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  1. I believe the 7200rpm versions are the newer Red Pro, but maybe there are 7200rpm Reds too that I'm not aware of. Either way, I ordered a 5400rpm. If the drive really needs upto 10 seconds to spin back up from standby (might be adjustable via a tool on WD's site), that's fine with me. So I loose 10 seconds performing a bi-monthly backup... On the noise they make... I currently have: PC1: 1x Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 3x Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000 HDS723020BLA642 2TB 1x Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 HDS722020ALA330 2TB PC2: 1x Western Digital Black WD3003FZEX 3TB (secondary) PC3: 1x Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C HDS721010CLA332 1TB 2x HGST Deskstar 7K4000 HDS724040ALE640 4TB PC4: 1x Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB PC5: 1x Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500AAKS 250GB PC6: 1x Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB Something tells me I won't even hear the WD Red...
  2. Windows XP: new Z68/Z77 rig in 2017

    Yes, someone else pointed this card out to me as well. I'd still want to speak to someone who's actually using this card on Windows XP to verify that the primitive bass/treble controls that Windows XP offers inside its Volume Control panel (sys tray speaker icon > Advanced) are supported by the card's drivers. With most audio cards, those sliders are disabled.
  3. I want to clone because it's faster and keeps the timestamp on files and folders. I'll be holding on to the data on the source drive for a week or two to see how things go with the new drive. I'll be using either Macrium Reflect or MiniTool Partition Wizard for the job, both of which have served me well. I asked about the 512e to 512n conversion because I figured some cloning tools can do a low-level sector-by-sector copy, which (in my thinking) could screw things up.
  4. I eventually ordered the Red. According to the salesperson, "small" errors are corrected within the 7 second time frame that TLER allows; "serious" errors (CRC errors) that would require more than 7 seconds to correct, rarely happen, and if they do, it shouldn't be much of a concern as any damaged file(s) can be copied over to the backup again (preferably on a new hard drive). I'm still curious to know if it's OK to clone from a 512e disk to a 512n disk.
  5. This is a peculiar problem I've been having with one PC. It was originally running Windows Vista 64-bit, but later formatted and loaded with Windows 7 64-bit. I can't remember if the problem already existed when Windows Vista was still installed, but I presume it was because I now feel this to be a hardware problem. When hitting Start > Restart, I expect Windows to shutdown, the computer to restart, the POST to load, etc. However, something seems to be going wrong after Windows closes: the screen goes black as expected, but the POST never appears. All fans and hard drives are spinning and all lights are burning. The only way to get the computer running again when that happens is to either press the reset button or to shut the PC down and power it on again. The motherboard in question is an Asus M4A87TD EVO. I have tried to fix this on various occasions over the past year or so, without success. Some people suggested to disable the power saving settings on the Firewire port, but I had already done that before (out of habit). So I did the reverse, and re-enabled the power saving settings but that didn't help. Next, I disabled the Firewire port but that didn't change anything either. Recently, I also read somewhere that it could be a keyboard incompatibility; some people have fixed this by swapping their keyboard. This didn't seem to help me either. On the VERY odd occasion, over the past week or so, I have noticed the computer to shutdown instead of exhibiting the problem above, as if I clicked Start > Shutdown instead of Start > Restart. Don't know if that's a clue. Is there anything else to try? Change the power supply? Flip the connector of the reset switch cable in case it wasn't connected the right way? Change the power state setting in the BIOS (currently set to "S1 only")? Reload the latest BIOS?
  6. Usually, when you buy a low profile card, it comes with the full height bracket connected to it. The low profile bracket is included as an accessory. Do you still have the full height bracket? I just did four in the past week, including two repastes. Always a pleasure
  7. I'm trying to find the best 4TB hard drive I can get for the purpose of manually backing up (copying) files to at an average rate of once or twice a month (once or twice a week maximum). The hard drive will be placed in a computer running Windows 7 64-bit, so I suppose I should better avoid 4Kn drives. So far, though, it seems that everything I'm looking for in such a drive doesn't appear to be provided by any manufacturer; it's all black & white with nothing in between. I'm looking for a drive with a high level of reliability and durability, but without TLER (or at least the ability to disable it). I will be running it in a non-RAID setup in a regular PC, not in a NAS, so I would like the drive to do whatever it can to recover data in case of a failure. The drive should be internal and be able to work inside a computer that's running 24/7. High level of reliability = NAS or data center drives Without TLER = desktop drives See my problem? In addition, HGST doesn't even mention TLER in the spec sheet for their Ultrastar 7K6000 (data center) and Desktop NAS drives. Neither does Toshiba. Several online sources claim that you can use a tool to disable TLER on Western Digital Red and Gold drives, but it's intended for older drives and may corrupt the firmware. I'm a little tight on budget, so I'd prefer not to risk killing a drive. The list: - Toshiba MD04ACA400 (0.6M MTTF / 7200rpm / 128MB cache / 512e) - Toshiba N300 (1M MTTF / 7200rpm / 128MB / sector size not listed) - HGST Ultrastar 7K6000 (2M MTBF / 7200rpm / 128MB / 512n or 512e) - WD RED WD40EFRX (1M MTBF / 5400rpm / 64MB / 512e) - WD GOLD WD4002FYYZ (2M MTBF / 7200rpm / 128MB / 512n) I know the MTBF figures should be taken with a grain of salt, but I'm listing them anyway. Note that Toshiba uses MTTF as opposed to MTBF used by other manufacturers. A rough head calculation, though, indicates that their MTTF rating would amount to a little less than 1M MTBF. But that's probably a moot point. On the point of 512n (native) and 4TB, is it still safe to have 4TB crammed into a hard drive using 512b native sectors? Also, I intend to clone an existing 4TB hard drive to it, but it's a 512e (emulated) drive. Is it safe to clone 4TB 512e to 4TB 512n or should I take additional precautions?
  8. Windows XP: new Z68/Z77 rig in 2017

    Sorry about the delay. My budget is actually pretty close to nothing. I will have to borrow the money and pay them back later, so I'd like to keep the amount of components at a minimum. I've also decided to forgo having the option to overclock the CPU so I don't need to get a K. I also had a chat with a salesperson at a computer store I usually buy from, and he advised me to not go for something too old as I may have to buy it second-hand (due to unavailability), which has the added risk of getting components that ran overclocked for an extended period of time, especially in the case of enthousiast boards like the Asus P8Z68 Deluxe. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that appears to be software intended for Intel-made motherboards. Can it be used with Asus/Asrock boards? But that's an interesting point you raise there. A week ago, I couldn't immediately find a Z87 board to my liking; only Z97 boards. But I'll look again. Just in case somebody's wondering why I'm never mentioning Gigabyte boards... I have used them on computers for clients and think they are a good brand too, but I prefer not to get one for a computer of my own because of their policy on killing PCIe ports. I know CPUs provide only a limited amount of lanes, but Gigabyte's strategy on disabling PCIe slots or reducing their levels seems more aggressive than with Asus' or Asrock's. I still want the ability to use as many PCIe slots as possible, so I'd rather see a 16x slot reduced to 8x than having all 1x slots disabled. Another point I seem to have neglected is how much any PCI ports on more modern motherboards can handle. If I want to keep on using my Audigy 2 PCI card (I know it's considered the worst of all Audigy's, but still), it needs to work. In light of this, I'm wondering if there's any use in upgrading to an Audigy RX PCIe card. I've been told it's a "budget" card, but does it have at least the same quality as the Audigy 2?
  9. Windows XP: new Z68/Z77 rig in 2017

    There do appear to be drivers for the HD 4400 and 4600 graphics for XP. liquidLD posted HD 4600 drivers here but he needs to update the links. The same goes for the Killer E2200 chip, which appears to be an Atheros AR8161 for which XP drivers do exist (discussion here). Realtek audio isn't an issue either. As far as more recent chipsets go... I'd still like to have a working onboard video chip as a backup. My video card could die, or I may want to put it in a temporary replacement PC for a customer whose PC I need to repair. It can always come in handy. Also, all programs I use currently and intend to use in the "new" XP computer are single-core applications, so more cores aren't necessarily going to improve my experience as opposed to "raw power". The second computer I intend to build (storage + video editing) needs to be ready for programs like Premiere and Vegas Pro. Having more cores might serve me better there. So basically, we're back at USB 3 I don't mind a little tinkering around, but all USB 3 ports need to work, even if they operate at USB 2.0 speeds. Having only one usable USB 3 port to which a USB hub needs to be connected is a bridge too far for me. The same goes for a USB 3.0 PCIe expansion card; I don't want to waste PCIe slots. It's a bit unclear to me which chips work OK at 2.0 speeds, and which require the USB hub workaround. Would that be 7/8/9-series chipsets vs 100+ series chipsets? Or is it about USB 3.0 vs 3.1? Currently, I think I'd either go with: Z68 + Sandy Bridge, Z68 + Ivy Bridge, or Z97 + Haswell Refresh/Devil's Canyon (i5-4690K or i7-4790K) I'm not yet sure how Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge compare in terms of heat (OC'd or not). Still need to find that out.
  10. Windows XP: new Z68/Z77 rig in 2017

    Just wondering... Everyone keeps talking about USB 3.0, but what about the rest? How do I know there are chipset drivers, sata drivers, onboard video drivers, etc. compatible with Windows XP if the board manufacturer won't list any? For example: ASRock Z97 Pro4 ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer I know mechanical hard drives don't saturate the SATA3 ports, but reading and writing operations are still faster than when connected to SATA2 ports. I have tested this myself, both with the onboard SATA2 ports of my P7H55 board, as well as with the HighPoint RocketRAID 2640X1 PCIe card with SATA2 ports. My onboard SATA3 ports are faster. I will. I don't plan to upgrade it again. The board needs to be durable and be able to withstand 24/7 operation.
  11. Windows XP: new Z68/Z77 rig in 2017

    @jaclaz: thanks for the info. Sorry, I meant H55, not P55. I didn't say there was anything wrong with H61, just that the upgrade level isn't that big with H55>H61 as it is with H55>Z68. The H61 you linked to has PCIe 2.0, doesn't have USB 3.0, there are 3 usable PCIe ports and 2 SATAIII 6Gbps ports, exactly like on my P7H55 board. The Asus P8Z68 Deluxe/Gen3 has PCIe 3.0, has USB 3.0 (including front panel), 4 usable PCIe ports (if installing a dual slot graphics card) and 4 SATAIII 6Gbps ports. I suppose I can get away with PCIe 2.0, but I would like to have the rest. I read about this in another thread on MSFN. Do I understand correctly if I read that only one USB 3.0 port on the motherboard will be usable, and that a USB hub is required to split it across multiple USB devices? I wouldn't call that a fix, but I don't want to get into semantics. I haven't used a USB hub in well over 15 years (even the internal 5.25" floppy drive stayed in much longer), but if people can live with it... great. "Better" is usually better, but I think it's over the top for me. I'd also prefer to use a VelociRaptor over a SATA/mSATA/NVMe on Windows XP. Too lazy to trim... ::scratches-beard::
  12. Windows XP: new Z68/Z77 rig in 2017

    @jaclaz I'm not worried about not being able to use such large drives to install Windows on. In fact, it's pretty common. I bought a 3TB HDD for my dad about a year ago, but I couldn't install Windows 7 64-bit on it as it required EFI/GPT. It's now living its life as a secondary drive. I prefer to use a small system drive anyway. But I didn't know you could go over 2.2TB with MBR (albeit limited to native 4K drives). You mentioned "4TB"; is that the maximum MBR can handle or were you referencing my 4TB drives?
  13. Windows XP: new Z68/Z77 rig in 2017

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't consider the H61 that much of an upgrade compared to the P55 I have now. The others are used on mATX boards (at least with Asus). I don't plan on overclocking, but I wouldn't mind having the ability to do so should I ever change my mind. At this point, I don't really feel up to patching the kernel (I'm aware of the different possibilities). In fact, I want to move over to XP 64-bit completely if the programs I use allow me to. 32GB of RAM is overkill for me and will be for the foreseeable future, unless I start using fuller/heavier video editing software than the freeware tools I'm using now (Avidemux 2.5 and VirtualDub 1.9.11 mostly). Besides, the plan is to use a different PC running Windows 7 Pro 64-bit (already have the license and DVD) for the video editing stuff so there is nothing left that would require me to have over 16GB on the XP machine. I was running Windows 2000 Pro SP4 for many years, and always ported it over to new systems to avoid reinstallation. Windows 2000 is very forgiving when it comes to this. I had one install going over AMD, nForce4 and various Intel boards without problem until I got the P7H55 I'm using now. After a year of putting up with the occasional freezes and memory-related issues, I needed to reboot after installing a program, but Windows failed to boot with the dreaded "WINNT\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM is missing or corrupt" error message. With Win2K, that's the end because there is no backup like with XP. I tried to install Win2K Pro SP4 fresh onto the second partition of the system drive, but it failed after the first reboot (entering the GUI section of Windows setup) stating a problem with USB. I tried all the settings in the BIOS but nothing helped. Since I needed the computer working again in a few hours, I decided to install WinXP Pro 32-bit fresh onto the second partition, after formatting it. This install went through, but the instabilities remained. I also noticed that the top right corner of the motherboard (on the side of the RAM) is bending upwards, which (I assume) could imply that the heatsink wasn't installed properly. This could also explain why I have to re-seat or wiggle the memory and some of the cards from time to time, especially after tilting the case down to clean it or install/uninstall components. If I don't do this, the computer itself might fail to even run the POST or I get BSODs in Windows. Some of the motherboard expansion card slots don't fully align with the case slots either, which is strange because I have used several boards with this case and never ran into this problem before. The board with CPU and heatsink wasn't preinstalled by me but by a fellow system builder (I used to actively build computers myself up and through the Athlon64 X2 era). But it doesn't serve to point a finger anymore; I've noticed many of the IO ports have become pretty rusty over time, possibly because of the excess humidity where my computer is operating. First, I need to say I'm not a gamer. I don't know where that idea got started, but I'm not. I don't intend to play either. I've worked with Vista/7 32/64-bit and 8/8.1 64-bit extensively and played a little with 10 64-bit. There are currently 5 computers in this house hold and another one in an office space that I'm maintaining. I'm aware of Classic Mode, but I need more: - basic bass and treble controls in the Windows Volume Control panel - that huge button toolbar in Explorer needs to go and replaced with a customizable toolbar featuring only the icons that I need, set to "small icons" - big status bar in Explorer needs to go away if I enable the small status bar - remember sizing and position of all windows, including those that are partially shifted out of view I often run multiple programs (usually 4 to 5) side-by-side so I need as much screen real estate as I can get. I don't want to use a big monitor for tasks other than video editing. Why 2 computers? I don't want the backup to be in the computer that I'll be using 24/7, but I won't be doing high-profile automatic backups either so an external NAS is over the top. A second workstation computer connected to the network is good enough for me. Since I won't be sitting at that computer very often (I can initiate the backups from the source PC), I might as well use modern, high-end components for it and make it a dedicated video editing machine using Win7 Pro 64-bit so I have the option to run more recent professional video editing programs. So I need Win7 (or 8.1 if need be) for some tasks, and XP for other tasks. I want to be able to do all the other tasks WHILE editing video, which I can't do with a dual boot on the same computer. The XP 32-bit / XP 64-bit dual boot I had in mind is intended to allow me to test XP 64-bit in anticipation of a full transition from XP 32-bit. If my XP 64-bit testing won't prove to be the "experience" I had hoped for, I still have XP 32-bit to fall back to. Writing about this now, I realize that I could also just install XP 64-bit from the start (skipping XP 32-bit) as I still have my current PC to fall back to. Sound card, and possibly a capture card. I currently have an Audigy 2 PCI card that I'm very happy with and was thinking of transfering over. I also wondered if it would be useful to upgrade to an X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion or a newer Audigy RX, as both are PCIe (and come with XP drivers). What's holding me back there, is that the X-Fi cards have combined Line In/Mic In, and many reviewers complain about not so good sound quality with the Audigy RX (though they never compare it to the Audigy 2). Also, since I have never used any of these cards before (let alone on an XP system), I don't know if their drivers give me the basic bass/treble controls in the Windows Volume Control panel. I was never much of an equalizer guy; it's good for setting a base sound, but it's too much hassle to make a minor temporary adjustment for one song.
  14. Windows XP: new Z68/Z77 rig in 2017

    Sorry. It seems I wasn't too clear with my question on the 4TB drives. I am aware of the fact that XP 32-bit can't read those. In the XP 32-bit and XP 64-bit dual boot setup I intend to install, I want to (temporarily) connect the two 4TB drives I already own and use them from within XP 64-bit to backup my data on. But I wasn't sure if booting into the XP 32-bit partition would somehow destroy the data on those drives. The word "operations" was perhaps ill-chosen. I was thinking of XP 32-bit trying to mount the 4TB drives when booting up. That's interesting. I'll need to read up on the 4TB / MBR / 4KB sector possibility. There must be a reason HDD manufacturers went 512e before going to true 4K.
  15. Windows XP: new Z68/Z77 rig in 2017

    I've owned an official copy of XP 64-bit for a few years now, but haven't gotten around to installing it yet. In fact, I have never worked with XP 64-bit before. I would prefer to make the switch, as it (theoretically) offers everything I need: XP "looks", screen real-estate (smaller and customizable toolbars) and support for more RAM and larger HDDs. But I have also read it can be quite problematic getting codecs to work and I am a little scared about not being able to use certain programs anymore. Also, I am still using WMP9 for embedded windows media on my current XP x86 install as the WMP11 plugin for Firefox/Opera can't scale video (known bug). XP 64-bit comes with WMP10 if I'm not mistaken but I don't know if the WMP10 plugin exhibits the same bug. The dual boot I had in mind for the "new old" computer is really just a safety net. I actually had my mind set on installing an unused 150GB WD VelociRaptor I have lying around. The other disks would be at least two of the four 2TB drives I'm currently using. For the sake of completeness, I'll also mention that I already bought a Nanoxia Deep Silence 2 and a Corsair AX760 (without Corsair Link) power supply. I also have two 4TB drives sitting inside another computer in our house hold running Windows 7 64-bit (used by other people), which I'm accessing through the network. I plan on putting them in the new XP machine until I have the money to buy the video editing machine. Incidentally, if I put those 4TB drives into the new XP machine and boot into XP 32-bit, will that destroy the contents of the drives, or will that only happen if I let Windows perform operations on it?