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Legolash2o
post Oct 11 2007, 02:28 PM
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with your method, will be be able to install Office 2007 and other stuff aswell so there already installed?
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post Oct 11 2007, 02:45 PM
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with your method, will be be able to install Office 2007 and other stuff aswell so there already installed?


You could install anything you want and then repack the wim however you may get issues with shortcuts etc. not working correctly if you then install to a different partition/drive letter (this is a complete guess as I haven't tried to install apps). The generalize function for Sysprep takes care of partition/drive letter issues for the actual Windows install so that you can install it to whatever system/drive you want later but in terms of it taking care of specific applications, you'll have to try for yourself and see. Again, it's something that I haven't had time for but would like to try sometime.

Of course, another issue with installing apps and repacking the wim is what effect it will have on vLite when you go to try and remove components etc. and whether or not vLite will break anything in the registry store or remove any files related/required for those apps.

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post Oct 11 2007, 03:18 PM
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If you are able to obtain the full SP1 ISO, then a better way may be the following:

1. vLite the SP1 ISO customizing/removing any components/features that you don't need
2. Install the vLited SP1 and enter Audit mode as per my guide.
3. Install your apps
4. Generalize/OOBE from Sysprep
5. Repack the wim

In this way, you won't have to deal with the possibility that vLite may screw up app installs but you may still have the issue with shortcuts etc. that I described in the previous post (if that issue even exists when using Generalize)

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hello ppl,

thnax for the replies..
i have found an article telling how to integrate the vista sp1
its called as reverse integration,but its too time consuming...

ne ways thanx for replying.
hope vlite with integration facility comes soon...i am waiting...
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post Dec 13 2007, 02:47 AM
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Reverse integration is also not the way to go, because you would get SP1 in the install.wim, but you would still have RTM in the boot.wim. It would just be a selfmade mess, if any of the boot drivers happen to be updated or if vulnerabilities in the WinPE needed to be patched. I see how integrating SP1 into Vista RTM would take a lot of time, because all the seperate images would need to be updated. I don't see how this would change for SP2, which can only be bigger than SP1. Unless you are supposed to integrate SP2 into an SP1 disc.

I say get yourself some official SP1 media when it's released: either buy the software assurance discs for $10 or so, borrow somebody's retail disc, or download it somewhere. Packing an online image is for building a corporate install, that includes default settings, drivers and third party software, it was never intended for just integrating microsoft updates.
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post Dec 13 2007, 03:19 AM
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QUOTE (Arneh @ Oct 11 2007, 01:52 PM) *
If not, MS have http download links (no user/pass required) for Vista (I'm not sure how legal it is to post those so I won't be doing that)

If it isn't protected and is on Microsoft's server, what's the problem? If they don't want it public then they need to put it on part of their network that isn't on the internet.
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post Dec 13 2007, 04:34 AM
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Arneh, I just made the SP1 RC integrated from XP as secondary OS and this time it worked. Thank you.
(first time I did it from another Vista, maybe messed up something else but the image was unusable, weird)

jdeboeck, hey, haven't seen you in a long time.
This captured thing is perfectly ok, boot.wim is not an issue and it seems like it switches to SP1 after the first reboot (the GUI changes a tiny bit, maybe unimportant).
It would be perfect to have boot.wim updated as well but if it works who cares, nothing is copied from it into the final install.
Since when do you surrender to what they decide? smile.gif
We capture so that we don't have to wait for them. Can't install SP on the lite install anyway. Can't configure at will, gotta install it for an hour every time after reinstall, cmon, did you forget how to be an enthusiast smile.gif
This integration makes it possible to have that extra option just in case. And even the direct integration worked until RC, they switched from offline to online package. It did have some extra errors so this capture is better since it has no errors.
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post Dec 13 2007, 11:29 AM
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There should be a WAIK for Vista SP1 I saw, with this the cabs in SP1 you might be able to integrate these. Not sure what you use nuhi. Probably something from the WAIK or not?
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post Dec 13 2007, 02:04 PM
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To capture? Yes, just imagex.exe. Then took install.wim and copied into the retail Sources folder.
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post Dec 14 2007, 10:00 AM
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if they have WAIK for SP1
then it must have updated boot.wim too yes.gif
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post Dec 14 2007, 11:22 AM
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First of all, I'm sorry for the following question.

I've extracted the public RC using "Windows6.0-KB936330-wave1-X86.exe /x:C:\temp". Why sp1 can't be integrated?

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post Dec 14 2007, 12:05 PM
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kontini, because it is locked as Online package type (meaning you can only run it on the OS to which you will install it on).
For example Hotfixes are offline and online, so they can be integrated (offline).

Alpha versions of Service pack were like hotfixes so it was possible to integrate it, it was significantly bigger as well.
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post Dec 14 2007, 02:10 PM
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Hi all!

I'm new to this whole game, but as I'm going to be formatting soon anyway I thought I might give this a shot.

I just wanted to check with you guys. I've got the Public Beta of SP1 RC1 downloaded (the 436 MB file) and I've used it to update this machine already. I know that it's at the very least time consuming to get SP1 integrated into a vlite image at this point.

My question is: you CAN still just install SP1 after the vlite install is done, right? It's not like the vlite install makes SP1 not install at all, right? I just want to make sure that will work-- the hour install doesn't bother me much at this point.

Thanks!
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post Dec 14 2007, 02:18 PM
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If you remove some components (haven't tested which because it seems it's many of them) then it fails. So you can use vLite for tweaks, unattended and integrations, just don't remove components if you will install SP on that install.
Since I never installed SP on the machine without reinstalling integrated one I don't see this as a minus. It is for average users but then again they shouldn't tamper with the OS in the first place.
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post Dec 14 2007, 04:09 PM
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Ah, ok, so for now if you want SP1 on, don't use vlite to strip anything out?

Will this be fixed once Microsoft releases an official disc with SP1 already on it and then you start with that and Vlite it?
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post Dec 14 2007, 05:40 PM
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It already works if you integrate SP1. Guide for integration via capture is up in this thread.
Only problem is if you remove then try to install SP1 on it.
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post Dec 14 2007, 11:27 PM
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Through the reverse integration? That sounds like an awful lot of work at this point, especially for someone as new to making these as I am. Maybe I'll get bored and brave in the near future though smile.gif
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