ragnargd

Hi, Dietmar, do you have any link pointing at which Hardware is supported by Ramsey XP? I'm especially interested in HW (esp. CPU and MoBo) that is cross-compatible with W11. Yes, even if it exists, secureboot... fTPM 2.20... XP might choke on that... but that maybe subject to experiments... Cheers,

The Xeons you mention are Sandy Bridge, the i7-4???X are Ivy Bridge. Yes, that is the last officially supported CPU Generation. Btw.: Good link to that video, some hope remains.

Wise words. I cannot guarantee the security of the links, but my detectors didn't go red. As always: Shields up! ...maybe the youtube links bears slightly less risk, as it is up for several years. Ah, yes, context: The first link is proving evidence that W95 became an evil AI after being dropped by M$. The video is completely unrelated, but a bit evil as well, if i may say, which relates to its popularity in britain and the US.

Beware... https://windows95tips.com/#_=_ In case you don't remember, the blogger is also famous for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx1XIm6q4r4

Shamelessly stolen from IgorsLab (successor of TomsHardwareGuide in Germany):

I had a week of training by Didier Stevens (about pdf-hacking), and i think that man has quite some proven record of competence regarding security. He knows how to apply some really nasty hacks. I read the blog-entry, and think what is there will motivate security-aware people to disable the webdav-client even on other old OS than XP. I'd be very, very careful with W7 already, but with a patched W10, it should be safe. I don't use anything below W10, unless it is blocked on my router, and confined to a virtual network. For anyone knowing what they are doing regarding hardening, some old OS might still suffice, but for myself, i'm not that good, therefore i don't take risks.

Regarding NV 980 and NV 970 see this, i own one 980 and two 970 (SLI), both work well, SLI won't work on XP though (while it does on W10 in a dual-boot config): I recommend the GTX 980 with this driver as the "fastest" GPU for XP --> that actually makes sense <-- ... (a GTX 980 Ti with 6GB on a modded driver sounds nice, but i can hardly find a rational over the 980)

I did my own experiements with Ryzen and XP - "running" is not the same as "running games on it". I'd rather not invest time, less money, on that horse. With Ivy bridge, i have the latest CPU-type officially supporting XP (including Socket 1356 and 2011 type Xeons and the like). With everything else later on, even if you feel a bit more adventurous, drivers become scarce. But even there, i7-6xxx is the newest reported to run. And includes heavy modding for ACPI, UEFI. AHCI, and stuff. I had more --> modern <-- systems semi-running W98SE than XP, but W11-compatible hardware is far out. But let's see, who comes up with what.... MSFN always surprised me in the past...

Yeah, possible, i have XP 64 here as well. Unfortunately, many games that work in XP 32 bit, won't work on XP 64bit. Very often they DO run, but the installers are still 16bit (which works in XP 32bit), and so you have problems getting them installed. So, sometimes 64bit is a solution, sometimes it is not. But intel core start the generation AFTER core 7700K, and that is pretty new, many things just six years old. W11 and XP seem to be mutually exclusive atm.

Hi, i hereby declare this thread the #1 candidate for the most depressing threads on this forum - your mileage may vary, maybe depending on your definition of funny, yay .... \o/ I have three PCs in service, and one PC at my dauthters flat, that are capable of running W10 and XP in dual boot, and of those, two actually do (my best rig thereof has two GTX970 in SLI - SLI working in W10 only, of course, glad the GTX970 works with inf-modding under XP -, SB XiFi 4, all have an i7-3770 Ivy bridge, you know in drill: Max performance, while staying dual-boot compatible, for optimum experience with games that are a tad older). Now Miniweak Wetware published the list of HARDWARE that might (or might not) upgrade from W10 to W11. For the record, CPUs for ... : AMD: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-amd-processors Intel: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors Key Info: TPM 2.0 chip needed, Secure Boot required, CSM = off (correct? not correct?). Of course, M$ may weaken this stance, and by experience from last updates they might, but if, not by far. So maaaaaybe TPM 1.2, but don't bet on it. This might mean the cutting-off of XP-capable machines, while (might = 99.99%); Of course, i ignore W10 remaining for a few years, that is NOT content of this thread. So this is your Finest Hour (tm): List Hardware that still is Dual-boot compatible, or say if you expect this to become, once MSFN runs hot (only calls with good arguments, please, no wishful thinking). The cutting off of certain old GPU iron from driver-support at AMD or NVidia is purely coincidental, correct? DX12 is named as a "GPU and Driver requirement", but i guess the same old story here: AMD is dead on cross-compatible legacy (still, and again) - but that's not new, and anyone interested may just get a GTX9x0, and is fine, until NVidia pulls the plug (and they usually do, like with the 6000/7000 series just lately on W10, but it takes time, so we might see W12 before that happens). Again: This thread is about cross-compatible, dual-boot capable hardware, XP and W11, nothing else. Please keep your threads tidy. Cheers, Ragnar G.D.

Nice find.

I don't connect my two XP systems to the internetz, and therefore can remove the most important cpu-cycle- and io-eater there is: Antivirus. This also means, shoutdown the update service, 'course... :-) One of my two XP-systems has two NICs, one for XP and solely internal connection (blocked from internet on my router, and on VLAN separated from my other boxes except for one), while my other OS on that machine (W10 64bit) has that NIC disabled, and connects to internetz via a 10GBit NIC - which XP cannot make use of (i need not explain why, i guess... :-) ). My other machine carrying XP has W98SE as its primary OS, where both systems use the same NIC, and are on that locked VLAN mentioned above as well. Fixed IP-Adresses and such, speeds up W98SE, of course, but also XP to a small degree.

My preferred version is: Tested ... (MSFN-style) In other words: First, i test The Latest (tm) , to see if my needs are covered, and to to be "on top" security-wise. If not, i go backwards one step at a time, until they are. M$ is adding and removing features constantly, but without trying, you won't find out "your" red lines. My last move was from WHS 2011 to Standard 2016, and i'll keep that, while (patches == incoming); (This does not exactly answer your more detailed question: I switched from sandy bridge to ryzen with that step, which is an option you most likely don't have)

W10 is "Unusable" with a legacy NVidia card, because the screen flickers to an unacceptable extent, display artifacts, color distortions, you name it. Like with a semi-broken GPU. There is no point in staying with some outdated version (of whatever W7/8/10), because the purpose is exactly to have a current Windows 10 64bit and W9x, it is there to proove that Windows is Windows since over 20 years, and it was/(is?) a platform to compare the same ole' games over the generations of Windows, i.e. Baldurs Gate I / II, Half Life 1, Diablo 1/2, Stalker, etc.. The other two OS, that is, W98SE and XP stay usable, of course, as there is no change. But there is no point any more in keeping up the FX platform, which requires quite some effort installing, and patching, and keeping alive with W10 64bit. Because: If i just want to use XP and W98SE (and NOT W10 64bit) there are fully supported Platforms for that, as i.e. the ASRock 775i65G R3.0 https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/775i65G R3.0/index.asp But you need not feel the same, this is just me... ;-) Cheers, Ragnar G.D.

Hi, maybe we see the waning light of triple-boot with W98/XP/W10: The last usable driver for NVidia Series 6 and 7 cards on Windows 10 (GEFORCE 309.08 for W88 64bit, from 2015-02-24) is showing severe flicker and display-problems (here: with my GF 7900 GTX PCIe 512MB). This would fundamentally render moot AMD FX as the most cross-compatible, intergenerational platform for W98SE to current W10, and might do so for any other modern platform. (Unfortunately, LInux with pass-through is still not up to replace this "in totam", even though it seems the most promising alternative). Does anyone else have the same problem, or is it just me? Cheers, Ragnar G.D.