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Sberla

Nov 20 2006, 01:51 PM

i have an ASUS Nvidia 7600GT and i want to use it whit win98SE

in the asus site they aren't the drivers for win98SE, it's possible to create some patch?

If someone can help me, let me know...

Kelsenellenelvian

Nov 20 2006, 01:55 PM

http://www.guru3d.com/

Petr

Nov 20 2006, 05:43 PM

As you may see at http://www.nvidia.com/object/81.98_9x_supported.html Nvidia does not have any Win9x drivers for 7xxx and 8xxx series.

Petr

Kelsenellenelvian

Nov 20 2006, 05:52 PM

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1284

they did 2!

Eck

Nov 20 2006, 06:02 PM

I don't know what would happen, but I remember that the Gigabyte Ge-Force 6600GT I have came with drivers that by the NVidia ReadMe's did not support the card! And for the longest time (haven't been there for a while) the Gigabyte website kept offering the older driver from the 7000 series that, according to NVidia, did not support the 6000 series of chipsets.

Perhaps you could try installing the latest 81.98 NVidia drivers for 9x and see what happens? The setup file might just install everything but some features of the card would not be activated, like fancy 3D gaming effects since the drivers wouldn't know how to turn them on in the later cards.

Even if setup tells you your card isn't supported you could then try manually updating using Device Manager to the drivers in the extracted NVidia folder that contains the inf's for 9x.

You never know until you try.

Just be sure your motherboard chipset AGP Gart driver is installed and operating properly first, and that Direct X 9.0c is installed before you start installing the NVidia drivers. Internet Explorer updated to 6 SP1 also helps newer installers work correctly. Windows Installer 2.0 helps too. I just want to make sure it's the NVidia driver that can't be installed and not an installer glitch caused by not having those things installed first.

Petr

Nov 20 2006, 07:12 PM

QUOTE (Kelsenellenelvian @ Nov 21 2006, 12:52 AM)

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1284

they did 2!

This is standard Nvidia WHQL 81.98 Win9x driver downloaded from nvidia.com, please read the list of supported types above - there is no 7xxx type.

Or you can read the Release Notes: http://download.nvidia.com/Windows/81.98/8...lease_Notes.pdf

Petr

QUOTE (Eck @ Nov 21 2006, 01:02 AM)

I remember that the Gigabyte Ge-Force 6600GT I have came with drivers that by the NVidia ReadMe's did not support the card!

Accoring to the Release Notes 6600GT (AGP) is oficially supported by Nvidia.

Petr

MDGx

Nov 21 2006, 03:01 PM

QUOTE (Kelsenellenelvian @ Nov 20 2006, 05:52 PM)

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1284

they did 2!

Nope, they don't.

The last NVidia driver for 9x OSes is 81.98 [WHQL certified].
81.98 supports only 6xxxx GeForce series, as you can see from this fragment extracted from the NVAGP.INF file, which contains vendor strings for all supported NVidia GPUs:

QUOTE

[Strings]
NVIDIA&DEV_0110.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400"
NVIDIA&DEV_0111.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200"
NVIDIA&DEV_0113.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro2 MXR/EX"
NVIDIA&DEV_01A0.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce2 Integrated GPU"
NVIDIA&DEV_0170.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 460"
NVIDIA&DEV_0171.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440"
NVIDIA&DEV_0172.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420"
NVIDIA&DEV_0173.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440-SE"
NVIDIA&DEV_0178.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGL"
NVIDIA&DEV_017A.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro NVS"
NVIDIA&DEV_0181.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X"
NVIDIA&DEV_0182.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8X"
NVIDIA&DEV_0185.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000"
NVIDIA&DEV_0188.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro4 580 XGL"
NVIDIA&DEV_018A.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro NVS with AGP8X"
NVIDIA&DEV_018B.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro4 380 XGL"
NVIDIA&DEV_01F0.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU"
NVIDIA&DEV_0200.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce3"
NVIDIA&DEV_0201.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200"
NVIDIA&DEV_0202.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 500"
NVIDIA&DEV_0203.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro DCC"
NVIDIA&DEV_0250.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600"
NVIDIA&DEV_0251.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400"
NVIDIA&DEV_0253.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200"
NVIDIA&DEV_0258.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro4 900 XGL"
NVIDIA&DEV_0259.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro4 750 XGL"
NVIDIA&DEV_025B.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro4 700 XGL"
NVIDIA&DEV_0280.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800"
NVIDIA&DEV_0281.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X"
NVIDIA&DEV_0282.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE"
NVIDIA&DEV_0288.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro4 980 XGL"
NVIDIA&DEV_0289.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro4 780 XGL"
NVIDIA&DEV_0301.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800 Ultra"
NVIDIA&DEV_0302.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800"
NVIDIA&DEV_0308.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro FX 2000"
NVIDIA&DEV_0309.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro FX 1000"
NVIDIA&DEV_0311.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 Ultra"
NVIDIA&DEV_0312.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600"
NVIDIA&DEV_0314.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600XT"
NVIDIA&DEV_0321.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra"
NVIDIA&DEV_0322.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200"
NVIDIA&DEV_0323.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200LE"
NVIDIA&DEV_0326.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500"
NVIDIA&DEV_0327.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5100"
NVIDIA&DEV_032A.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro NVS 55/280 PCI"
NVIDIA&DEV_032B.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro FX 500/FX 600"
NVIDIA&DEV_0330.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 Ultra"
NVIDIA&DEV_0331.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900"
NVIDIA&DEV_0332.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900XT"
NVIDIA&DEV_0333.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5950 Ultra"
NVIDIA&DEV_0334.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900ZT"
NVIDIA&DEV_0338.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro FX 3000"
NVIDIA&DEV_033F.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro FX 700"
NVIDIA&DEV_0341.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra"
NVIDIA&DEV_0342.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700"
NVIDIA&DEV_0343.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700LE"
NVIDIA&DEV_0344.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700VE"
NVIDIA&DEV_034E.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro FX 1100"
NVIDIA&DEV_0040.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra"
NVIDIA&DEV_0041.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6800"
NVIDIA&DEV_0042.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE"
NVIDIA&DEV_0043.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XE"
NVIDIA&DEV_0045.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT"
NVIDIA&DEV_0048.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XT"
NVIDIA&DEV_004E.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro FX 4000"
NVIDIA&DEV_0221.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6200"
NVIDIA&DEV_0211.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6800"
NVIDIA&DEV_0212.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE"
NVIDIA&DEV_0215.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT"
NVIDIA&DEV_00F1.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT"
NVIDIA&DEV_00F2.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6600"
NVIDIA&DEV_00F3.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6200"
NVIDIA&DEV_00F4.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE"

HTH

LLXX

Nov 21 2006, 07:59 PM

Try putting your 7600GT's device ID in there and installing it... unless they did a huge redesign of their hardware (unlikely, as I see at least two years of nVidia GPUs there) it should at least work.

Well, you do have 640x480 4-bit colors if nothing else works

MDGx

Nov 23 2006, 04:43 AM

QUOTE (LLXX @ Nov 21 2006, 07:59 PM)

Good idea.
Unfortunately I don't have access to a GeForce 7xxx or 8xxx series [yet], so I can't test this.

But if any1 is able + willing to do this, these are the lines that need to be added to NVAGP.INF under respective sections [listed below between square brackets]:

QUOTE

[Mfg]
%NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0090.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0090
%NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0091.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0091
%NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0092.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0092
%NVIDIA_G70.DEV_009D.1%=nv4_WSApps_NV3x_DOEB,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_009D
%NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0290.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0290
%NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0291.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0291
%NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0292.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0292
%NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0293.1%=nv4_MB_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0293
%NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0294.1%=nv4_MB_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0294
%NVIDIA_G71.DEV_029C.1%=nv4_WSApps_NV3x_DOEB,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_029C
%NVIDIA_G71.DEV_029D.1%=nv4_WSApps_NV3x_DOEB,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_029D
%NVIDIA_G71.DEV_029E.1%=nv4_WSApps_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_029E
%NVIDIA_G71.DEV_029F.1%=nv4_WSApps_NV3x_DOEB,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_029F
%NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01D1.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01D1
%NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01D3.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01D3
%NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01DE.1%=nv4_WSApps_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01DE
%NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01DD.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01DD
%NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01DF.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_01DF
%NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0391.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0391
%NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0392.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0392
%NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0393.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0393
%NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0394.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0394
%NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0395.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0395
%NVIDIA_G73.DEV_039E.1%=nv4_WSApps_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_039E
%NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0211.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0211
%NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0212.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0212
%NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0215.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0215
%NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0218.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0218
%NVIDIA_C51.DEV_0240.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0240
%NVIDIA_C51.DEV_0241.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0241
%NVIDIA_C51.DEV_0242.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0242
%NVIDIA_C51.DEV_0245.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0245
%NVIDIA_C61.DEV_03D0.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03D0
%NVIDIA_C61.DEV_03D1.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03D1
%NVIDIA_C61.DEV_03D2.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03D2
%NVIDIA_C61.DEV_03D5.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03D5
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F1.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00F1
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F2.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00F2
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F3.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00F3
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F4.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00F4
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F5.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00F5
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F6.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00F6
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F8.1%=nv4_WSApps_NV3x_DOEB,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00F8
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F9.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00F9
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00FA.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00FA
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00FB.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00FB
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00FC.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00FC
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00FD.1%=nv4_WSApps_NV3x_DualView,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00FD
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00FE.1%=nv4_WSApps_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00FE
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_02E0.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_02E0
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_02E1.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_02E1
%NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_02E2.1%=nv4_NV3x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_02E2
%NVIDIA_Win2KDualView%=nvDual,DISPLAY\nvWin2kDualView
%NVIDIA_MultiView%=nvDual,DISPLAY\nvMultiView
%NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0191.1%=g8x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0191
%NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0193.1%=g8x,PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193
%NVIDIA_Win2KDualView%=nvDual,DISPLAY\nvWin2kDualView
%NVIDIA_MultiView%=nvDual,DISPLAY\nvMultiView

[Strings]
NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0090.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX"
NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0091.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX "
NVIDIA_G70.DEV_0092.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT"
NVIDIA_G70.DEV_009D.1="NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500"
NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0290.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTX"
NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0291.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT/GTO"
NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0292.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS"
NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0293.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2"
NVIDIA_G71.DEV_0294.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2 "
NVIDIA_G71.DEV_029C.1="NVIDIA Quadro FX 5500"
NVIDIA_G71.DEV_029D.1="NVIDIA Quadro FX 3500"
NVIDIA_G71.DEV_029E.1="NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500"
NVIDIA_G71.DEV_029F.1="NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 X2"
NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01D1.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE"
NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01D3.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7300 SE"
NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01DD.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7500 LE"
NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01DE.1="NVIDIA Quadro FX 350"
NVIDIA_G72.DEV_01DF.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS"
NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0391.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT"
NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0392.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS"
NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0393.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT"
NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0394.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7600 LE"
NVIDIA_G73.DEV_0395.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT "
NVIDIA_G73.DEV_039E.1="NVIDIA Quadro FX 560"
NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0211.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6800 "
NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0212.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE "
NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0215.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT "
NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0218.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XT "
NVIDIA_C51.DEV_0240.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6150"
NVIDIA_C51.DEV_0241.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE"
NVIDIA_C51.DEV_0242.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6100"
NVIDIA_C51.DEV_0245.1="NVIDIA Quadro NVS 210S / NVIDIA GeForce 6150LE"
NVIDIA_C61.DEV_03D0.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 430"
NVIDIA_C61.DEV_03D1.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 405"
NVIDIA_C61.DEV_03D2.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 400"
NVIDIA_C61.DEV_03D5.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6100 nForce 420"
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F1.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT "
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F2.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6600 "
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F3.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6200 "
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F4.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE "
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F5.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS"
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F6.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS/XT"
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F8.1="NVIDIA Quadro FX 3400/4400"
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00F9.1="NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Series GPU"
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00FA.1="NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5750"
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00FB.1="NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5900"
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00FC.1="NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5300"
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00FD.1="NVIDIA Quadro PCI-E Series"
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_00FE.1="NVIDIA Quadro FX 1300"
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_02E0.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT "
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_02E1.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS "
NVIDIA_BR02.DEV_02E2.1="NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT "
NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0191.1="NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX"
NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0193.1="NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS"
NVIDIA_Win2KDualView="NVIDIA Dualview"
NVIDIA_MultiView="NVIDIA Multiview"

This way 81.98 or even older builds [81.85, 77.72 or even 71.84] can be tested with these newer controllers under 98SE or ME.

The Forceware driver installer executable:
http://download.nvidia.com/Windows/81.98/8...n9x_english.exe
http://download.nvidia.com/Windows/81.85/8...n9x_english.exe
http://download.nvidia.com/Windows/77.72/7...n9x_english.exe
http://download.nvidia.com/Windows/71.84/7...n9x_english.exe
can be opened + files inside extracted with WinZip 9/10/11 or PowerArchiver [I have not tried CABVIEW.DLL thou]:
http://www.mdgx.com/toy.htm#ZIP
Then edit NVAGP.INF [or whatever the INF file name is] with Notepad and add lines above under respective sections. Save the file and then run SETUP.EXE from within the same directory. The new vid cards should be picked up [theoretically] during install.
Good luck.

Please let us know if this works [or not].
Thanks.

HTH

Petr

Nov 23 2006, 06:12 AM

QUOTE (MDGx @ Nov 23 2006, 11:43 AM)

There are no nv4_NV3x, nv4_MB_NV3x and nv4_WSApps_NV3x_DOEB sections in the W9x 81.98 inf file so it has no sense to add any of the a.m. lines.

Petr

galahs

Nov 24 2006, 08:02 AM

Just for our own sake (of building a Win9x archive) here is Nvidia's ForceWare (Drivers) Release Notes: http://www.nvidia.com/object/81.98_9x_supported.html

QUOTE

Products Supported

Product Support List Windows 95/98/Me – 81.98

GeForce2 MX
GeForce2 MX 100
GeForce2 MX 200
GeForce2 MX 400
GeForce3
GeForce3 Ti 200
GeForce3 Ti 500
GeForce4 MX 420
GeForce4 MX 440
GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X
GeForce4 MX440SE with AGP8X
GeForce4 MX 460
GeForce4 MX Integrated graphics
GeForce4 MX 4000
GeForce4 Ti 4200
GeForce4 TI 4200 with AGP8X
GeForce4 Ti 4400
GeForce4 Ti 4600
GeForce4 Ti 4800
GeForce4 Ti 4800SE
GeForce FX 5100
GeForce FX 5200
GeForce FX 5200LE
GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
GeForce FX 5500
GeForce FX 5600
GeForce FX 5600 Ultra
GeForce FX 5600SE
GeForce FX 5600XT
GeForce FX 5700
GeForce FX 5700VE
GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
GeForce FX 5700LE
GeForce FX 5800
GeForce FX 5800 Ultra
GeForce FX 5900
GeForce FX 5900 Ultra
GeForce FX 5900XT
GeForce FX 5900ZT
GeForce FX 5950 Ultra
GeForce 6200
GeForce 6200 with TurboCache
GeForce 6200SE with TurboCache
GeForce 6600 LE
GeForce 6600
GeForce 6600 GT
GeForce 6800
GeForce 6800 XE
GeForce 6800 LE
GeForce 6800 GT
GeForce 6800 Ultra
Quadro DCC
Quadro4 380 XGL
Quadro4 550 XGL
Quadro4 700 XGL
Quadro4 750 XGL
Quadro4 780 XGL
Quadro4 900 XGL
Quadro4 980 XGL
Quadro FX 500
Quadro FX 600
Quadro FX 700
Quadro FX 1000
Quadro FX 1100
Quadro FX 2000
Quadro FX 3000
Quadro FX 4000
Quadro NVS
Quadro NVS 280

The following products are not supported in the current ForceWare Release 80 driver. Please continue to use the previous ForceWare Release 70 drivers available here.

TNT2
TNT2 Pro
TNT2 Ultra
TNT2 Model 64 (M64)
TNT2 Model 64 (M64) Pro
Vanta
Vanta LT
GeForce 256
GeForce DDR
GeForce2 GTS
GeForce2 Pro
GeForce2 Ti
GeForce2 Ultra
GeForce2 MX Integrated graphics
Quadro
Quadro2 Pro
Quadro2 EX

Petr

Nov 24 2006, 04:44 PM

The list at http://www.nvidia.com/object/81.98_9x_supported.html is not correct, much better is to use the list in the INF file posted by MDGx

And just a note, according to http://download.nvidia.com/Windows/81.98/8...lease_Notes.pdf just AGP versions of 6xxx are supported, not PCI-E versions. PCI-E and AGP versions have different PCI ID.

I have forced Win98SE to use this driver with some PCI-E graphics boards (6200, 6200 with Turbo Cache, 6600) and it worked.

Petr

bugtest

Dec 1 2006, 12:17 PM

hey to all,
unfortunately seems that the 81.98 drivers don't work on 7600 with the new PCI ID which is recognized but the system freezes at boot when the gui loads.
Surfing on Internet I have found the 82.16 drivers provided by BFG for the 7800 GS card which can be considered the real latest drivers for this OS:
http://www.bfgtech.com/7800GS_256.html
Problems here too.
Other solutions?
Someone has a contact in Nvidia? eh eh eh
I think that Win9x drivers are useful to many people so I hope we (or Nvidia) will find a solution.

Lunac

Dec 1 2006, 01:17 PM

Nvidia's 81.98 are severely unstable. Also, you will suffer a serious performance hit in anything requiring DirectX 8.1 or below. (These drivers seem optimized for Directx 9.x). I got a drop of nearly 15% in 3DMark2001 with these drivers as compared to 40.72. On the other hand I got a small 3-4% boost in OpenGL benchmarks (GLExcess) when compared to 40.72.

Oh yeah, uninstall under Win98SE is broken in 81.98, so you will have to use something like DriverCleaner to get rid of it.

Petr

Dec 2 2006, 03:07 AM

QUOTE (Lunac @ Dec 1 2006, 08:17 PM)

Nvidia's 81.98 are severely unstable.

Do you have any details? I have 81.98 on all my Win9x computers since it was released and never seen any stability problem.

And if you read release notes you will see that there were many and many bugs corrected in newer versions (since series 40)

Petr

Petr

Dec 2 2006, 03:18 AM

QUOTE (bugtest @ Dec 1 2006, 07:17 PM)

Surfing on Internet I have found the 82.16 drivers provided by BFG for the 7800 GS card which can be considered the real latest drivers for this OS:
http://www.bfgtech.com/7800GS_256.html

Just for completeness, this driver adds support for the following PCI IDs:

CODE

NVIDIA&DEV_0183.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420 with AGP8X"
NVIDIA&DEV_018C.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA Quadro NVS 50 PCI"
NVIDIA&DEV_0320.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200"
NVIDIA&DEV_0047.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS"
NVIDIA&DEV_0218.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6800 XT"
NVIDIA&DEV_00F5.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS"

Petr

awergh

Dec 2 2006, 03:23 AM

one of the instability of the 81.89 is that you cant start win.com from dos

xtrm

Dec 2 2006, 07:13 AM

...and that the WMP hangs when it's not on the top while playing a movie, lol. I consider switching to the 77.72, is this one more stable (and gives good performance)?

Lunac

Dec 2 2006, 08:52 AM

Do I have any details? Let's see...well, probably the most critical one is that many times when shutting down my system (running Win98SE of course), it would not shut down. I would have to force a shutdown and/or reset. Also, many times while running several of my favorite games (D3D or OpenGL) they would simply exit in mid-play, crash that is. Sometimes there would be an error message, sometimes no errors, just a quick exit to the desktop. Using drivers 3x.xx, 4x.xx, 5x.xx, 6x.xx, or 7x.xx fixes all of those issues. (Although, on my GeForce3 TI500 and GeForce4 TI4600, anything above 4x.xx would result in performance hits) I've experienced these issues on 4 different nvidia cards with these drivers. (TI500, TI4600, 6600GT, and 6800nu).

Also, like I said before, under Win98SE, they won't uninstall properly. For my Ti500/TI4600, 40.72 give the best benchmark results, while for 6600GT/6800nu compatibility-wise, anything in 7x.xx series is preferred. (Although, 7x.xx are not perfect, I didn't have as many problems as I had with 81.98's)

awergh

Dec 2 2006, 04:06 PM

actually i have problems with the 7x.xx and the 8x.xx series
with unreal, half life with directx3d but not with 4x.xx is there any reason for this (Geforce 4 MX 420 PCI)

Lunac

Dec 2 2006, 05:27 PM

Yup, 7x.xx are not perfect like I said. (71.84 specifically) I've had problems with several games on my system with those. But I had to use 71.84 with my 6600GT/6800nu, since drivers with lower version numbers didn't even support those cards (4x.xx for example) and 81.98's are buggier. Also, in 3DMark2001 and GLExcess, 71.84's offer pretty good scores.

Depending on your system awergh, you should really stick to 4x.xx, 40.72 specifically. Not much is gained when upgrading (except some compatibility with newer games), but you will take a performance hit. So its higher FPS count versus more compatibility, you can't have both. Seeing that you have a MX420, you need all the FPS you can get. Stick with 4x.xx.

awergh

Dec 2 2006, 07:25 PM

ok i only tried 45.23 so ill try some more but rplite doesnt work properly with the 4x.xx series i dont think

RainyShadow

Dec 2 2006, 08:07 PM

I just found this: nouveau : Open Source 3D acceleration for nVidia cards
Seems to be for Linux driver, but contains some useful info.

xtrm

Dec 3 2006, 11:40 AM

Well, help please, I wanted to uninstall these darn 81.98 now and as somebody before said, you cannot do it in the software panel, it gives you an instant error. So how the hell do I get rid of this crap?

Lunac

Dec 3 2006, 11:55 AM

Like I said above, you can use something like Driver Cleaner Pro. (its free). Install the application, reboot into safe-mode, run the application and select the appropriate item from the "Cleaning Section".

I can't stress this enough: be sure to make a correct selection. There are several nvidia entries, including: "nVidia WDM", "nVidia Stereo", "nForce Chipset", and plain "nVidia" (this is the one you need, graphics driver). You should consult the help file, since different releases of Driver Cleaner Pro might have selections that are named differently. Trust me, if you have a nForce based motherboard, you don't want to accidentally remove the drivers for it.

Once the Driver Cleaner Pro finishes, reboot into your OS like you would normally and install the proper drivers.

xtrm

Dec 3 2006, 01:05 PM

I have already used DC Pro for cleaning my nvidia files after uninstalling my old 71.xx drivers, I didn't know it also works properly when I don't uninstall them before using DC Pro. Thanks for the advice.

*edit*

very nice, I now have the 77.72 WHQL and this "on top" problem still exists - and also all my media players (usual 7.1, media player classic, etc.) screw up any videos big time now, the colors are beyond good and evil and it just looks awful. It happens with *.avi and *.mpg, *.wmv works fine as far as I can see. What the hell is wrong now? I suppose mister DC Pro just messed up a bit too much - or the driver just sucks - AGAIN. God...

*edit2*

ok, i found out that somehow the new driver set the overlay gamma at 6.00 (default is 1), that's why everything looked like crap. Still the WMP hangs when I play a video and I put a browser window or any other window above it. Did not happen with my 71.xx.

MDGx

Dec 6 2006, 09:33 PM

QUOTE (bugtest @ Dec 1 2006, 12:17 PM)

Surfing on Internet I have found the 82.16 drivers provided by BFG for the 7800 GS card which can be considered the real latest drivers for this OS:
http://www.bfgtech.com/7800GS_256.html

I have tried Forceware 82.16 and same thing happened [again]:
computer locks up if trying to reload Windows UI from native MS-DOS by running WIN.COM .

xtrm

Dec 7 2006, 09:45 AM

Just an addition to my last post: this wmp bug still happens with my 71.xx drivers, it seems to be an issue of the card itself at win9x?! Anyway, it sucks.

myelin

Dec 16 2006, 07:31 AM

Hello, may i ask what are the best Windows98SE drivers for TNT 2 M64 PCI 32 MB video card?

Question 2: I have observed that Windows 9x vxd drivers are much more faster then Windows98SE WDM on Windows98SE and also on Windows ME. So i was thinking that if i could download ME drivers for my card from this site ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/ Would they work? i mean be faster then original Windows 98SE drivers?

glocK_94

Dec 17 2006, 08:35 AM

I believe the Detonator 5x were the fastest avaible for the TNT2. However they're quite old so if you plan to play games released later, you may need to install the latest Forceware supporting this card (7x).

Chozo4

Dec 17 2006, 10:35 AM

Perhaps try forcing these older drivers [from '93

] from OmegaDrive?

http://www.omegadrivers.net/nvidia/win9x_me.php

Been using them [forced using the driver for the GeForce4 Ti 4200 w/agp8x] on my geforce 4000mx without any problems. The Nvidia CPanel marks my card as 'unknown' but still overclocks and performs the same. Went to these drivers due to a nagging issue with the 81.xx drivers which involved an image tearing effect despite vsync being on when setting a game directly to full screen.

myelin

Dec 17 2006, 10:52 PM

QUOTE (glocK_94 @ Dec 17 2006, 07:35 PM)

But the latest 77.72 drivers do not support TNT2. There is a non-WHQL version and WHQL version at this site ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/ . The WHQL version does not support TNT 2.

Anyway thanks for reply. I am using 40.72 drivers with it as Lunac in above posts points out that they are the fastest forceware drivers available.

glocK_94

Dec 18 2006, 04:21 AM

QUOTE (myelin @ Dec 18 2006, 06:52 AM)

But the latest 77.72 drivers do not support TNT2. There is a non-WHQL version and WHQL version at this site ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/ . The WHQL version does not support TNT 2.

Anyway thanks for reply. I am using 40.72 drivers with it as Lunac in above posts points out that they are the fastest forceware drivers available.

Ok.

(just for info, the 77.72 don't support TNT2 but the 71.84 do)

To stay in the subject, I've downloaded the BFG drivers linked by Bugtest (thanks man! ) and looked at it. As Petr stated, it adds a few lines to Nvaml.inf to support 7800gs and others. So if they did it, it's possible. That would be an incredible achievement to make Win98 support newer cards. Even if it's AGP only.

myelin

Dec 18 2006, 06:41 AM

QUOTE (glocK_94 @ Dec 18 2006, 03:21 PM)

Ok.

(just for info, the 77.72 don't support TNT2 but the 71.84 do)

Hey thanks man, i am trying them right now.

hwtan

Jan 9 2007, 08:43 PM

This may not be directly related to the topic. My mb was down recently and I change it to PCchips M955G. Now my TNT 2, with win98SE, does not work. It hangs when reboot after installing 71.84.

Is TNT2 compatible with M955G, or is it a driver problem?

Philco

Jan 11 2007, 02:23 AM

QUOTE (Chozo4 @ Dec 17 2006, 10:35 AM)

Perhaps try forcing these older drivers [from '93

OMEGADRIVE here!
These are my "optimized" drivers for the NVIDIA family of video cards/laptops.

What's New? (2k/XP 1.6177)

* Based on the Official 61.77 drivers.

* Changed some options needed for the new CP to work properly.

* Added support for 6800 cards.

* Improved installation, now there is no need to install the drivers
manually, I included an automatic installer.

* Improved uninstall, follow the instructions in the included "How to..."
document in order to fully uninstall the drivers.

* Package size increased thanks to the new auto installer, sorry.

* Updated Multires to version 1.47

myelin

Jan 11 2007, 12:04 PM

QUOTE (hwtan @ Jan 10 2007, 07:43 AM)

TNT2 has some severe problems with 71.84, degrade your drivers to lower version. 44.xx drivers are nice. Also 40.xx drivers also are good. Link to download: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_archive.html

RJARRRPCGP

Jan 11 2007, 07:41 PM

QUOTE (hwtan @ Jan 9 2007, 09:43 PM)

Known issue with some motherboards, especially nForce-based motherboards.

But, the problem is less likely to occur if you have a GeForce with nForce.

The problem was observed when using a
Radeon 9000 Pro with nForce.

Also, it appears that Windows 98, nForce and ATI don't mix!

But, the good news is that you may be able to get around that problem by using Windows ME.

I noticed the above with my Asus A7N266-VM/AA motherboard.

On the Asus A7N266-VM/AA, if I install Windows 98 SE and install the nForce drivers,
then after I install the Catalyst drivers and reboot, it locks up.

But it was fine with Windows ME! I found that to be a strange issue, because ME didn't have major changes, AFAIK.

But you do have a Nvidia video card. Thus I dunno.

bristols

Jan 11 2007, 09:45 PM

QUOTE (Philco @ Jan 11 2007, 08:23 AM)

QUOTE (Chozo4 @ Dec 17 2006, 10:35 AM)

Perhaps try forcing these older drivers [from '93

OMEGADRIVE here!
These are my "optimized" drivers for the NVIDIA family of video cards/laptops.

What's New? (2k/XP 1.6177)

I'm not sure that I understand.

Are you recommending tweaked Windows 2k/XP Omega drivers for Windows 9x? If so, can you provide a link please?

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