or not ??
an the tweaks for advanced explorer options are great but in conflict with tweakui settings set it here and there not ?
something is strange dont no what !
and why you add the flashlayer only without shockwaveplayer better together


but is a great work ---go on welcome.gif
soporific
QUOTE (barbarien @ Oct 31 2007, 11:04 AM) *
I tested the autopatcher (full september) on a new installed win98se and it works not bad but it dosent install following patches:

Thanks for all this feedback! and welcome to MSFN!

QUOTE
tool9x , service9x , ttfront ,2 to 4 digit conv. tool updt. ------ loops blushing.gif
So you are saying that you installed each of the 'loops' above manually? Can you run Auto-Patcher again and run a report to see if Auto-Patcher thinks its now installed?

QUOTE
and the software infrarecorder runs not under win 98 --hangs , better you replaced this tool realmad.gif
It works on my version of Windows 98 --- how stable is your system? Does it ever hang or produce a Blue Screen of Death?

QUOTE
so the reg patches for the explorer and iexplorer i dont no --
the settings in IE are not set in the registry --- rwin - ttl, sackopts , only the maxconnections are there ?
is it set or not ??
You'll have to ask MDGx but i think it is, even though you can't see the values in the LOCAL_MACHINE section

QUOTE
an the tweaks for advanced explorer options are great but in conflict with tweakui settings set it here and there not ?
It shouldn't matter but don't use both methods at the same time. Try it out. You should be able to use TweakUI and then have the changes reflected in the Folder Options.

QUOTE
and why you add the flashlayer only without shockwaveplayer better together
Good point, i will investigate adding this to October 2007 Full which is due out soon.
barbarien
I reinstalled the patches that loops the first time (i contact thelogfile the see what loops) and they loops again so i do it by hand
My System is PIII 1 Ghz ,512 Mb Ram , Board Asus Tusl 2-C , BIOS 1012 , AND IT WAS A CLEAN HD ,NEW INSTALLED
I ONLY ADD BEFOR DRIVERS FOR , MONITOR,SOUND,ETHERNET,INTEL DRIVERS 6.30.1007, THATS ALL THEN I TRIED AUTOPATCHER

and i sugest that you add deepburner free 1.8.224 and replace infrarecorder
an other intresting add-on is free commander a very small tool (2.5 Mb) that was perfect for you then replace karens dirprint (this was not installed by autopatcher installation routine ?????) whistling.gif

and replace IE Patches with MDIE6CU Ver. 1.7 newest thumbup.gif

and you should add the patch for Netframework 1.1
and why you add no Netframework 2.0 and Patch

i recommend the registry tweaks for IE/ DSL doing with cablenut or speedguide TCP/IP Optimizer,
i make it by hand

and after all an intresting tweak is mdcupl win98 me style (only 1 Mb)mdgx-- looks very good rolleyes.gif

system.ini tweaks are good -- i tested another entry ---perVMFiles=200 no problem shifty.gif see there

http://www.windows-tweaks.info/html/speich...timierung3.html

maybe a few reg tweaks are useful -----update mode (explorer) , nosplash (outlook ) ,forcefifo ,
boost up your cd rom -----cd-rom smallercache by mdgx ,CDFS --Prefetch,Prefetchtail,Cachesize rolleyes.gif

and i tested the defrag and scandik that you implanted so the defrag hangs completly i dont no whats this only rename old defrag and implant newer from Win Me to C:\Windows
newbie1
[quote name='barbarien' date='Nov 1 2007, 12:20 AM' post='706561']
I reinstalled the patches that loops the first time and they loops again so i do it by hand

I have the same problem at first install of the last autopatcher but on a new install it works fine thumbup.gif
Finally i have found a new version for windows 98se of java on their website it's the J2SE v 1.4.2_16 SDK shifty.gif
That's downloadable from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html thumbup.gif

welcome.gif newbie1
barbarien
i suggest this smart tools to add to boost autopatcher to stardom

add izarc zipper 3.81 ---3.6 Mb --freeware see this functions -- http://www.izarc.org/
add NFO Viewer ---Jane 1.54 --636 Kb

Foxit PDF Reader 2.2 --- 2.2 Mb

add CCleaner 2.01 -- 2.5 Mb

add Avira NTFS4DOS --1.2 Mb

add Flooter 1.1 mini Boot Manager --1.6 Mb very good small size for floppy !!!

add HD Copy 2.104 --125 kb

add Statup Control Panel 2.8 57 kb ----super with tweak ui add Sequoia view 1.3 ---555 kb

add Virtual Clone Drive 5.1.4.5 --1.1 Mb

add Outloud Coolkill (Taskkiller)-- 1 Mb

actmon process monitor 1.00 --- 392 Kb

DLL Master 2006 -- 95 Kb

IE add -on --Fitted width Print --- Print Fitted A4 Sites in IE Explorer 70 Kbv see there
http://www.wintotal-forum.de/index.php/topic,55353.0.html

HideOE 1.1.6 --122 Kb OE to Tray

Fast Stone Image Viewer 3.2 --- 4.1 Mb

RAM2Free 1.05 -- 340 Kb

Free Registry Defrag 2.32 -- 457 Kb

Geo Disk 3.3.4--622Kb

Fat32format 1.03 --22 Kb ---large HD formatting

Partition Logic 0.69 -- 5.1 Mb

Diskeeper Lite 7.0 ----12 Mb fund no other freewaretool for win 98 mad.gif

Scanner 2.8 --165 Kb

Mozilla Firefox 2.0.08 --5.7 Mb

Your Unistaller 2006 --3.75 Mb

Excalibur 1.06 -- 812 Kb -better Calculator

Total Size is 42 MB not so much about 260 MB for the Full Version so when you add all together
with the suggestions above and that i mention befor , you make the 300 Mb for the Full Version a Round Size
and with this addons you put the Windows 98 in a new Renaissance thumbup.gif
joe tweaker
Auto-Patcher's primary function is to fully patch an existing system.
Perhaps a freeware utilities disk could be a separate project?
Milos M.
Soporific,great patch,but can i somehow restore windows boot logo,and can i remove from right click menu - copy to folder,and move to folder.Thanks
soporific
QUOTE (barbarien @ Nov 1 2007, 12:30 PM) *
i suggest this smart tools to add to boost autopatcher to stardom

Total Size is 42 MB not so much about 260 MB for the Full Version so when you add all together
with the suggestions above and that i mention befor , you make the 300 Mb for the Full Version a Round Size
and with this addons you put the Windows 98 in a new Renaissance thumbup.gif
Joe Tweaker is right, Auto-Patcher is primarily for re-installing an OS and the file size is big enough as it is. But thank you for the suggestions i will check them out.

QUOTE (Milos M. @ Nov 1 2007, 05:30 PM) *
Soporific,great patch,but can i somehow restore windows boot logo,and can i remove from right click menu - copy to folder,and move to folder.Thanks

All you need to do is use the undo feature. Run AutoPatcher, choose to select modules, de-select every module except the tweaks, use the More Options flag to see the options for the tweak module, select the 2 tweaks you want to undo, and choose the UNDO option (press U) --- instead of installing the selected tweaks, it uninstalls them. Easy.
barbarien
i now the main function is to autopatch the windows 98 system
but the autopatcher contains 3trd Party Tools so i suggest the essential tools that im thinking about to use whistling.gif
so the producer can chosen what he likes its only a suggestion there are 1000s of tools to integrat but these these small tools ARE VERY USEFUL LIKE TWEAK UI

so i fund other tweaks for Win 98

Big Open Box see there http://www.geocities.com/fredledingo/Bigopenbox.htm

System.ini ----- MinSps=8 , 16 http://www.windows-tweaks.info/html/stackoverflow3.html

Can for Win 98 better scanreg ----http://www.paehl.de/home.htm

Ihr Rechner ist zu langsam? Dann ist hier eine einfache, aber wirksame Methode, mehr aus dem System rauszuholen. Legen Sie eine neue Datei mit dem Namen MAXCACHE.REG an und fügen Sie den Inhalt zwischen den beiden Linien dort ein:
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REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\FS Templates]
@="Max Cache"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\FS Templates\Max Cache]
@="Max Cache"
"NameCache"=hex:00,18,00,00
"PathCache"=hex:80,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\FS Templates\Big Cache]
@="Big Cache"
"NameCache"=hex:80,13,00,00
"PathCache"=hex:68,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\FS Templates\Med Cache]
@="Med Cache"
"NameCache"=hex:20,0f,00,00
"PathCache"=hex:50,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\control\FileSystem]
"NameCache"=hex:00,18,00,00
"PathCache"=hex:80,00,00,00

so you can chosen under controlpanel \ system\ performance \ filesystem what you want

welcome.gif
barbarien
here is my regpatch after autopatcher installation

whistling.gif
Regedit 4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\FDC000]
"ForceFifo"="0"

[Hkey_Current_User\ControlPanel\Desktop]
"HungAppTimeout"="1000"
"WaitToKillAppTimeout"="1000"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ Identities\HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Identities\{C4633A00-8599-11DC-A001-E1DFE960187F}\Software\Microsoft\OutlookExpress\5.0]
"NoSplash"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Update]
"UpdateMode"=hex:00,00,00,00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Applets\Defrag\Settings\DisableScreenSaver]
"Default"="yes"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\CD-ROM]
"Required Pause Tolerance"=hex:e7,13,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\FileSystem\CDFS]
"CacheSize"=dword:0x00000fa0
"Prefetch"=dword:0x00000320
"PrefetchTail"=dword:0x000000c8

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\FileSystem]
"ReadAheadThreshold"=hex:00,00,00,0f

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\FS Templates]
@="Max Cache"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\FS Templates\Super Cache]
@="Super Cache"
"NameCache"=hex:00,ff,00,00
"PathCache"=hex:ff,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\FS Templates\Max Cache]
@="Max Cache"
"NameCache"=hex:00,18,00,00
"PathCache"=hex:c8,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\FS Templates\Huge Cache]
@="Huge Cache"
"NameCache"=hex:80,13,00,00
"PathCache"=hex:90,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\FS Templates\Large Cache]
@="Large Cache"
"NameCache"=hex:a0,0f,00,00
"PathCache"=hex:80,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\FS Templates\Medium Cache]
@="Medium Cache"
"NameCache"=hex:20,0f,00,00
"PathCache"=hex:50,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\control\FileSystem]
"NameCache"=hex:00,18,00,00
"PathCache"=hex:c8,00,00,00


see attachments
so you can decide you want add this to autopatcher or not this tweaks are absolute save and tested

in the matter of the regpatches for IE and Explorer i tested it out
so in IE you can change settings but this have no affect in Registry only ----maxconnections changes
i repatch this with the regfiles from mdgx ----always the same no.gif
i sent an email to mdgx about this something is wrong
have no answer until now
barbarien
SORRY WAS A SCRAPE REGFILE realmad.gif
HERE AGAIN
barbarien
i found this very beautiful tweaks wub.gif

for transparent icons

http://www.windows-tweaks.info/html/transparent3.html

transparent desktop

http://www.windows-tweaks.info/html/transdesk98.html

premium skins see attachment

http://www.windows-tweaks.info/html/designs3.html

nice new IE Explorer looks realy cool yes.gif

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar]
"BackBitmapIE5"=" Path to the BMP" downloa from Site below

http://www.windows-tweaks.info/html/iebackground3.html

Few tricks

Add copy,paste,cut in kontextmenue -recycle bin

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\Shell Folder
"Attributes"=hex:47,01,00,20
http://www.activewin.com/tips/reg/menus_4.shtml

uknown files open with notepad or what you want

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Unknown\Shell\open\command]
"default"="C:\Windows\notepad.exe %1"

defrag in kontextmenu

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ Drive\shell\defrag]
"&defrag"="c:\windows\defrag. exe %1"
joe tweaker
QUOTE (barbarien @ Nov 1 2007, 05:42 AM) *
there are 1000s of tools to integrate

Precisely why a disk of useful tools should be a separate project.

Some people just want a fully patched system without 1000's of extra tools.
Put your tools in separate project, and those who want both, can install both.
No need for the two projects to merge.

Joe
joe tweaker
I'm not certain, but some of the REG files created by MDGX may already be in Auto-Patcher. Soporific would be the one to ask. Cacheman 5.50 has a feature similar to your REG file that creates "LARGE, HUGE, SUPER, and MAX" cache settings. I've played with those a little, but didn't notice a huge difference in my system performance. Other factors, such as memory installed, applications running, how system is used, play a role here, so results may vary.

Joe
pixturesk
You're right joe tweaker. Not being of the computer generation, a non techie, I just want a fully patched Win98SE OS, with everything current, not left in the July 2006 state. That's why I feel much better with AutoPatcher installed. I use many of these other tools but at my choice.
submix8c
QUOTE (joe tweaker @ Nov 1 2007, 03:34 PM) *
QUOTE (barbarien @ Nov 1 2007, 05:42 AM) *
there are 1000s of tools to integrate
Precisely why a disk of useful tools should be a separate project.
Go here -
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...105936&st=0
It is being bandied about to make this an installation project. The topic has been "stickified"; right now it is basically a list of the last-that-works-on-Win98SE software... newwink.gif The song says "ya gotta keep 'em separated"... A full collection of this type of stuff (utilizing perhaps WPI for selective installs) would be a handy tools/add-on disk for the techie-types that have to repair old PC's... but make post suggestions over there in that topic instead...

(edit for clarification as to "where to work on / suggest optionals"; UBCD already includes WPI for many optionals...)

@soporific - Have noticed a lot of threads/posts regarding "questionable unofficial patches". A lot of work to installation procedures, but a suggestion - segregate official from unofficial. You don't want unofficial? Install all MS patches and be quiet! you want unoffical and more? Pick and choose and also be quiet! Might make this project more appealing to any nay-sayers. Your call... (p.s. newer NUSB available)
briton
QUOTE (joe tweaker @ Nov 1 2007, 03:34 PM) *
QUOTE (barbarien @ Nov 1 2007, 05:42 AM) *
there are 1000s of tools to integrate

Precisely why a disk of useful tools should be a separate project.

Some people just want a fully patched system without 1000's of extra tools.
Put your tools in separate project, and those who want both, can install both.
No need for the two projects to merge.

1. I want to update my Win98SE system not upgrade it or install extra software.

2. I want to upgrade my Win98SE system with some useful but workable features of the operating system (or the things which Microsoft considered should be provided with the operating system).

3. I want to install utilities to make my Win98SE experience more fun, more efficient etc etc.

IMHO, soporific does an excellent job fulfilling "1" (which is soporific's primary aim I believe) and adding such things to fulfill "2" as are available (such as the MDGX WinMe upgrades). Isn't that enough work, soporific! biggrin.gif

As far as "3", if anyone lists their "essential tools and utilities", every single one of us can list ours and you will be AMAZED at the vast array of "essential" software! For my money, when I build my Win98SE bootable CD, I include my own choice of utilities (many in DOS), the operating system, an up to date Antivirus program and the means of accessing something (local disk, network disk, internet etc) which allows me to get the other things I want (Shockwave, Flash Player etc). Go ahead with the separate project but please leave soporific the limited requirements which he meets so well! For my money, the separate project has been done elsewhere with all the BootCDs around (I never use them as I tend to build a new version of my own BootCD every now and then or stick it on a memory stick either of which takes very little time but I understand why some people prefer preformed BootCDs with someone else's idea of what is "essential".)
joe tweaker
QUOTE (submix8c @ Nov 2 2007, 09:04 AM) *
Go here - Last Versions of Software for 98SE. The topic has been "stickified"; right now it is basically a list of the last-that-works-on-Win98SE software... A full collection of this type of stuff (utilizing perhaps WPI for selective installs) would be a handy tools/add-on disk for the techie-types that have to repair old PC's... but please post suggestions over there, in that topic...

QUOTE (briton @ Nov 2 2007, 09:40 AM) *
Every single one of us can list our "essential tools and utilities" and you will be AMAZED at the vast array of "essential" software!

I for one would love to learn what apps and utilities others use every day, and consider the "top dog" in each software category. But I totally agree with Submix8c, that Galah's topic "Last Versions for 98SE" is a better place for that discussion. See you there.
soporific
QUOTE (submix8c @ Nov 3 2007, 12:04 AM) *
@soporific - Have noticed a lot of threads/posts regarding "questionable unofficial patches". A lot of work to installation procedures, but a suggestion - segregate official from unofficial. You don't want unofficial? Install all MS patches and be quiet! you want unoffical and more? Pick and choose and also be quiet! Might make this project more appealing to any nay-sayers. Your call... (p.s. newer NUSB available)

You're right, it is something that would be good to implement, and it is a "little" bit of work but a good suggestion nonetheless. Let me mull it over (literally).

QUOTE (briton @ Nov 3 2007, 12:40 AM) *
IMHO, soporific does an excellent job fulfilling "1" (which is soporific's primary aim I believe) and adding such things to fulfill "2" as are available (such as the MDGX WinMe upgrades). Isn't that enough work, soporific! biggrin.gif

Briton has it basically right ... the emphasis is on the updates as opposed to bells and whistles, but the precise formula i use when deciding whether or not to include a 3rd party app is this:

1) the app MUST provide functionality for everyday tasks that is missing from the native OS. eg, InfraRecorder was included to add CD burning capability to the OS. Karen's Directory Printer was included to add more ways of manipulating folders and lists of files.

2) Size matters and so very small apps may get in even if they don't exactly satisfy the first point, and big size apps may NOT get it even though it may be very useful to include it. I haven't got an example of this but it shouldn't be too hard to understand where i'm coming from.

QUOTE (joe tweaker @ Nov 3 2007, 02:15 PM) *
I for one would love to learn what apps and utilities others use every day, and consider the "top dog" in each software category. But I totally agree with Submix8c, that Galah's topic "Last Versions for 98SE" is a better place for that discussion. See you there.
I agree!

LATEST NEWS: i have a working copy of the FULL October release of AP but i'm doing more tests than usual, especially in conjunction with Revolutions Pack. There was a bad update in either the August or September release of AP which stuffs up the RP installation. So, this is now a priority, i won't release until it plays well with Tihiy's baby. Hopefully coming soon.
Milos M.
Its working like a charm.Keep the good work thumbup.gif

P.S.I just have one problem unsure.gif ,with system.ini creator,can you send me system.ini extreme for 512 MB Ram.

Cheers
RetroOS
Hi soporific, nice to hear October AP is rolling in!
I think you're right to do some extra testing this time round since including RP7 is a notable change in AP.

Have you considered re-including .NET Framework 2.0 - or more to the point, found a reliable slient install method?
I've had it installed since it was released by MS and have installed the updates 922481 (MS06-033 917283) and 922770 (MS06-056).
Currently I cannot get .NET 2.0 update 928365 (MS07-040 931212) to install though...

AP would be complete with .NET 2.0... whistling.gif

BTW, I assume that your .NET FW 1.1 includes Service Pack 1 867460 (885055)?
What about post 1.1 SP1 updates 925168 and 928366 (MS07-040 931212)?
I have these two Post 1.1 SP1 updates installed.
soporific
QUOTE (submix8c @ Nov 3 2007, 01:04 AM) *
@soporific - Have noticed a lot of threads/posts regarding "questionable unofficial patches". A lot of work to installation procedures, but a suggestion - segregate official from unofficial. You don't want unofficial? Install all MS patches and be quiet! you want unoffical and more? Pick and choose and also be quiet! Might make this project more appealing to any nay-sayers. Your call... (p.s. newer NUSB available)

Hey Submix8c me mate, yeah I could go that way, but that would be giving too much credit to Microsoft for what they have given us to play with. Which is hardly anything. All the main crucial updates to the OS come from the unofficial updates and so the official/unofficial categories aren't relevant for the purposes of auto-patcher. Anything i'm not certain about becomes optional or goes into the manual installs folder. And now that we've had that episode with those MSXML updates i'm being much more careful before releasing, both with testing and also with 'beta' releases. And don't forget that MDGx is the main source for my updates and he gets it right 99.9999% of the time so we're in pretty safe hands. Most complaints are usually about my bugs blushing.gif if anything. But thanks for this suggestion, it was worthy of a reply.

QUOTE (RetroOS @ Nov 4 2007, 03:54 PM) *
Have you considered re-including .NET Framework 2.0 - or more to the point, found a reliable slient install method?
I've had it installed since it was released by MS and have installed the updates 922481 (MS06-033 917283) and 922770 (MS06-056).
Currently I cannot get .NET 2.0 update 928365 (MS07-040 931212) to install though...

I originally had it included but took it out in a fit after it started acting up on me. But that was my fault, not .Net 2.0s fault. I'm starting to seriously think about modifying the structure to be able to release 2 versions, the essentials and then the extras pack. Like the now defunct official autopatcher was starting to do. It will mean coding a new system but its getting to the point that i need to bite the bullet and get to work. I've got to get my other projects finished though. We'll see...

NEWS: the new auto-patcher will be out when its ready, sorry i can't be more precise! I will post a change_log list soon, and i am investigating all issues people have reported. Please keep hassling me if i haven't responded for a bit, sorry, i have my fingers in too many pies to keep everyone happy. I'm very naughty like that ...
soporific
Nov 10:
The October 2007 FULL release is now available from here:
October 2007 FULL - 264 MB - MD5: D8E724A439750AFFC48440B0B1DA54EB
- this release will not fix the problems people were experiencing with the last release, i will include any fixes i come up with in the next UPGRADE release.
- the upgrade pack will be out soonish. It's going to be big due to DirectX 9.0c August 2007

change log for October 2007:
new: kb939653 - Unofficial Cumulative Update for Internet Explorer 6 sp1
new: kb938977 - Unofficial 2007 Updates to Time Zone Daylight Saving Time Settings
update: RichEd9x - Unofficial Rich Text Controls Update (Oct 07)
update: DX_Media - Unofficial DirectX Media Update for IE 6 sp1 (Oct 07)
update: RootsUpd - Root Certificate Update October 2007 (14.0.2195.0)
update: DirectX9 - DirectX 9.0c (August 2007)
removed: kb937143 - Unofficial Cumulative Update for Internet Explorer 6 sp1
removed: kb933360 - Unofficial 2007 Updates to Time Zone Daylight Saving Time Settings
new file: Q891711, Shell98, OleUp, kb918547 (reason: fixes to issues to do with installing)
updated: Revolutions Pack 7.11 -- with a better installer as well
updated: KernelEx 0.32a (manual installs folder)

Thanks as usual to MDGx for being the main source for Auto-Patcher content changes! thumbup.gif
pixturesk
Sop. As you know I have the AutoPatcher August 2007 full + the September 2007 upgrade. Is it necessary to now install the October 2007 full AutoPatcher over the August 2007 full or shall I just wait for the October 2007 update, then install it over the September 2007 update? Must I always install both? Thanks, Ken.
soporific
QUOTE (pixturesk @ Nov 11 2007, 10:04 AM) *
Sop. As you know I have the AutoPatcher August 2007 full + the September 2007 upgrade. Is it necessary to now install the October 2007 full AutoPatcher over the August 2007 full or shall I just wait for the October 2007 update, then install it over the September 2007 update? Must I always install both? Thanks, Ken.

That's a good question ... Theoretically, you only need to download a FULL release once, and from then on you can simply download the updates and install them over what you already have on your machine. The only problem with this is that files that are subsequently deleted from the FULL releases will still be in your project folder. But apart from this, there is nothing wrong with wanting to avoid downloading 250 MB each and every time! So my advice is to wait for the October UPGRADE release.
AbyssHunted
October release looks nice, though I'm waiting for the upgrade version.

BTW, soporific, I noticed you don't have the newest NUSB in the changelist. Are you waiting for the next release, did you forget it, or did you intentionally leave it out?
soporific
QUOTE (AbyssHunted @ Nov 11 2007, 04:15 PM) *
October release looks nice, though I'm waiting for the upgrade version.

BTW, soporific, I noticed you don't have the newest NUSB in the changelist. Are you waiting for the next release, did you forget it, or did you intentionally leave it out?


you missed "did you not know about the new NUSB" from your list of options, because that's the one that i would have chosen blushing.gif -- i will check it out pronto, thanks for the heads up.
pixturesk
Sop. This time, while waiting for your reply, I got AutoPatcher October 2007 full. So this occasion ONLY, shall I install AP Oct/07 over what I have on my computer, then wait for + install the October 2007 update, Then from that point on, as you suggest, only install the updates over what I have on my computer. Thanks, Ken.
RetroOS
soporific, what did you do to get the DirectX August 2007 install working?
I assume that you at least added the two missing 9x Cabs from December 2006 release.

I found that the DirectX updates released since 2006 (with the two Cabs added) do not seem to install additional Managed DirectX (.NET) files...
The same install on XP will copy quite a number of files that do not appear to copy on 9x...

My question is whether there is any gain to 9x by installing post-2006 DirectX updates?

If there is, then the November DirectX update is now available.
soporific
QUOTE (RetroOS @ Nov 12 2007, 09:12 AM) *
soporific, what did you do to get the DirectX August 2007 install working?
I assume that you at least added the two missing 9x Cabs from December 2006 release.

I found that the DirectX updates released since 2006 (with the two Cabs added) do not seem to install additional Managed DirectX (.NET) files...
The same install on XP will copy quite a number of files that do not appear to copy on 9x...

My question is whether there is any gain to 9x by installing post-2006 DirectX updates?

If there is, then the November DirectX update is now available.

* Yeah, the base install files for DX aren't in the official August 2007, we needed to nick them from December 2006.
* If you have Dec 2006 installed, and you don't have a really modern video card, and you don't have .Net framework installed, then there is absolutely no point installing Aug 2007. Not a single thing is changed on your system, in fact i had to write a special registry key in order to tell Auto-patcher that it was installed after running the installation. So in answer to your question, there's no real need to install it or benefit for your OS.
* If you do have .Net Framework installed, then there will be some modifications to the OS. Whether this is going to help or not -- your guess is probably better than mine.
Bankis
I have installed AP 2007 October FULL edition and then I try to launch Auto Patcher, dos window closes after the first message (launching Auto Patcher for Windows 98se). And nothing else happens

The same result is when trying to launch start_debug.bat: after press any key message nothing happens, log isn't created :-/

While examining bat file, I have found line: FIND/I - shouldn't it be FIND /I ? with space?
Also, does DOS support channel symbol as *nix (VER | FIND/I "dos 7.10")?

manual launch autopach.bat c:\temp\ap Y resulted in warning, that environment space is set to low (1456 vs needed 7168), used environment space 1288 vs 2056
soporific
QUOTE (Bankis @ Nov 14 2007, 07:31 AM) *
I have installed AP 2007 October FULL edition and then I try to launch Auto Patcher, dos window closes after the first message (launching Auto Patcher for Windows 98se). And nothing else happens

The same result is when trying to launch start_debug.bat: after press any key message nothing happens, log isn't created :-/

While examining bat file, I have found line: FIND/I - shouldn't it be FIND /I ? with space?
Also, does DOS support channel symbol as *nix (VER | FIND/I "dos 7.10")?

Someone else is reporting problems starting the October release --- do me a favour, if you have a previous FULl release, can you uninstall the October one, install the older one, and see if the behaviour is the same?

Also, you could try installing the Environment Space fix which is in the \files\hotfixes folder, and its called "UpConfig.exe" -- just run the file - you will need to reboot afterwards

to answer your questions:

* the syntax of FIND doesn't require a space, it will work without one. But be my guest and temporarily change the file by adding the space, and see if it makes a difference.
* i'm not sure what you mean by "does DOS support channel symbol as *nix" etc ...
RetroOS
QUOTE (Bankis @ Nov 14 2007, 09:31 AM) *
...
Also, does DOS support channel symbol as *nix (VER | FIND/I "dos 7.10")?
...

Bankis, to answer your question: yes.
Many DOS commands and piping concepts are similar to Unix/Linux.

For Windows 98SE, you would use:
CODE
ver|find "4.10.2222""

The errorlevel return code is 0 for a match.
For example:
CODE
ver|find "4.10.2222"
if errorlevel 1 goto not_98se

[98SE stuff here]
goto finish

:not_98se
[Some message e.g. You need Windows 98SE to run this!]

:finish
Bankis
soporific, I have tried August version - problem remains - window closes without further actions
Guess, that something wrong with the new window/shell creation

my COMSPEC is set to c:\command.com, WINDIR - c:\win
newbie1
@ soporific
Hi i see that in the last autopatcher (october) some hotfix is also in the post "Obsolete and superseded hotfixes and updates".
The hotfixes in october with the same name are newest versions or i can bypass during installation?
Newbie1 welcome.gif

This is the list:

q313829
kb891711
kb925454
kb913296
USBmte
kb888113
kb837009
scr56en
q326728
q293818
q272137
q260067
q241084
q238453
soporific
QUOTE (newbie1 @ Nov 20 2007, 06:29 AM) *
@ soporific
Hi i see that in the last autopatcher (october) some hotfix is also in the post "Obsolete and superseded hotfixes and updates".
The hotfixes in october with the same name are newest versions or i can bypass during installation?
Newbie1 welcome.gif

This is the list:

q313829
kb891711
kb925454
kb913296
USBmte
kb888113
kb837009
scr56en
q326728
q293818
q272137
q260067
q241084
q238453


Yes, you can by-pass any superseded hotfixes ... the reason most of them are still there is due to the combinations of updates that are possible. Some people may choose not to install all the modules, and this means some superseded updates then become 'un-superseded'. Having said that, there are probably some i can take out now. I will try to get rid of all the unneeded ones before the next release. The complete list of hotfixes and updates that i maintain is the best list to use. I always update it before updating Auto-Patcher --- well that's the plan anyway. November 2007 UPGRADE is still coming ... one of these days rolleyes.gif
Evazquezm
Maybe i'm so stubborn... I'm spanishspoken and i need a spanish version because a english AutoPatcher98 over a Win98SE spanish instalation results in a ugly mix of spanish and english...

Of course, I know there are not all the files in spanish version, but at least the "more frequently visibles"...

I'm not really expert, but I got the AutoPatcher98 (november update), got some hotfixes in spanish, the IE6SP1 instalation in spanish, the Media Player 9 instalation in spanish and replace the files in AutoPatcher98...

Is an still running experiment i'm installing it right now in two test PCs and i still don't know how good or bad functions It was a very succesfull experiment, almost all visible element is in spanish (except by the net icon), but i get got many annoying messages about replacing QFECHECK in spanish with english version...
Click to view attachment

I know the reason is the hotfixes I don't found in spanish and there are still in english... Until this moment, looks like all the language version problem are about qfecheck, and due is used only for hotfixes instalation and is not used in day-to-day work, i don't mind have the qfecheck in english.

I think in simply accept qfecheck in english, but i'm almost sure that spanish and english hotfixes are in a mess, so anyway I should accept diferent qfecheck replacements... and anyway that's not the spirit but make it invisible (if possible).

I found some info about hotfix.exe and update.exe, but I cant find a switch that avoid this messages... anybody (0h! wise people) have an idea how avoid this messages?

If this could be resolve, then finally I will get an almost-fully-spanish functional.
Dave-H
soporific, I'm getting exactly the same problem as Bankis.
The October full release installs OK but won't load, exactly as he describes.
The DOS window, both in normal and verbose mode, just disappears, with no error messages.
sad.gif

I've tried running the August full release again, which I had already run and used successfully a couple of months ago, but it won't run now either! Exactly the same result.

It obviously isn't a problem with your program, something has changed, at least on my system (as the August release did work), which is now preventing the batch files from executing.

I have tried the Environment Space fix which you suggested, and it did what it said on the tin, but makes no difference to the problem.

I am intrigued by its adding of "REM -- please leave this REM line here" to autoexec.bat.
What does that do exactly?

Great program BTW, I was very impressed indeed with the August release when I did manage to run it!
smile.gif
bizzybody
QUOTE
- the upgrade pack will be out soonish. It's going to be big due to DirectX 9.0c August 2007


How about a version of the upgrade without that? I already have the redistributable version of the August 2007 DirectX 9.0c release.
Eck
The point is to not need to download updates yourself. Sometimes official updates need tweaking as their 98SE compatibility is either ignored or intentionally removed. Once an update reaches Auto-Patcher, these problems have been fixed so they will install and work on 98SE smoothly.

So, yes it is fine for you to install the latest Direct X 9.0c yourself (as long as the last full version for 98SE, the December one, has already been installed), but since it includes some nice additions it is a good addition to the Auto-Patcher. Of course, installing it yourself assumes it is okay for 98SE but I think the Direct X one is fine as long as the older one was installed first.

I'm waiting, personally, for the upgrade edition now as I already have the last update edition that updated the previous full release installed and would prefer to get the fixes announced to be included in the upgrade edition without, hopefully, the problems some have experienced with running the latest full edition.
RetroOS
Hi soporific, how's November installment looking?

Sun Java 5 Update 14 is out.
I have a suggestion.
I've been using Java 6 Update 3 for a while now with no apparent problems and actually faster and more stable browsing...
How about including both Java 5 Update 14 and Java 6 Update 3 (perhaps with a note about unsupported?) so either can be installed for those who want to use Java 6?
Just an idea.

On another side, your menu still says DirectX December 2006 instead of August 2007...
Will you include DirectX November 2007 in your November pack?

No new issues to report after installing October release.
Old issue: paint update back-dating some filters...

Now, what would we do without Auto-Patcher? biggrin.gif

EDIT: Just noticed that Maximus Decim Native USB ver.3.3 is released!
briton
QUOTE (RetroOS @ Nov 30 2007, 05:27 AM) *
Now, what would we do without Auto-Patcher? biggrin.gif

Whine a lot about how long and complicated everything is rolleyes.gif
soporific
QUOTE (RetroOS @ Nov 30 2007, 08:27 PM) *
Hi soporific, how's November installment looking?

Now, what would we do without Auto-Patcher? biggrin.gif

Hi everyone,

I've been away for a bit working on another project that's now finished, and so its back to Win98 stuff. I'll get a new version of Auto-Patcher together first, then try another release of UBCD.

Stay tuned ...

Please get your suggestions in about what to include. I've already taken notice of all the ones recently.

Sop.
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