About the id of the stick chip, see this post of mine:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=18804

It seems like the manufacturer is:
http://www.skymedi.com.tw/eng-index.html
http://www.skymedi.com.tw/products/sk6201.htm

and that the same stick is sold as GXT at
http://www.valgear.com

jaclaz

Maximus Decim Native USB ver.3.0
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*Native (without installation of additional drivers for each type) support USB flash drives, digital photo
and videocameras and other similar devices.
*Universal Stack USB 2.0 (without installation of additional drivers for each chipsets) with uninstall.
1.Remove ALL drivers USB flash drives.
2.Remove ALL drivers USB 2.0 controllers.
3.Remove ALL unknown devices.
4.Install NUSB 3.0 and reboot.
5.After detection new USB 2.0 controllers (if it will occur) too it is necessary to be reboot.
Remember! You install it at own risk!

Thanks Walter Oney (wdmstub.sys)
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English: http://rapidshare.com/files/17516502/nusb30e.exe.html
Russian: http://rapidshare.com/files/17516399/nusb30r.exe.html

What's new?
*Add universal USB 2.0 stack (for VIA, nVidia, Intel, ATI/AMD, ALi/ULi, SiS, Nec) with uninstall
*Remove USB FDD support
*New USBSTOR.SYS (5.0.2195.6655 - Windows 2000SP4) and wdmstub.sys (Thanks Walter Oney)
*Add CnMemory USB device

excellent! What happens if we don't unload all the drivers? Some are tricky to find if you don't have your certain device connected....

thank you.

@jaclaz

Thanks for this! Anyway, it is still VERY confusing. Now there are 3 different manufacturers in the game:

1. Skymedi, which seems to be the manufacturer of the chip,
2. Lexar ("VID_05DC"?),
3. ValGear.

I get "VID_1516" as the vendor ID-number, so it does not seem to be Lexar? Confused. And in addition the read/write speed of the CnMemory stick seems to be significantly lower than the Skymedi specifications:

CnMemory: http://www.cnmemory.de/core.htm
Skymedi : http://www.skymedi.com.tw/products/sk6201.htm

Pirates

This post has been edited by Pirates: Feb 21 2007, 09:05 AM

Hey Maximum-Decim. Nice with a new release
Could you upload the .SED-file for v3.0 somewhere, so others are able to build localized versions of NUSB?

do I need a localized version of wdmstub.sys?

This post has been edited by jonazz: Feb 21 2007, 12:11 PM

@Pirates

No, Lexar is out of the "game", the post on 911CD I referred to was a sequel to a few e-mails I had with wm_raim, wher he cleared that he was trying with TWO sticks, one a Lexar With Vid 05DCh and Pid 0080h and the other one the GXT with Vid 1516h Pid 8628h.

Sorry for the mix-up.

Usually the manufacturer of the chip has his own Vid/Pid, when he sells his product to the makers of the flash stick, he gives them an utility to change Vid/Pid to that of the stick manufacturer (if he has one), as a cascade, when the stick manufacturer actually tests the stick he has the option to insert the Vid/Pid (if any) of the Commercial company that has the "Brand" name and that actually sells the stick on the market.

Acquiring a Vid is relatively easy and cheap:
http://www.usb.org/developers/vendor/
while the Pid is an internal code, that in some cases is "meaningful", i.e. OtI sticks have Pid 2168 if they use chip 2168, Pid 6828 uses chip 6828, etc., but as soon as they developed various versions or "updates" of the chip, it agains loses significance, as an example, if I recall correctly, there is a "F" version of the 2168 and a "G" version with added features that cannot be distinguished by Pid.

Given the above it is easy to envision a scenario where Vid can mean:
1) Chip manufacturer (most of them)
2) Stick manufacturer (I think few of them that payed the $2000/$4,000.00 fee)
3) Commercial vendor of stick (I think still fewer that payed the $2000/$4,000.00 fee)

About speed, I cannot say, but the reference to 23x on the cnmemory.de site could be related to the 23.1 Speed on the skymedi site?

Speed of a flash device appears to be something "unmeasurable" without a standard, however the Ratio between 31.1 whatever for Read Access and 21.3 whatever for Write Access seems just not right

Check these:
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2549
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/flash.ars/1
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/flash2005.ars

for a speed comparison and to see how much speed is influenced on size of what you are reading/writing.

In your case I think that we fall in point 1) above, where two different commercial companies, valgear with its brand GXT and cnmemory with it's own name offer on the market sticks that mantain the Vid of the Chip manufacturer (and use the chip manufacturer driver for Win98).

jaclaz

P.S.: Sorry if I am somehow hijacking this thread....

Hi Maximum-Decim.

Thank you for the new version.

I second what Jonazz wrote a couple of posts earlier.
A .sed file would be really nice for the new version, so it is possible to compile versions with other languages.
Please!, Cause I'm looking forward to try a newer and even better version than Nusb221da.

Will USBVIEW.exe be added and will explorer.exe be upgraded to the newer version?

NUSB 3.0 SED-file

http://rapidshare.com/files/17656661/nusb30e.SED.html

Can I just say.... "Mate you are a champion!!!"


I am sure like many others, your USB patch, along with the works by LLXX, MDGx and many others, is the only reason we can still viably use Windows 98 SE as a productive work horse and not just a sentimental hobby machine!!!


Thankyou

Hi, Maximus, thanks support NTFS But is wrong, that isn't integrated in installation NUSB all needed DLL and EXE / NTFS (Ntoskrnl.exe, ntfs.sys, ntfschk.exe, Ntdll.dll, .....)

This post has been edited by Philco: Feb 22 2007, 09:00 AM

Hey Maximus can you pretty please start updating your first post with the latest info?

It would be very nice and helpfull.

Also if you want a real mirror I am happy to provide one.

Available Maximus Decim Native USB ver.3.0 / Translation Czech:

Download: http://windows98.ic.cz/usb/nusb30cs.exe or www.winpack.org (CZ)

This post has been edited by Philco: Feb 27 2007, 10:54 AM

Is it safe to attempt to install the new 3.0 (supposed to give Hi-Speed) over previous v2.3 or v2.4?

For those of you who don't like to download from Rapidshare, the latest versions are also here:

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

I'm sorry but I don't have the time to read through 13 thread pages. I have a Kingston U3 flash memory device and a Sandisk Sansa m230 mp3 player. None of them support Windows 98 and I need to get either of them to work on that; preferably the Kingston memory. I found a link to this thread on another forum; they said I could find a basic driver on the 1st post of this thread. I tried that, but the link doesn't work. It says "file not found". Quickly looking through the pages of this thread, I found several other links posted and I have no time to read what they're all about, so if someone please could help me or provide me a link to a basic driver for use of my devices for simple storage, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
PS: I have Windows 98 not 98SE. Will that work ??

This post has been edited by toxic_97: Feb 24 2007, 08:55 AM

use the link found on MDGx's site: http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#9SU, but that's an old version, so use the link in the post above yours.

the_guy

Try the link I posted in the post before yours....

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

The drivers should work, so long as you have Windows 98SE

are some of the new files changing the language, if they are not localized versions?

http://rapidshare.com/files/18379200/nusb30da.exe.htmll updated, forgot to replace english hotplug.dll
Here's my try of a danish versions of 3.0. It should be working perfectly unless any of the new files in localized versions are required.

This post has been edited by jonazz: Feb 26 2007, 08:27 AM

French Version 3.0 available here:

http://www.filefactory.com/file/47a052/