this site is great but i still need some help. it seems that www.cdshell.org is offline and was wondering if someone could point me in the direction to where i could find cd shell, boot scripter or something else that will work to make a multi boot cd/dvd menu for windows xp based operating systems to anyone that was reading my post i did a little more searching and found the files that i needed to finish up what i was doing and thanks to all who put all this info out on the web