Since there is a great number of components in the Vista left and I can't add them all at once since I pay attention to the dependencies and try to make them more user friendly, you can suggest few components (2-3) which you would like to be removed in the next update, also the tweaks you would like to see in the Tweaks page.

Note: things which are done and conversations around it will be deleted to keep it more readable in the future.

Hrm, just noticed something about the x64 edition of vista, running rc2...I've noticed that both 32bit and 64bit versions of the program files programs exist...i mean, take for example the windows sidebar, vista x64 uses the 64bit sidebar app, however, the files are also there for the 32bit version...

Could the 32 bit varients be removed using vlite? or would it be possible for each option that has both versions to remove either the 32bit or the 64 bit? or is that going a bit crazy?!

I'm also curious, if you remove the sidebar in x64 using vlite, does it also remove the 32bit version?

At a quick look things i've noticed have 32bit and 64bit versions are

Windows Sidebar
Windows Photo Gallery
Windows Media Player
Windows Mail
Windows Calendar


ok, its only around an additional 22mb of space for the 32 bit versions, but still


Things of interest i noticed, windows only installs the x64 games, no 32bit ones, there appear to be 3 32bit speech engines and only one for x64, the x64 is a x64 version of one of the 32bit ones.

I've only had a quick look at the folders to see what files are there, i've noticed some folders are in both folders, and noticed that some of the 32bit ones only have some files, i'm assuming for compatablity, but regarding the sidebar, I can't think of a reason why you would need both? just taking up extra space!

The reason i was wondering, was because at first i was curious to if you could merge the 2 program files foldger together, as i'm not a big fan of having extra folders for everything! I know its not essential, but i liked it with xp, there was just, documents and settings, program files, windows and recyled, everything else would be organised into one of those folders well and system volume information, I suppose i may be a bit of a fussy but for some reason i like the root folder to look neat! ... i think i need to get out more!

enable the super buildin admin please and maybe i can rename it too that will be a great feature for me

can u disable all the stuff from the "add program" i mean there are win features and will be great after installation that there will be no "x" in the checkbox. i have do deinstall this after a installation.

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can u please uncheck the index search mode for each hdd too? other tweaks like no restore point will be nice too!

-- enable classic mode on first boot
-- "Games" Start menu folder is still listed even though I removed all games
-- "Default Programs" and "Windows Update" on Classic Start menu - remove them from on top of Programs
-- remove "Help and Support" from Start menu
-- remove "Documents"from Start menu
-- remove "Windows Live Messenger Download" link on Start/Programs

Thanks for vLite, I'm loving it and looking forward to its next release.

Are you thinking about the ability to insert Mass Storage Drivers into Vlite, ie, Silicon Image 3114 Raid 5 Controller Driver. I now have to do it with a floppy or USB stick.

After 5 years of development, Vista Enterprise, for some strange reason does not allow an Upgrade Install if you have a Mass Storage Raid system and have to install the drivers this way. This company is just amazing in their incompetence.

I know this might be a bit difficult and it is not a big issue, but it would be nice to somehow see to what Vista version a presest is related to (as it is already stored in the preset) when you want to load/overwrite a preset.

Thks nuhi for spending your time making our os less bloated with ms crap. Cheers!
I've compile a list of all the wanted features from other users in the coming vlite version for easy viewing.

Service
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Certificate Propagation - No Dependencies
IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules - No Dependencies
Messenger Sharing Folders USN Journal Reader service - No Dependencies
Problem Reports and Solutions Control Panel Support - No Dependencies
Remote Access Auto Connection Manager - No Dependencies
Smart Card Removal Policy - No Dependencies
Windows Connect Now - Config Registrar - No Dependencies

System Components
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Accessories (like paint, calculator, wordpad)
Disk Quota and/or Previous Versions Tab
Ease of Access Center
Games Explorer
Internet Explorer
Malicious Software Removal Tool
MSN Connection Center (cclitesetupui.exe)
Windows Contacts
Windows marketplace
Windows Meeting Space
Windows Media Player

Integration
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Integrating other language packs

System Tweaks
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Allow unsigned drivers
Disable creation of hibernate-file
Disable DEP
Disable Minimum Ram & Harddisk Requirement
Disable Windows Defender Reporting
Import of a Registry file to apply at first boot
Removeval of WLM download Link

Suggestions:

- Auto Eject at end of Disc burn
- When adding multiple folders (drivers) it comes up with list of drivers found, could shift/ctrl select be added to make it easier than selecting one by one.
- Minimize to system tray!!!

I have a few small suggestions, based on my installation of Vista with nearly every option removed:

- Add the following registry tweak: When users have selected IME for removal, the Command Prompt still loads conime.exe (wich is not removed), wich searches for the ime files for a full 10 to 20 seconds before giving up. Thus, it slows down the opening of a Command Prompt instance considerably. Using the following registry tweak disables the loading of / searching for conime.exe, it's IME files and the IME input in the Command Prompt: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Console\dword:LoadConIme:0x00000000(0). Of course, the tweak should be applied to the default user profile before a user profile is created.

- Make sure that, when the removal of IME is selected, all IME files are actually removed. There are a bunch of files still in system32\IME\shared, and as far as I know it is unnecassery when IME has been removed. Also, the earlier mentioned conime.exe is still present in system32.

- Some or all of the TableTextService files are still present in Program Files\Windows NT\TableTextService. I can't remember if there was an option to remove these, but if there's not, it's an easy fix to remove these files from the Vista installation. There are just 3 entries in the registry; one for the dll under CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID, and 2 for the text files under ehm.. Microsoft\Windows\IME\Locale (or something like it).

- An interesting option would be a little wizard-like tool, where the user would choose his/her enviroment (at home, corporate etc) and it would then disable some of the absolutely unneccasery services associated. For example, IPSec services aren't used when a user isn't in a corporate enviroment and/or doesn't use VPN. Or another example: In a corporate enviroment, the network mapping services (and non-pnp drivers) aren't really needed. A lot of services can be disabled this way. This idea isn't based on the concept of in-depth tweaking (for wich someone should have in-depth knowledge about vista's services), but more like a general assesement. I think users of vLite not only use it to make the disk space vista takes smaller, but especially the memory footprint.

- I don't remember if there was an option to remove the 'customer improvement program' stuff in vista, but it would be nice to have, even though the files and settings (and taskscheduler items) aren't that many... It's the idea that counts.

- There are certain registry classes and other items that are kept when certain components are checked for removal in vLite. For example, removing the games doesn't remove the GameExplorer links, folders and registry classes. I don't know if this behaviour is intended, but it seems a bit sloppy.

- Something I would like to see in vLite is the removal of the Component Cache items that have been deleted from Vista with vLite. It's not that hard, just check for the files each component has and check if vlite removes them. If so, then also remove the component from the component cache. However, if something like this were attempted, then there might be definate hurdles ahead... Such as wrecking Windows Update. I haven't tried it out, and I don't know if Windows Update verifies all components... but if it does, then things suddenly get much less easy. But on the other hand, not removing the components isn't ideal either, since Windows Update happily places files, directories and registry entries on your system dedicated to components you've selected for removal in vLite, whenever a new update is available. Atleast, that's what I suspect Windows Update of doing. I think I'll go deeper into this.

- The last option I would like to see -it's a biggie-, is the removal of Side-By-Side Assemblies aka. WinSxS. This is definately a though one, and not one I'd expect to see in vLite... but it would be nice. For me, WinSxS is not needed. I'd rather have the associated DLL versions redirected to the program's own folder when installing, so it can load them from there.. Or not at all. The idea behind WinSxS is noble: the removal of bugs and/or errors that crop up when outdated or newer versions of certain dll's are used in wich functions invariable are different then the version the programmer used. However, personally, I don't care. I'd like the newest version of my dll's and if a program hasn't updated for a while (and thus needs an old version of a DLL), I'll just search for another program with the same functionality. So to me, all that disk space that all those versions of all those dll's take is way too much. So yeah, it would be nice to have, but it wouldn't be an expected feature of vLite.

Other then these points, I love the program. I tried for the last month to remove stuff from a Vista installation myself to see what exactly has changed since XP, and I know how time-consuming something like that can be, especially with 'debugging' certain component removals. Some files are tied up in really strange ways, it's one big plate of italian spaghetti under the hood.

Ok Now I have finnally managed to get Vlite to work I went through it but was a bit sad to find the following features not in it:

> Can't integrate software to install automaticly, like in Nlite did
> Run Once to run dos commands once xp is installed
> Have not got a feature to make all your user accounts in the unattended part
> Network Settings unattended
> The OEM folder to put your own stuff in to install
> And tweaking Windows Services,


I know its alot and prob can't get all done but I think my main quible would be the Unattended feature think it needs alot more too it and then its a fight between software intregration and run once I think they both draw second at importance.

Other then that great app another great job.

First of all, vLite is a Great product, i don't know how you managed to get rid of all these compenents with such a simple GUI.

Second, there are few features that can be tweaked for achieving additional performance gain.

1. The Location of the Program Files\Users Folder (Maybe on another drive)
2. Location of the Page\Hibernation File
3. Performance Effects setting
4. Other default location of files (Such as Restore Points)

Or.

Hi Nuhi, great prog m8 !
One suggestion, i just have read FireGeier's tutorial. Can you add a application intrations box. It will be awsome, as the driver one already exists. Thnx again !

Has anyone suggested:

Restore previous folder windows at logon
Snap-To mouse tweak

removing the ms bluetooth stack. it sucks in vista too and i want to use my widcomm!

Delete box for advanced users would be nice - just like in nLite, so we could remove additional files in vista. Please!!?

i'd like to suggest no GUI boot option

option to change the default views, i really, really hate the details view and cant figure out how to change it to tiles permanently.

some way to install creative sound drivers

Move all the short-cuts in the start menu to dir named More

Ms like to flood with her products


%SystemRoot%\system32\csrss.exe ObjectDirectory=\Windows SharedSection=1024,3072,512 Windows=On SubSystemType=Windows ServerDll=basesrv,1 ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3 ServerDll=winsrv:ConServerDllInitialization,2 ProfileControl=Off MaxRequestThreads=16

MaxRequestThreads is tcp ports ? maybe there it possible to add more tcp ports open

TcpMaxDupAcks could be the tcp ports per sec

Public Folders hiding in explorer shell

here's what i hide..





so it looks like this..




to do it you need to remove the following things



do not delete the whole public folder from 'C:\Users', may cause installation problems and missing desktop shortcuts

That Public folder is indeed annoying, however I think you need to registry settings for removal:

-Tweak to disable Vista's TCP/IP Auto Tuning

Dude, FOR SURE, I think you should add this...

* Ability to change the default directorys (IE., Windows, Documents and Settings, Boot, ProgramData, Users, Program Files)

* Add a way to add our own custom .REG file at the end. That way, we can add our own little tweaks to Vista.

* Network card setup, workgroup, etc. Like in nLite.

* Default IE page. Make it Google.com ;-)

Thanks for the GREAT software. You're really a life saver! We all appreciate your work very much.

The reg setting I've been applying since the early builds of vLite should help - I remove WinSAT and glass is always enabled for me without restarting DWM or other such intervention.



Edit: I just reinstalled without the above tweak and can confirm it's responsible for activating glass aero - perhaps nuhi could add this to the existing glass tweak in vLite?

it would be nice if i could automatically have "ownership" of all files. i HATE having to go through all the steps to take ownership and control the files on my pc.

but thank you for all that you have done i love Vlite

only one registry key is needed to skip the initial WMP11 wizard, this makes WMP11 open instantly the first time with default settings

Great work nuhi, but there are some things that just i need:
* Option to select the Security Center Error Reporting modes, i don't need those errors, i usually hide it.
* Select resolution and the monitor hertz'es (if possible)
* Disable the unsigned driver confirmation
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And now the less-needed options:
* Selecting Google for MSIE7 default Search engine
* Choose your own MSIE7 Home page

And other customizable windows vista settings , i made just my first vlite disk and it works brilliant, just a lil bit configuration and updates.

System Restore...not to remove it, but option to keep, but disable....
Disk defragmenting...disable automatic disk defragmenting
Services...able to set services startup behavior (as in nLite)...I want to disable SuperFetch, but not to remove it (I hate it, because it does lot of hard drive trashing...and I don't see any performance differences)

nuhi, your the man!

Anyways, things that should be added to list are the following:

Disable the thumb.db creation (not sure if Vista has this, or if it stores the file(s) somewhere els).
Be able to remove keyboard layouts and languages (just as with nLite).

Tweeks:
disable autorun on all drives (i.e DVD/CD/HDDVD or Blueray) same as with portable devices that use for example Memory Sticks.

add "disable indexing service".
add Folder view selection?

I also have some questions regarding this picture...



which is the following:
It is possible to "remove" the search bar here and on the start menu?
Might it be possible to hide these back/forward icons?
Is there any way to "move" files? I still haven't found this option on Vista..
Anyway to remove the third bar that has the "Organize and View selections" ?

edit: some lines were altered.

Disable IPv6:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip6\Parameters]
"DisabledComponents"=dword:000000ff

hi nuhi, and congratulation for your work !

i have some suggestions to do (don't know if anyone have done it yet) :

- In the Hotfix section, an option to download critical and recommanded hotfix via internet, like "Windows Update Downloader" or like some other soft which offer that possibility, but an AIO with vLite could be amazing !

- Why some update file with *.EXE extension could'nt be add in hotfix section ? i'm thinking to the files "Windows-KB890830-V1.33.exe" (the MRT) and "WindowsUpdateAgent30-x86.exe", they are important to the update of the unattend. Or we will must wait for addons like in nLite ?

- An option to patch with vLite the UXTHEME.DLL to apply non-signed themes with the possibility like in nLite to choose the theme, wallpaper by default ... and the TCPIP.SYS tweaks too ...

- that's all

hi nuhi, just installed vista ultimate 64 bit 2 weeks ago and am still getting used to it. i have not run vlite yet so my suggestions may or may not be part of it already. here are my suggestions -
1 turn off security center and make so it doesn't nag you to turn it on. i have it turned off now and it keeps nagging me every restart to turn it back on
2 remove the shortcut arrows on the icons on desktop
3 on the start menu for programs, is there way to expand it so you do not have to scroll to see the things installed? sorry if this is worded wrong
these are just some i have thought of as i get used to vista and sorry if they are part of it already
and as always great job in starting this project

One of the greatest tweaks I have seen. To make Windows folders stick as in XP (instead of Ms. "I know better" Vista):

hmm, how about merging install.wim's. So if i rebuilt 2 versions of vista and then wanted them on one disk instead of too.

A function to stop Windows making hotfix backups in WinSXS.

So without this ability to uninstall hotfixes, you would not be able to uninstall hotfixes, but would save a lot of space.

I posted about this here:
http://www.msfn.org/board/Slipstreaming-Ho...mp;gopid=712704

Apparently the size of the ISO only increases when integrating hotfixes because it makes backups of the older files.

Pfffff! I don't want to ever uninstall any hotfixes and don't want all those backup files although I searched WinSXS for the KB numbers of a few hotfixes and none of them appear anywhere.

enable to change or add reg

great nuhi, i believe you can do it!

Please add an option to change the mouserate to 500hz and patch the uxtheme.dll, like in nLite

Thanks!

I second the user account thing, I'm still struggling with the autounattend.xml file

Two things I would absolutely love to see is

1: the ability to add programs to be installed (similar to NLite but without the neccesity to make an addon)
2: the ability to insert registry keys into VLite

install two vista at one installation, possible ?

one will be tiny and good for games and the another for others things

sounds crazy but may help a lot to gamers

I didn't read this whole thread so I don't know if it was mentioned before but the ability to permanently disable the organize/views toolbar in explorer and turn on the file/edit/etc toolbar would be very nice.

My first post here .Ok.Here goes:
Since i do a lot of vLited Vista clean installs then i have noticed a few things that vLite could improve further:

*If the image to be installed contains integrated drivers that are Beta then during the vista install Completing Installation phase vista constantly asks for confirmation about if i want to install this unsigned driver.Trust me when i say...its not pleasant to click the install this driver anyway box 36 times in a row .It sorta demolishes the all unattended install idea.

*Before the first login vista does a ~60 second scan for performance evaluation(performance index).There should be a tweak to lose this .In the end the score attained is not valid anyway because graphics score is 1 on 8800GTS SLI until installing drivers(5.9 after drivers installed).Thus...why run the performance evaluation before first login if you have to run it second time anyway to get correct numbers .Also i doubt anyone is eager to see all the PR texst about simplicity and so on ....

*As some here have said...there should be fourth tab in vLite to integrate various registry settings/files.

will be nice to have that feather

disable or enable feathers as unattained option

picture have the info to understand what i mean

1. it would be nice with a tweak who activate the "real" bootscreen..
2. and remove integrated language

thanks for a wonderful program!

Just gonan repeat myself here, just in case it was missed in the purple pill thread

on't know if it has been mentioned before or if I overlooked it, but the option to enter network settings in "unattended" section (like in nLite) would be very nice to have

I would like to have the ability to customize:

Program Files (location)
Protect Your PC (need to add an option for Notify Me, but don't automatically download or install updates)





Thank you!

I have a small sugestion. im integrating ALL hotfixes right now and it takes hours (currently 4 hours at least).
Can you make an option that the pc shuts down itself when its ready with slipstreaming.

with autoruns.exe i think u could do that

The feature i miss most from nlite is option to decide which partion the programfiles folder should be and the profiles folder with my documents folder and other things, i wants this things off the os partion, so if anythings goes wrong not all is lost. also miss the option to rename the windows folder. This maybe be small things but i think they are important, and vlite is not so useful for me before this things is implemented. Another thing who would be useful is a option to decide which parttion the swap file should be on and the size of it, that would rock

i would like a "safemode" tab so people who dont know what to remove cant do it safe..like in nlite,there is a "load safe" tab.

save help.exe to cmd line help



the file is in system32

A feature that isnt important too much...

And option to remove the links in the ie7 favorites folder. Just gets annoying to delete them all the time.

Thanks.



Looking forward to next version...hopefully it will make my vista installation even smaller