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  1. The most easy to handle boards are with the 970A chipset - i have two of those running. But it's not only the chipset, the layout is as important also - you need two PS/2-ports for ease of use, a PCI-slot for audio add-in, a PCIe-1x for LAN, and a compatible PCIe-GPU. I use an SSD on port 5, and a DVD on port 6, in compatibility-mode (which works very well). It works with any other modern OS on port 1-4 in SATA-mode (tried with XP, W7, W10, Ubuntu 64-bit LTS, and SteamOS (! only with a second, modern GPU !). If you want to use the SATA-ports in W98SE in true SATA-mode, you'll need RLoews SATA-patch - can't say if this is better, as i don't own that patch, but many say it is great. For GPU i recommend an ATI Radeon x800 PCIe 256MB. If you want to use an NVidia-GPU, you absolutely need corresponding RLoew NVidia-GPU-driver-patch ($20,--) - then, i recommend the 7600GT PCIe 256MB, or the 7900 GTX PCIe 512MB. For Audio i recommend the SB Audigy PCI or SB Audigy 2 PCI - used via ebay for about $5 to $8. Only the original old ones, actually, not any "XE"-variant or whatsoever. For LAN i recommend any PCIe-1x Gigabit card with the RTL 8111B chipset. Should be available brand-new.
  2. I had exactly that MoBo. While W98SE was technically possible on it, in the end the layout made a "full" sysxtem (for playing games) impossible. Can't recall the details, but it was not fun. I gave it back, and ordered something else (some used P35-Full-ATX-board from GigaGyte - consult the "motherboards running with more than 1 GB Ram-thread). If you want W98SE and XP (and nothing newer) you can get the ASRock 775i65G R3.0 brand new - it uses AGP and DDR400, though, and cannot use a 1333-CPU.
  3. Thank you!!! I'm just back from a long journey. Unfortunately, the board for which i needed this was DOA and sent to the merchant for RMA. When the board is back (i ordered the same again), I'll contact you.
  4. Which was the exact version of the driver you are using? I recommed this driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_77.72.html Your card has 256MB of memory, and not 512, does it?
  5. Asus does not deliver drivers for the mainboard for W9x (you already know that, right?). I heard of noone using this chipset with W9x. You will have probably have problems with the chipset (unrecognized devices) when using the basic drivers of W9x. Sometimes boards can still be used, so you may try, but you might need skills with inf-file modding... Please report of your results.
  6. Sorry for the confusion. Your PC has enough power in terms of wattage. I just wanted to say, that graphics card will be the "fastest" device in your system, and has a chance to be bogged down by the "inadequate" speed of other components (i.e. CPU, PCI-bus,...) in your computer. It's like putting a race-horse before your waggon instead of a cow, and wondering, why it will not go with full speed - until you recognize your waggon has small wheels made of uneven wooden. So it just MAY be, that your CPU (your Pentium III with 800 MHz, i guess) will not deliver enough data to the GPU (= graphics card) to allow for it's full potential. Another CPU (like, Pentium III with 1000 MHz) MIGHT allow for 10%-12% more pictures per second with the GeForce 6200. It still is the best choice, though, as with any other card you will have slower games. In other words: Your waggon will be faster with the racing horse than with the cow, so it still is recommended, but not as much as could be with a chariot instead of a waggon... :-) (I'm not a native speaker, so PLEASE forgive me if this sounds strange, or worse...
  7. [SPAM] Funny, i had a similar kind of discussion just yet: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3166883/pci-express-card-win98.html I recommend a GeForce 6200 PCI with 256 MB (over a VooDoo 3). They are easy and comparably cheap to get on *bay, and have a mature driver for DX 9.0c and W95. Your CPU migth be some kind of bottleneck for graphics performance, i think.
  8. Rant only important for legacy-gamers: All games that run with W9x have been developed with a GF 6800 with 256MB in mind, because that was just the fastest card for W9x/ME ever WHILE GAMES WERE STILL DEVELOPED FOR THAT SYSTEM. Using a faster card with more memory therefore only makes sense, if you dual-boot with any other OS, where you depend on this card as well. Same is true for CPU, where a fast P4 was the best you could expect as a game developer. Because when you developed with a Quad-Core and a GF 8xxx and up, you developed for and on XP. If i'd have to build another pure W9x system, I still prefer cards from the GF 7xxx series, and use the according patched and inofficial driver, as i.e. the 7600 GT (AGP as well as PCIe) has performance close to some GF 6800 GT, but can be cooled passively, and (PCIe only) doesn't need an auxiliary power cord. For the same reason i prefer an AMD Athlon II X? or Intel Core2Duo over an Intel P4: Less power, less heat, less noise. Still, a P4 and a GF 6800 will give no worse gaming experience on W9x. Here as with other modern equipment, an SSD will make so much more fun (given you don't work on it every day, 'cause no trim and higer degradation).
  9. Add to the list: ASRock 970 Pro3 R2.0 ASRock 890FX Deluxe5 See my post "Research on AM3+ board and chipsets: Resume" for more details...
  10. For a start, try out, if you have both, but don't use licenses yet, use the "test phase" to try out first. If you don't have problems with "just" one PS/2-port, i'd start with the 990FXA. But My Personal Problem(tm): I just speculated on that chipset, i did not try that one out, so: Don't sue me! But both don't have "perfect" layout: The FXA has two true 16x 2.0 slots - but unfortunately, one of them is adjacent to the PCI-slot. This means, if you build in a W98SE-compatible soundcard (which is always PCI), you can only use a 1-slot PCIe-GPU as your second graphics-card, if you want to use the Dual-GPU-stunt. This can mean some comprimise in the selection, and will put some heat to the soundcard as well. It also has one of it's SATA-ports as eSATA, and i don't know if it's one of the "Legacy"-compatible ports - this is not on the homepage. If you want to use a HDD/SSD for W98SE, AND an ODD, this might be a real problem. So the GigaByte board might only be the better choice if you want to force the Dual-GPU stunt without buying a new board, and then still you may waste some time. If you DON'T want to use a second, faster GPU for other operating systems, the ASRock board is better, as it uses less power, and produces less heat at the same time. Otherwise, it is pretty the same featurewise. I have nearly the same board (you saw that probably in the test), and it's quite ok. It has the better layout regarding PS/2-ports, as you already mentioned, and also has all 6 SATA-ports onboard, which maybe better in comparison for using both ODD and HDD together on W98SE, as mentioned above. Does that help already, or do you need more input?
  11. That's it, folks.
  12. On the Dual-GPU-stunt This is not something new, and definitely not my invention, but it is such a convenient method for Multi-booters to enable their W98SE-machine for gaming, i cannot but present it here. The problem: I have a card compatible with W98SE. All is good. I want a fairly actual machine - which is possible now! - that longs for W10 - a FX 6300 and up, and a board with SATA3, and an SSD, and enough money for a good GPU... My momentary GPU may be good for W98SE, but, most probably, it is only barely sufficiant for W10(/XP), or, even worse, does not have driver for W10. How to combine this? You need a board with two PCI 16x slots - almost very ATX-board with AMD-chipset has one of those, AMD is very proud of Crossfire... but this also works good enough on many Intel-P45 boards. Put the W98SE-card in the primary slot, connect it to VGA, boot, install everything (XP an W10, too), install all patches (yes, ALL of them, work until everything is done). W98SE only boots from the primary slot, so, yes, there is no choice. Put the modern Gaming-Card into the secondary slot, connect it to any other port of the same Monitor (i.e. DVI-D), install the driver on XP (if you want) and W10 (in any case), reboot. Now, set bind your desktop to the secondary card in "Display settings", if still necessary, reboot. You will get a blank sceen, once the machine gets to the start of the Windows Desktop. Switch off and On the monitor, or switch the input-setting or your Monitor (depends on drivers and card which is necessary, works more covenient with cards with mutually exclusive drivers, as i.e. old ATI and new AMD card together, or old and very new NVidia card together). You can now safely disable the "slower" card in system settings on XP or W10, and the "faster" card on W98SE. With boards, of which the secondary PCIe-slot is only 2.0 4x, your faster card will have a fps-reduction in the range of 5% to 20%. The extent very much depends on your card, selected screen-resolution for the game, and the game itself. This can only be avoided on some boards with setting the 4x slot as primary (which does not work on most newer boards, because of lazy BIOS-programmers), or by buying a board that provides their secondary PCIe-slot with 8x or 16x, even better PCIe 3.0 instead of PCIe 2.0. Remember to build in a power-brick with enough Watts, depending on your cards. You CAN nowadays have a good experience and FullHD gaming with modern cards (and old cards) without any additional PCIe-power-cables, though, as with a Geforce 7600GT PCIe and (some) GeForce GTX 950, or an ATI x800 and one of those nice upcoming low-power Polaris GPUs, or possible upcoming NVidia 10x0. Choose well. This method henceforth be known as the "Dual-GPU-stunt"...
  13. On Miscallaenus necessary Hardware I used a good measure of Geforce 6xxx and 7xxx cards, as well as an ATI x800. If you want to Dual-boot with W10, and don't intend on using the Dual-GPU-stunt, go for the NVidia GTX 7900 with 512MB. You will ned the patch of RLoew, for BOTH reasons (NVSize AND INTR-Fix), though, so: $$$. But heck, this card can even be passively cooled, i.e. with an Accelero S2 Re. 2. And even with active cooling, my EVGA-cards are near-silent. I did not try SLI yet (Maybe even for W98SE? Who knows?), but will do that soon. The x800 is a good card for the Dual-GPU-stunt, but not as a perfect single cards, even if it works ok in 2D mode, as it lacks a driver for W10 having DX-support. I already reported on the PS/2-USB2-combo card for PCI. This would have been perfect to solve a problem with the GA-870A-USB3, having only the dreaded "combo-port". But, alas, doesn't work at all. PS/2-split cables are wasted money on those board as well, as its the boards restriction making the use of two PS/2-devices on the same board impossible. For the 870A-chipset, and possibly the 880G chipset as well, you need a compatible USB2-AddIn card, especially if you only have one PS/2-port, as you have no choice then. I use this one: https://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/USB-2/Card/7-Port-PCI-USB-Card-Adapter~PCIUSB7 ...as its chipset is cross-compatible with W98SE and W10, and has both internal and external USB2-ports en masse. For soundcard, i can only recommend the Audigy 1 or 2 PCI, as they were the best and latest for W98SE, and as with Alchemy, they are cross-compatible with W98SE and W10. You can get a lot of them via ebay, and they're pretty cheap right now. For those - like me - prefering silent systems, you have a problem with this platform, as many chipsets need a top-blower for good cooling. So, if you are like that, choose well...
  14. AMD 770 Tested on: ASRock 980DE3/U3S3 R2.0, ASRock 770iCafe (seemingly made especially for South-Korean Internet-Cafes... i bought this from a refurbisher from Seoul...) These cheap boards have many nice features for W98SE, very often two PS/2-ports, compatible LAN-cipsets, IDE-ports, Floppy-ports, whatnot... Unfortunately, even with everything onboard switched off, W98SE on these boards was instable, even on safe mode, without any indication of causes. Unless someone with too much time and money looks for it, i'd stronly advise against those for W98SE. These ARE good AND cheap boards for XP and W10, though, if you want the AM3+ platform, i.e. because you are a student on a tight budget.
  15. AMD 880G Not tested yet, as i did not find boards with a good layout yet, and as the special feature of this chipset - onboards graphics - is wasted on W98SE.