Thanks again, Kelsenellenelvian. But for the sakes of misery, the Vista is installed and so are many programs... Hib is always off for me, 6GB ram I have actually written a bat file to turn hib on/off. .Net 3.5 update fails, thank GOD Using about 1GB ram-disk, all temp files reside there, and so is the page file (16MB) which is not used by the system. So, M$ has done a perfect job not letting ppl remove the ultimate components ... How many space is needed for Win7?