Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Best Browser
MSFN Forums > The General Stuff > General Discussion > The Poll Center
Pages: 1, 2

   
Google Internet Forums Unattended CD/DVD Guide
sameen
firefox 1 is good ..i think...
nitroshift
I voted for IE7, as that's what I'm using ATM. If you`re careful where you go and what you do while on the internet, I don't think you'll find yourself in a tight spot.
Jeremy
IE vs. Firefox
Firefox vs. Opera
IE vs. Opera
3aces
love firefox...now that it supports windows live mail..........im soo happy lool...... laugh.gif
ripken204
i think we've had this same topic posted about a billion times... and i still vote opera.
Thunderbolt 2864
Firefox 2 is the best for me.
Idontwantspam
I voted Opera because I think it's the best of those listed. However, I use Firefox on a day-to-day basis, because I'm used to it and I like it better for some reason. But Opera has a lot of features and had some of Firefox's features first, so I gave it my vote. Worst browser? IE by far.
neo
I think IE7 is the most reliable web browser
ripken204
QUOTE (neo @ Apr 14 2007, 03:55 PM) *
I think IE7 is the most reliable web browser

what do you mean by reliable? to me IE is still unreliable, ive had to use it on some comps in school and it bugs up alot. but IE7 is by far the best IE out that ive ever used, that still doesnt mean that its good tho... so plz i would just like to know why everyone likes it? or have you not tried FF/Opera?
Woomera
Opera all the way.it has have the options you want and you add any custom botton you want to the menu's.love the easy way that you can add specific option for a certain website by just righ-clicking on the page and choose EDIT SITE PREFERENCES...
as for some websites(1 in 100) that opera cant handle correctly i use firefox.
doggitydogs
IE7
Zxian
I'd have to say Opera, just because I'm familiar with it, and it just works out of the box as expected and wanted.

I installed Fedora Core 6 on this computer, and it had Firefox as the default browser. No mouse gestures, strange tab options, and overall just an imcomplete feature set. I downloaded and installed Opera, and everything just works.
awergh
opera
Mangix
Opera again
[deXter]
Opera. Mostly because I've been using it since my Windows 3.1 days. I find that its very stable and has an overall polished, professional feel to it. It's also quite small- only 4 MB but packs in plenty of features!

It's also proven to be the fastest and the most secure graphical web browser.

But I regularly use Firefox and IE too. Firefox because a few sites don't work in Opera, and a few extensions I find very useful, and IE because I use it as a honeypot!

Opera sucks if you're looking to get infected. Seriously. I mean, wtf, even the animated cursor bug didn't affect Opera, while Fx and IE were!

If you're looking for malware, avoid Opera. Period.
prx984
QUOTE ([deXter] @ May 18 2007, 07:49 AM) *
Opera. Mostly because I've been using it since my Windows 3.1 days. I find that its very stable and has an overall polished, professional feel to it. It's also quite small- only 4 MB but packs in plenty of features!

It's also proven to be the fastest and the most secure graphical web browser.

But I regularly use Firefox and IE too. Firefox because a few sites don't work in Opera, and a few extensions I find very useful, and IE because I use it as a honeypot!

Opera sucks if you're looking to get infected. Seriously. I mean, wtf, even the animated cursor bug didn't affect Opera, while Fx and IE were!

If you're looking for malware, avoid Opera. Period.

Dude....what?

You started off saying Opera was very professional, and then finished off by calling it crap tongue.gif

The reason I prefer IE is because the fact that its fast. In my experience, it has always been fast and uses the least amount of ram out of the 3 browsers I have used. Opera would use 60mb on my computer, Firefox could go from about 50mb - 75mb, depending on how it felt, and IE would use around 20mb or so.

That's my personal opinion, so don't try to change my opinion.
Mangix
QUOTE (prx984 @ May 19 2007, 05:52 PM) *
The reason I prefer IE is because the fact that its fast. In my experience, it has always been fast and uses the least amount of ram out of the 3 browsers I have used. Opera would use 60mb on my computer, Firefox could go from about 50mb - 75mb, depending on how it felt, and IE would use around 20mb or so.

That's my personal opinion, so don't try to change my opinion.

http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/IE7-vs...pera-9-20-4.png

20mb my a**
prx984
Look how many god **** tabs you have open. I'm talking 1 tab open. I don't use tabs because I don't like the idea of them. I prefer buttons in my taskbar. Besides, who in the hell browses that many god **** pages at once? Eh?

Heres some proof of what I mean.

Idontwantspam
QUOTE (prx984 @ May 19 2007, 05:52 PM) *
QUOTE ([deXter] @ May 18 2007, 07:49 AM) *

Opera. Mostly because I've been using it since my Windows 3.1 days. I find that its very stable and has an overall polished, professional feel to it. It's also quite small- only 4 MB but packs in plenty of features!

It's also proven to be the fastest and the most secure graphical web browser.

But I regularly use Firefox and IE too. Firefox because a few sites don't work in Opera, and a few extensions I find very useful, and IE because I use it as a honeypot!

Opera sucks if you're looking to get infected. Seriously. I mean, wtf, even the animated cursor bug didn't affect Opera, while Fx and IE were!

If you're looking for malware, avoid Opera. Period.

Dude....what?

You started off saying Opera was very professional, and then finished off by calling it crap tongue.gif

The reason I prefer IE is because the fact that its fast. In my experience, it has always been fast and uses the least amount of ram out of the 3 browsers I have used. Opera would use 60mb on my computer, Firefox could go from about 50mb - 75mb, depending on how it felt, and IE would use around 20mb or so.

That's my personal opinion, so don't try to change my opinion.

He says it sucks if you want malware. Most people don't... therefore, it's good for most people.

QUOTE (prx984 @ May 19 2007, 07:48 PM) *
Look how many god **** tabs you have open. I'm talking 1 tab open. I don't use tabs because I don't like the idea of them. I prefer buttons in my taskbar. Besides, who in the hell browses that many god **** pages at once? Eh?

Heres some proof of what I mean.


What's wrong with tabs? They keep the taskbar cleaner. Personally, I like to be able to read what the name of each open window is, not just see a little icon. Tabs make it easier to group, for example, work in one window with tabs, MSFN and other non-work in a window in tabs and email, etc. in a third window with tabs. So I have three buttons on the taskbar and two to five in each window. Much easier than 8 buttons on the taskbar. And if I'm not using the RAM elsewhere, why not let FF have it?
ripken204
lol, my opera is using over 110mb of ram right now! but i also have 22 tabs open...
[deXter]
QUOTE (prx984 @ May 19 2007, 06:52 PM) *
QUOTE ([deXter] @ May 18 2007, 07:49 AM) *

Opera. Mostly because I've been using it since my Windows 3.1 days. I find that its very stable and has an overall polished, professional feel to it. It's also quite small- only 4 MB but packs in plenty of features!

It's also proven to be the fastest and the most secure graphical web browser.

But I regularly use Firefox and IE too. Firefox because a few sites don't work in Opera, and a few extensions I find very useful, and IE because I use it as a honeypot!

Opera sucks if you're looking to get infected. Seriously. I mean, wtf, even the animated cursor bug didn't affect Opera, while Fx and IE were!

If you're looking for malware, avoid Opera. Period.

Dude....what?

You started off saying Opera was very professional, and then finished off by calling it crap tongue.gif

The reason I prefer IE is because the fact that its fast. In my experience, it has always been fast and uses the least amount of ram out of the 3 browsers I have used. Opera would use 60mb on my computer, Firefox could go from about 50mb - 75mb, depending on how it felt, and IE would use around 20mb or so.

That's my personal opinion, so don't try to change my opinion.


Read my last line again, carefully tongue.gif

Btw, you can change the amount of ram Oprea uses whistling.gif
Idontwantspam
22?!?! Now that is a bit much in my opinion. What 22 sites do you have open at once!? No wonder it's using a lot of RAM. But if you have RAM to spare, no reason not to use it...
[deXter]
QUOTE (Idontwantspam @ May 19 2007, 10:15 PM) *
22?!?! Now that is a bit much in my opinion. What 22 sites do you have open at once!? No wonder it's using a lot of RAM. But if you have RAM to spare, no reason not to use it...


22 is quite normal, imho. Sometimes I have upto 80 tabs open in 4-5 windows smile.gif

Window 1 has all forum related tabs, window 2 related to viruses, exploits and security, window 3 email and news sites (slashdot, digg etc), and window 4 has programming and technical related (msdn, technet, etc) smile.gif
prx984
QUOTE ([deXter] @ May 20 2007, 03:07 AM) *
QUOTE (Idontwantspam @ May 19 2007, 10:15 PM) *
22?!?! Now that is a bit much in my opinion. What 22 sites do you have open at once!? No wonder it's using a lot of RAM. But if you have RAM to spare, no reason not to use it...


22 is quite normal, imho. Sometimes I have upto 80 tabs open in 4-5 windows smile.gif

Window 1 has all forum related tabs, window 2 related to viruses, exploits and security, window 3 email and news sites (slashdot, digg etc), and window 4 has programming and technical related (msdn, technet, etc) smile.gif

That's insane, your nuts tongue.gif

I don't go to more than 1 page at a time, so I don't need the tabs at all.
Idontwantspam
I guess that proves that we all have different tastes...
ripken and dexter, how much RAM do you have? What percentage does opera use? It would be interesting to calculate RPT, or RAM-Per-Tab. laugh.gif
dirtwarrior
Just my .02 worth. The best browser is one you feel comfortable with and does what is needed with little fuss. All of them do the same thing surf the net. My advise is try some out and pick the one you like.
ripken204
QUOTE (dirtwarrior @ May 20 2007, 02:46 PM) *
Just my .02 worth. The best browser is one you feel comfortable with and does what is needed with little fuss. All of them do the same thing surf the net. My advise is try some out and pick the one you like.

this is correct for an opinion based answer, but there has to be a "best" out there. but you are correct that people should use what they like.

QUOTE (Idontwantspam @ May 20 2007, 01:53 PM) *
I guess that proves that we all have different tastes...
ripken and dexter, how much RAM do you have? What percentage does opera use? It would be interesting to calculate RPT, or RAM-Per-Tab. laugh.gif

i only have 20 tabs open now, ~100mb of ram. lol
i have a total of 2 gigs of ram so i have plenty to spare.

some of my tabs are coding related, some are newegg, some are math, some are wiki, some are inquirer, some are youtube. it all builds up. its better making my bookmarks longer IMO.
Zxian
QUOTE (ripken204 @ May 20 2007, 12:56 PM) *
this is correct for an opinion based answer, but there has to be a "best" out there. but you are correct that people should use what they like.


This is what people don't seem to understand about the word "best". Best is a subjective term. Best comes down to several factors, the main one of which is preference. You can't say that there is one best for all, other wise it goes back to the old saying, "You can have any color you want, as long as it's black".

(If you don't know the origin of that saying, look it up)
ripken204
well my point is that there can only be 1 best. isnt that what the word means...
if you have 3 ppl claiming 3 different browsers the best.. then we have a problem. to them it is the best but in reality there is only 1 best.
and we cant really figure out what the best is since everyone is basing it on their own opinions and not always facts.
we should find out which has the best ram usage, security, speed, ease of use, customizability, etc.
Zxian
QUOTE (ripken204 @ May 20 2007, 02:37 PM) *
well my point is that there can only be 1 best. isnt that what the word means...
if you have 3 ppl claiming 3 different browsers the best.. then we have a problem. to them it is the best but in reality there is only 1 best.
and we cant really figure out what the best is since everyone is basing it on their own opinions and not always facts.
we should find out which has the best ram usage, security, speed, ease of use, customizability, etc.

That's exactly my point - there is no "one best".

Just taking your list of conditions, the "ease of use" is very subjective, and simply can't be put on a scale of one to ten like RAM security can. I find Opera very easy to use, but my girlfriend hates it. The simple fact of the matter is that she and I disagree on what is the "best browser", just like many people in this poll.

Also - if I were to ask the simple question, what's the best OS, you'd have absolutely no way of properly answering that, since it really depends on what you want to do. If you're looking to host PHP and MySQL pages, you can do it on Windows, but it's much better to do that on *nix. On the other hand, some applications are only available for Windows. What if you're forced to use them?

The long story short is that the term "best" can't always be put on a scale. Sure, an F1 car might be one of the best racing cars, but would I consider using it for day to day use? Heck no...
dirtwarrior
QUOTE (ripken204 @ May 20 2007, 05:37 PM) *
well my point is that there can only be 1 best.
and we cant really figure out what the best is since everyone is basing it on their own opinions and not always facts.
we should find out which has the best ram usage, security, speed, ease of use, customizability, etc.


Interesting, has anyone tested them yet?
ripken204
well i think me and zxian just made it pointless to test them. lol
it all depends on preferences so it seems kind of stupid to even have these polls/discussions if its impossible to come up with a true answer.
[deXter]
QUOTE (ripken204 @ May 20 2007, 05:47 PM) *
well i think me and zxian just made it pointless to test them. lol
it all depends on preferences so it seems kind of stupid to even have these polls/discussions if its impossible to come up with a true answer.


Exactly. Actually this poll is incorrectly titled - it should have been called "Which browser do you use the most". That'd have been more appropriate or relevant. Infact, I would personally be interested in such a poll. I mean, you see everywhere that people say IE is the most used browser with over 80% of the share, but I don't think that's true anymore. I'm a member at many communities, all of whom have a browser poll, and none of them have a majority IE vote. So I'm pretty sure that those ratings are incorrect, or you know, atleast amongst the better 'informed' people.
ripken204
well ide have to say its between IE and FF. no one ever hears about opera, even though i think its the best(or should i say its what i prefer the most).
no1none
Try K-Meleon (Mozilla-based like Firefox, without the bloat as in FF).
The only really secure browser, yet customizable for users beyond FF's possibilities smile.gif
And yes, I really mean *secure* browser biggrin.gif
Yet light enough to run (with tabs!) on a Pentium 166MHz / 32MB RAM Win95 computer biggrin.gif

Compare:

browser - currently known 'holes' - how many still unpatched

IE7 - 10 exist - 7 unpatched! http://secunia.com/product/12366/
IE6 - 113 exist - 20 unpatched! http://secunia.com/product/11/
FF2.x - 6 exist - 3 unpatched! http://secunia.com/product/12434/
FF1.x - 41 exist - 4 unpatched! http://secunia.com/product/4227/
Opera 9.x - 6 exist - 0 unpatched http://secunia.com/product/10615/
Opera 8.x - 15 exist - 0 unpatched http://secunia.com/product/4932/
Opera 7.x - 39 exist - 0 unpatched http://secunia.com/product/761/
K-Meleon 1.x - 0 exist - 0 unpatched http://secunia.com/product/12157/

Get K-Meleon HERE

smile.gif

/edit: added Opera 9 /
dirtwarrior
Does FF add ons work with it?
awergh
what about opera 9.x?
Mangix
i was thinking the same thing. where is Opera 9?
no1none
QUOTE (Mangix @ May 21 2007, 08:25 AM) *
i was thinking the same thing. where is Opera 9?


I edited previous post with Opera 9 now.
Jokez
QUOTE (no1none @ May 21 2007, 02:16 AM) *
Try K-Meleon (Mozilla-based like Firefox, without the bloat as in FF).
The only really secure browser, yet customizable for users beyond FF's possibilities smile.gif
And yes, I really mean *secure* browser biggrin.gif
Yet light enough to run (with tabs!) on a Pentium 166MHz / 32MB RAM Win95 computer biggrin.gif

Compare:

browser - currently known 'holes' - how many still unpatched

IE7 - 10 exist - 7 unpatched! http://secunia.com/product/12366/
IE6 - 113 exist - 20 unpatched! http://secunia.com/product/11/
FF2.x - 6 exist - 3 unpatched! http://secunia.com/product/12434/
FF1.x - 41 exist - 4 unpatched! http://secunia.com/product/4227/
Opera 9.x - 6 exist - 0 unpatched http://secunia.com/product/10615/
Opera 8.x - 15 exist - 0 unpatched http://secunia.com/product/4932/
Opera 7.x - 39 exist - 0 unpatched http://secunia.com/product/761/
K-Meleon 1.x - 0 exist - 0 unpatched http://secunia.com/product/12157/

Get K-Meleon HERE

smile.gif

/edit: added Opera 9 /


K-Meleon is nice, but doesn't feel right without mouse gestures. Any way of adding them?

EDIT:OHH SNAPP!! Never mind, I found them, lol.
ripken204
how do you know if any holes exist for k-melon? unless someone tries to hack it, i really dont see how anyone would find a hole?
no1none
QUOTE (ripken204 @ May 21 2007, 03:39 PM) *
how do you know if any holes exist for k-melon? unless someone tries to hack it, i really dont see how anyone would find a hole?



First of all, if a 'common hole' is found in one of the browsers (i.e. old JPEG vulnerability) it is immediately tried and tested on other browsers too.
I'm sure many of the 100+ holes in IE5/6 are probably "IE's proprietary holes" (specific to IE only), but if you check details on sites like secunia.com you'll find that some of the 'holes' are quite universal.

PS
I don't say there are no holes in K-Meleon at all... I'm pretty sure there must be a few newwink.gif
After all, no software is 100% bulletproof - with the exception of a computer NOT connected to anything (and without any input/output ports, and locked in safe so no one could touch it... biggrin.gif )
All I'm saying is that NO ONE HAS FOUND ANY HOLE IN K-MELEON YET. (or at least general public don't know of such event).
And you can be sure that the hundreds of known holes (found in other browsers) were all tried to be used against K-Meleon too - with no success smile.gif
ripken204
well my point is that its just like OS X. such a small % of ppl use it that it is pointless to try to hack it.
no1none
QUOTE (ripken204 @ May 22 2007, 10:41 AM) *
well my point is that its just like OS X. such a small % of ppl use it that it is pointless to try to hack it.


Yes exactly like with OS X, its this implied added security due to its small amount of users, that obviously no serious fcukheadhacker would waste his time to work on it, specially that i.e. IE6 (the most popular browser ATM) is like a swiss cheese and its users are basically sitting ducks waiting in the open and begging to be rooted newwink.gif

I'm not sure have I understood you correctly... I hope you don't hold it against K-Meleon? ohmy.gif
ripken204
QUOTE (no1none @ May 23 2007, 07:36 PM) *
QUOTE (ripken204 @ May 22 2007, 10:41 AM) *
well my point is that its just like OS X. such a small % of ppl use it that it is pointless to try to hack it.


Yes exactly like with OS X, its this implied added security due to its small amount of users, that obviously no serious fcukheadhacker would waste his time to work on it, specially that i.e. IE6 (the most popular browser ATM) is like a swiss cheese and its users are basically sitting ducks waiting in the open and begging to be rooted newwink.gif

I'm not sure have I understood you correctly... I hope you don't hold it against K-Meleon? ohmy.gif

no i agree with you. k-melon has a huge advantage of beign know by few, no one will want to hack it which will make you much much safer.
dirtwarrior
Has anyone used swift? It looks interesting but I done know how to install it. No exe. HUH
ripken204
QUOTE (dirtwarrior @ May 25 2007, 12:05 PM) *
Has anyone used swift? It looks interesting but I done know how to install it. No exe. HUH

it does look interesting, very interesting...
WereBo
My favourite browser is Mozilla's 'SeaMonkey', the next generation of Netscape Navigator. It has email, FTP, browsing and web-page composer, all-in-one suite.

The browser has tabbed windows and can use most of the Mozilla plug-ins.
ripken204
lol, im up to 39 tabs open!! almost 190mb. sould i make it 40 tabs? well i just did smile.gif
im writing up a large report so about 30 of the tabs is for that reason..
WereBo
QUOTE (ripken204 @ May 27 2007, 10:21 PM) *
lol, im up to 39 tabs open!! almost 190mb. sould i make it 40 tabs? well i just did smile.gif
im writing up a large report so about 30 of the tabs is for that reason..

39 tabs???? Does your monitor bulge at the sides??? blink.gif



Sheeesh!!! I rarely get above 6 - 8 on a busy day, but that's mostly forums and several google hits sites for what I'm doing in them
Google Internet Forums Unattended CD/DVD Guide
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.