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Only for the record: I use a MBO Gigabyte GA-945GCM-S2L, and neither Gigabyte nor Intel, the chipset manufacturer, provide any drivers at all for Windows 98. In spite of that I installed Windows 98 thanks to the tutorials of cannie as a second OS (the comp has 1 GB memory), but only for cloning and maintenance purposes of XP. Even so the experience pays. HTH. PS: The links for the tutorials are: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=118623 http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=129983

Wow! I'll try all that. Thank you very much, dencorso.

Your video problems may be solved by using Bearwindows free Universal VESA/VBE Video Display Driver. Read also this thread for more on it: Asus Eee PC and Windows 9x. Your sata problems require RLoew's (beta) SATA.INF... It's not free, but IMHO it's worth the cost. For more about it, check his site. Good luck! I've used Bearwindows free with excellent results. I found it here. I wonder if it could be possible to find also a valid USB driver for a Gigabyte motherboard. Thanks.

AFAIK it can only be used if you run Windows 98 from a HD to repair another HD, but never if you only have a single HD. If you try it under dualboot and two XP primary partitions, as explained in this tutorial, Windows 98 doesn't work any more as soon as you convert to NTFS any of both XP units.

As I said in a previous post, I have installed Windows 98 doubleboot having a Gigabyte 945GCM-S2L motherboard. Sound, video, USB and net cards are embedded into it and there are no traces of Windows 98 drivers at all in the manufacturer's install CD. Nevertheless I installed the universal video driver which I found in a post of this forum and it works perfect, and that's why I dare to ask, could it be possible to find any other drivers for network, USB or sound? Thanks.

Sure . See if reading "between the lines" of these: http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=19663 http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...ic=8233&hl= is enough to get you started. It might be advisable to start a new thread for this specific topic (and post here a reference to it). jaclaz Wow! There's a lot of information upon there! I'll try to "digest" it... Thanks, jaclaz!

I've copied Windows XP into drive K using Windows 98 to do the changes offline, and I'm trying to find out what comes next. May I have your advice? Thanks.

In the Nienhuis page there is a procedure for "Changing Win2K's system (boot) drive letter" which IMHO could also be used as a way for cloning XP. Even when it is considerably more difficult to implement it than the simple change of active partition, it would eventually be useful i.e to allow booting the second XP unit from the same doubleboot screen without changing the active partition. It would be interesting to know if anybody has already done it.

I forgot to say that I'm using a motherboard Gigabyte 945GCM-S2L, no drivers at all for Windows 98 but the video generic one that I found in this forum. I use Windows 98 only for maintenance, backup, cloning etc. I always used XP and keep using it as before, but I feel much better being "out of the trap".

If you use an ATA HD it is easy. For SATA you may find also a solution in the precedent post of dencorso. In my own experience I installed it recently after a failure in my SATA HD. I felt tired of reinstalls and replaced it by a new ATA HD. I had no problems at all with the install process, and after it I used the video generic driver mentioned in the first post of this thread with excellent results. I use Windows 98 on doubleboot, only for disk and XP maintenance purposes. I find it great because, even when I keep using XP as I always did, the maintenance operations are done in a much easier and faster way from outside. And having a "second chance" cloned XP to override inmediately any OS failure means a complementary solution, fast and secure. I found the way to do it here: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=118623

I didn't notice it. Well, it was my fault: this is a good way. BTW there's another tutorial which was very useful to me and IMHO it deserves to be included in that "brick road" to avoid being lost: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=118623

It is also important that Windows 98 users know that they have the possibility of installing it using memory up to 4 GB. After a 5 pages search in this thread I've found it here: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...mp;#entry858978 IMHO tutorials and information should be kept at easy reach for any forum visitor.

Thank you for your answer, rloew, and thank you for your excellent work giving this opportunity to all us who know the real value of Windows 98!

I'm considering the convenience of increasing memory to 2GB. Is rloew's patch enough for it or it is needed to do anything more? Thanks! BTW I wonder why this thread is not placed as important so that it may be found easily by any visitor of this forum. I had difficulties to reach it because it was 5 pages behind the current one. IMHO this is one of the most relevant things in this forum looking towards the future use of Windows 98.

@BenoitRen "most people don't even know what an operating system is." You are totally right.

I went back to XP, and also moved backwards to older versions of Nero, Acrobat, IE, Firefox, and several other programs after using them and verifying that the only "advantage" for me was in using an increasingly more bloated product to do the same old things. I like progress, but I try to have it clear in my mind what means progress just for me and for my daily needs. My needs are not the needs of Microsoft.

I've changed my HD because it was damaged and installed a Maxthor 80 GB ATA instead. Thanks dencorso and cannie for your help!

I've moved to FAT32 and installed both OS. It works perfect. Thanks!

You may substract 1 from 2 using trigonometrical functions and algebra, or by a simple substraction. An OS is nothing but a complex algorythm, not good or bad, nor new or old, but convenient or not convenient for actual needs. In the computer industry big money was made initially by fulfilling elemental user's needs in a direct way. Later on, more and more complex procedures are used to do the same things, requiring in many cases incompatible hardware and taking profit of the facilities given by the fact that most of the spare parts come from asian countries where there are no limits to speculative product shortages. The warm "cooperation" of the asian partners, providers of more than 85% of the hardware that we all use every day, allowed that one month after the end of Windows 98 support, a totally correct decision of Microsoft, it were almost impossible to find several essential compatible spare parts in the local dealers to repair your Windows 98 computer. If Microsoft creates a not compatible OS it is excellent news and it means a scientific advance because I think it allows more possibilities in many fields, as algebra or trigonometry do, even when it doesn't mean any advance for simple tasks. Simple tasks and home computers are not all in the computing field. But you may be sure that next day their spontaneous "friends" of the asian countries will stop providing spare parts for XP and even for Vista to home users. I don't need Microsoft support to go on using Windows 98, but can't keep using it if I don't find spare parts. Only four months after the Microsoft decision I could not repair my laptop and had to buy a new one. This never happened to me when I had to repair any of the cars I owned, even when one of them was 7 years old.

No need to copy back anything: you may choose between the two at start and use any of them for a complete repair of the other one in a few minutes: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=118623

An old and loyal work partner for a whole generation, better than any other for simple needs. Transparent and clear, and with an excellent performance, being cared and loved by many people, and in special by the members of this forum. In this moment the best support for Windows XP for those who can run both in the same computer. Best wishes to all Windows 98 users.

For a moment I thought you could have the same problem I had with Windows 98. I wish you can install XP in your new machine. I also love the "oldie". Cheers

Is there any possibility to install Windows 98 in a SATA HD ? I have 1 GB memory. Thank you.

Sadly, if they do that, they would have hard time justifying new OSs. So, from their perspective, they have to put new junk in. It applies to any software (see Nero, Acrobat...) When it becomes successful, it starts to bloat beyond proportion... Dammit. GL They want you to buy and buy and buy..... It is your fault if you get lured by anything new only because it is new even against your own interests and needs. When any product becomes successful and starts to bloat beyond proportion, then it's just the time to go back and recover the old version of the same product, and also the time to lend no ears any more to further ads.

Is it possible to clone XP the same way if you use a SATA HD and NTFS? Thanks.