naw it doesnt help performance.
all it is, is hotfixes and some other pointless updates.

Have you tried it? SP1 does makes a lot of difference in performance and reliability.

Hello,

Can some one tell me how do we slipstream vista sp1.

You can't......

Everyone says that SP1 makes Vista faster and more stable . . . . which is really great . . . . but . . . .

1. Vista is so bloated you really need vLite.

2. If you remove the wrong thing with vLite, the SP1 installer crashes, BUT it won't tell you what is wrong -- it just gives you a meaningless error number. So, you have to spend hours and hours experimenting to figure out what the problem is.

3. OK, So I'll wait till SP1 is officially released and slip-stream it into Vista and then use vLite on that. OOOPS, Sorry. Can't do that. Microsoft has changed the SP1 installer and says that you won't be able slip-stream SP1 into Vista.

4. So, in a couple of months, when SP1 is officially released, someone will get a full DVD of Vista with SP1 integrated and upload it to one of the warez groups. Microsoft complains constantly about piracy and then does stupid crap like this that encourages people to go out and get pirated copies of Windows.

Microsoft has changed the SP1 installer and says that you won't be able slip-stream SP1 into Vista.

Offline installation of Windows Vista SP1, or of any of the update packages included in the service pack, is not supported. Offline installation will cause the Windows image to be corrupted.

I know nuhi will come up with slipstreaming SP1, but then, will they kill vLite too??

Unlike previous service pack updates for older Windows OSs, Microsoft does not provide any switches in the EXE to allow for simple integration. Part of the problem has to do with the completely different format that the Vista Setup DVD uses where each edition of Vista is a separate index in the install.wim and that each index needs to be separately updated.

While Microsoft could implement a switch to allow the user to select which index to update or a switch to update all the indexes, it will turn out to be a very lengthy and time-consuming process as we are talking about gigabytes of files that need to be updated/replaced, saved and recompressed.

http://www.winbeta.org/comments.php?catid=1&id=9536
http://bink.nu/news/windows-vista-sp1-quot...quot-guide.aspx
http://www.windowsvistaplace.com/vista-sp1...e/windows-vista

So it with a sense of relief that I can now report that drag and drop slipstreaming--excuse me, offline updating--is still happening. It's just not happening in Vista SP1. "Vista Service Pack 1 will not be able to be applied as an offline update to prestaged install images," Zipkin told me. "But this will work as planned with future update, post-SP1 updates. We ran into some unexpected issues with the servicing stack, so we can't do it for SP1. But we're planning to add this capability for SP2, though we can't make any promises. This will be a bigger issue around SP2 than it is now. We think this is a one time thing. But you can still make your own slipstream DVD using the old '-integrate' method as with XP if you want to."

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_sp1_inside.asp

We ran into some unexpected issues with the servicing stack, so we can't do it for SP1. But we're planning to add this capability for SP2, though we can't make any promises.

From the above quote

The controversy surrounding the standalone installer involves the time and effort it currently takes to get it installed. During the beta, testers are experiencing three lengthy reboots, and Microsoft has received a number of complaints about this process. Well, here's some good news: This is a beta-only issue. By the time most customers install SP1 in early 2008, the installer will only require a single reboot.

What's happening is that Vista SP1 requires two or three prerequisites, depending on whether BitLocker is installed. These prerequisites need to be installed before SP1 can be successfully deployed, and they each require their own reboot. (One of these prerequisites, incidentally, is the servicing code mentioned previously that is causing the offline updating limitations.) Before the end of calendar year 2007, Microsoft will ship final versions of these prerequisite updates to Vista customers via Windows Update so that they will be installed well before SP1 is released. (They may ship as part of the company's regularly scheduled monthly security patch update cycle in November. Or not. They're not sure yet.) That way, Vista-based PCs can reboot silently overnight once or twice between now and SP1. So when SP1 ships, most customers will experience just a single reboot for install. These updates will also go out on new PCs this holiday season so that those machines are ready for SP1 as well.

"SP1 won't need 3 reboots in the final version," Zipkin said. "When SP1 comes out, most people will have already gotten these prerequisites. It will affect beta testers and reviewers but not customers. The average consumer won't ever see this."

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_sp1_inside.asp

That's why SP1 cannot be integrated + as the other quotes say it will take time to update all the versions of vista (Home, Home Premium, Ultimate, etc..), and will be able to in SP2 (hopefully), so i don't think it will be illegal to integrate it they just had some problems...

In the end, I really don't see why everyone is making a big fuss out of being able to or not being able to slipstream SP1. MS will release full SP1 ISOs which will be the one you'll want as the full SP1 ISO will have updated setup, boot.wim files which a slipstream cannot do.

but i cant exactly go back to my retailer and trade my non-SP1 vista disk with a disk with SP1, so i'll want to be able to integrate it... i don't want to buy a new vista sp1 disk