Hey Guys!

I just joined Rosetta@Home: description below

Rosetta@home needs your help to determine the 3-dimensional shapes of proteins in research that may ultimately lead to finding cures for some major human diseases. By running the Rosetta program on your computer while you don't need it you will help us speed up and extend our research in ways we couldn't possibly attempt without your help. You will also be helping our efforts at designing new proteins to fight diseases such as HIV, Malaria, Cancer, and Alzheimer's - Rosetta@home

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Check out the site at http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ anyone interested in helping me out on this?? respond below with comments!

I got it up and running on my mostly unused desktop. Had a little trouble with the version of BOINC software in the Ubuntu repositories (it wouldn't abide by the CPU time limits I set. I installed the new version from their site and it's working well.
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The Rosetta research is definitely commendable, unlike the SETI project which is an exercise in futility IMO!

Hopefully there'll be more responses..

I just emailed Admin, so hopefully they can help us out and this can be an addition to the site! if i see more interest i will create a group for our members to join. If you find anyone else is interested have them post to this topic. Thanks

We had a team like this for something in the past. Might have been SETI; don't remember. There doesn't seem to be much support among our members for this one right now

We had a SETI team, and it died down. We had an uptime team, and that died down. We had several IRC channels, and they all died down. We also had personalized conference software, but that died down too.

I have a feeling this trend might continue...

*Sets his 3 computers to join Rosetta@Home*



EDIT - I just created a team for MSFN.org. I've got my three computers running on it, so all you need to do is join the team.

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/team_dis...php?teamid=5784

thats more like it, ill be joining this team... Who else is with me... CUMMMON Lets get this team rolling... can we have something mabye on the site now that we have a team? you never know the response if ya dont try

Just as a suggestion - when people sign up for their Rosetta@Home accounts, use your screenname from the forums. That way we can easily see who's who. If you decide to leave the group later, you can easily change your username back to whatever you please.

As a follow up... check this out. That's one system that I've got here at work... one of twenty like it. Once I've done my job of setting the systems up as they're needed, I'm going to get BOINC on each one of those systems and fire them up.

schroedinger (the main 8 core beast) just finished 440 credits worth of work in a matter of hours. For comparison, deathstar, my personal Athlon XP 2000+ system has done a total of 977 credits at the time of this posting, ever since I created this team last week.

With 20 of those crazy systems, there'll be nothing to stop us!

Ive been watching your progress.. VERY IMPRESSIVE! Think we could get something on the main page about this... seems like we need to get the word out alittle more then just in one thread if we really want to start a team..

I'm in the process of installing our real software on the other 19 nodes. Once that's done, I'll get BOINC on those. I have a feeling that these machines aren't going to be otherwise used to their full potential.

Too bad it uses BOINC soft, otherwise I would join with 1 or 2 machines.
I was with SETI@Home since the day one until they discontinued the old (called "classic" now LOL) and forced everyone to use BOINC.


(Oh, and I have nothing against BOINC, its just its not for my home network nor could I use it on work place machines unfortunately)

@no1none - Why do you say BOINC isn't for your home network? It's actually much easier to maintain, since all you need is the boinc executable and the .XML file for the project you're working on. I just added the other 19 machines in our cluster last night, and did it by copying 3 files over - the boinc executable, the boinc service script, and my rosetta XML file. After that, it was a matter of telling each machine to start the BOINC daemon.

As for your work machines, if you're worried about system administration, you can just tell them that it's for non-profit research groups, and doesn't affect overall system performance nor does it affect network security.

Especially for a few computers. The effort is well worth the end result in my eyes but...

@Zxian: how long are your units set to run for - i was thinking with your amount of machines we could really start finding decoys if ya set your run time alittle longer Mine currently varies between 6-8hrs each.

I just added 4 of my computers...

I fold already for Folding@Home.

But I could probably set one up for Rosetta@Home on a spare computer.

Folding@Home and Rosetta@Home are similar projects, but their research focuses are different.

Rosetta@Home vs Folding@Home

Move all your computers to R@H!

Hello Hello. Come on guys, join up. Zxian's credit is dropping and we need people to start picking up the slack. It won't affect your computer's performance.

fillalph

Mine's fallen too. I had to remove BOINC from all of my work computers since I've finished up for the summer.

I'm gonna bump this up again, by saying that I've added my Q6600 system to the mix. I can crunch out a four 100 credit work units in 6 hours, so that makes about 1600 credit per day. You can see my recent progress here. I only got eclipse (my new machine) running on Friday night really, so that's how long it's been running for.

i added my Q6600 to the msfn.org team and my primary pc+BOINC is on for about 6hrs a day on a weekday and more on weekends

i'm thinking of adding my old Celeron 800mhz pc thats running as a file and printer server on my mini home network (running on ubuntu). do you think it would be worth running r@h on it or would it be a waste of time since it's too... what's the word... rubbish? and it's also juggling file and printer sharing.

and 1600 credits/day!!!! whoa zxian!! but then again if i left my Q6600 on all day i might be able to get that... but i have to appease my parents *shrugs*

File and printer sharing isn't that heavy work, so most of the time, it'd be crunching numbers. If it's already running, set R@H to run on that sucker. Every little bit helps.

You'd have to appease your parents because... of the electrical bill? I really think they should only be concerned about that if they're the type to turn off everything and all the lights (my parents are). Don't get me wrong, I'm all for saving electricity where I can, but at the current cost of electricity and considering how much I spend on other things, the additional electricity is really a minimal hit on my budget.

I'm just hoping they fix one of the problems in their bloody work units... it keeps crapping out on me, and then giving me a dinky 20 credits regardless of how much work the system has actually done (claims 200, gets 20 - that kinda thing).

no i have to appease my parents because they really don't like my pc on, much less on all day.

i'll set up R@H on it later. i wonder how well it'll perform...
EDIT the coppermine performs like crap, the c2q can get through 17 tasks in the time the coppermine takes for 1. running on ubuntu feisty. i shouldn't have expected too much from such a low end, old cpu.

@clidx - Keep that beast running! You have the potential to jump to the #2 spot with that one system alone! My RAC is at 1330 right now, and it's on the rise. I'm hoping that I'll hit 1500 before it levels out.

I've got another E2160 system that's going to start crunching soon (hopefully tomorrow). That'll be another 500 RAC machine at least (my current E2160 cruncher hit 520 before the project's SAN failure).

I would help, but I don't have an extra computer...

Zxian - you're a mod, why not sticky this to get more attention? Actually, maybe this should go in the Member Contributed Projects area?

@Idontwantspam - Why not use your main computer? You think I built this system just for crunching Rosetta work units?

I've got my file server, my home workstation, and my university workstation (the new E2160 machine) all crunching for me. My ex's home computer is also running R@H, but I don't think she knows... oh well.

I suppose I could sticky this... I was also going to ask if anyone wanted to try to make an official MSFN Rosetta@Home team banner - you know, one of those 300x20 signature bars. Any takers?

'Cause I don't have a main box. I've got a lappy, and I don't leave it on while I'm at school. Usually. As for school... I don't see that going over well with the sysadmins, and I certainly don't have the power to do anything like that myself. As for the user bars... they sound like a good idea, but I won't be able to have one. Sorry...

Yea... laptops suck for crunching R@H... I stopped running mine, since it was only on for a few hours each day.

As for school.... you could talk to the sysadmins about this. Depending on how strict they are, they might allow it, as long as you tell them that it's for a non-profit group, and doesn't affect overall system performance.

I could try... they're not very forgiving/flexible.

like i said, i have to keep my pc off as much as possible, at least at night. now i just say i'm doing homework when in reality rosetta is crunching away and i'm doing something else.
nice to see this got a sticky

and the coppermine's cpu died... i've had 2 cpus dying on me in a 30 day period (my old P4 anyone...). i bought a new celeron 468 (still 800mhz, it was really cheap though) but ubuntu won't boot... and the only task rosetta got close to completing on it has to go since i reformatted my hdd
i'm not gonna run rosetta on it since it takes about a day for it do complete it. 1 task. 1 day...

The task length is set in your preferences for R@H. A task can run for as short as 1 hour, or as long as 24 hours. I've currently got my top computers running for 12 hour tasks, and the less powerful ones are set to 6 hours.

EDIT - If anyone with decent Photoshop skills would like to contribute, here's a thread for a signature bar for the MSFN R@H Team.

I was looking at the BOINCstats for our team and realized something incredible...

We passed the 1,000,000 overall credit mark!!!

This includes the previous SETI@Home team's score. For Rosetta@Home, we've got about 825,000 credit at the moment. We're slowly but surely working our way up in the ranks.

ehhh 1 average credit away from beating gamehead200. c'mon my dear brand new Q6600 G0 you can do it!!

anyway I just wanted to ask, is there some sort of portable version of BOINC? i know there probably isn't since it writes and reads a lot from a hdd but it would be good since i'm often in the computer rooms at my school... *ahem* doing homework...
or would you not recommend it anyway even if there was one, since my usb stick would probably only live out half it's life?

Just installed BOINC and joined the MSFN.ORG team..

Excellent! Tell all your friends about the project as well. I've managed to get a bunch of classmates to join the team as well - you can probably spot the ones who aren't MSFN members...

I don't mind you beating me... The computers that gained all of my credit were ones at my summer job. I had to uninstall BOINC before I left.

Cool.

So who is using the Rossetta data? University labs? Big pharma?

ok im sorry if i cant sem to get this right but,how can someone help with this project and install their software and dont lose any system or network performance? cause i like to help and my home sytem is up and running 24/7...

It's a research lab at the University of Washington.

Network performance loss is negligible. When I run iperf benchmarks on my home network, I'll drop from 990Mbps to about 980Mbps when running R@H on both client and server machines (the two sides of the iperf benchmark).

System performance also shouldn't be an issue. The Rosetta@Home clients always run at Low priority (nice=19 on linux systems). I haven't run any specific benchmarks, but I doubt that you'd notice any slowdowns from running the software. The only catch is that you'd need to dedicate about 150-200MB of RAM per CPU core that you allow to run R@H.

Got a couple of "oldies" I intend to run w98 on. Will check sysrqmts to see if R@H will run on them. Would tie them into main PC using ICS; don't know if there's a bandwidth issue with ISP using such a setup. (Don't stay up more than 12 hrs/day...)

Made this post to mark it for future reference (and so I won't forget...).

downloaded, installed and registered hope my old lappy can contribute something to the world of knowledge.

For all those interested in helping out, but don't have the requirements for Rosetta@Home, you can contribute to other projects as well for the general MSFN.org BOINC team!

Join the MSFN.org BOINC team!

I use to use this, but i reinstalled my pc and never installed it back on again. idk, isnt there a way where i can turn it on while I am sleeping and while i am at school?

You can set BOINC to only run when the computer is idle for a certain amount of time. Just wondering though... why wouldn't you let it run all the time? There are projects that don't require a lot of resources, and the work units always run at low priority, so they don't affect your overall computing.


As a side note to all those still running Rosetta - have their new versions been less buggy than before? I was having several processes of Rosetta sit there doing no work until I manually killed them... I've moved over to Einstein@Home now, partially because I like the research a bit more, and their software has been much more stable than Rosetta.