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Happy-Dude
post Jul 15 2008, 11:26 AM
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ANNOUNCEMENT:

Project Anolis is up in CodePlex. Check it out at http://www.codeplex.com/anolis .

W3bbo is busy working on things now, but I'm sure that he will be able to work out the code more in the coming weeks.

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EDIT- XPero has stickied this discussion, so I guess I should make some major edits ...

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XPero: Oh yes of course, let's continue the project smile.gif I can host and publish them on the official websites.

So, XPero has given us (as in those interested from MSFN and elsewhere) permission to continue his XPize and Vize works. As far as I know, I don't think people have actually begun edits and stuff, but there is interest in it, and I guess that's all we need (and a little organization).

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To download XPero's source code files:

http://www.xpize.net/?page=source --> XPize 4.6 code and the installer system (for those who wish to make their own customized packs)

http://cid-a4b0f9235271a2fa.skydrive.live....wse.aspx/Source --> XPize and Vize .NET source codes (which I believe is still in alpha/beta/pre-release stages; i.e.- XPero does not believe these packs are ready or stable enough to be released for mainstream usage)

http://cid-a4b0f9235271a2fa.skydrive.live....wse.aspx/Public --> Vize 1.1 code and others



There are many people who are showing interest in helping this project come to light. Some, like me, W3bbo, doomangel, ricktendo64, Innocent Devil, and others wish to contribute.

Now we need an organized structure (how will this work: nominations? voting? requests?):

Host: XPero (though he has resigned from the main project, he is willing to host our continuation on his sites)

Project Heads: It's more like coordinators now: Happy-Dude // W3bbo // XPero

Developers/ Coders/ Programmers: W3bbo (more XPize based) // doomangel (I believe, more Vize based)

Designers/ Artists/ Contributors to make new high quality icons and resources: ?? We are now trying to get designers that make third party XPize packs to help out with our new **EXTENSIBLE** architecture; note: subject to change

Contributors that will help find "old icons" (low quality icons and icons that don't fit with the main OS themes) that Microsoft forgot about: ?? (Yeah, you get the drift.)

I'm guessing this project is transparent, so for those who want to help, but don't want to have a lot of responsibility, can just help find old icons from time to time. But I must ask those people to have installed XPize/ Vize in order to not report visuals that are already changed.

Any other positions that should be made? What do you guys think? Does anyone wish to be the serious organizer (I can do it if people don't mind, but things might change as school comes near; junior year is going to be hard ...)


THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ATTENDED TO: ellipses mean that there was more to the post


Now, for the other stuff, which I don't believe we've planned out just yet (also, should we have a separate section for Vize?):

MISSION/ GOALS:

FEATURE REQUESTS:

All are subject to change


-- New extensible architecture
-- XPize with SP3 support and x64
-- Combining of contents from previous installers, not the redundancies, but subject to change since we need the old source


BUGS:

XPize
-Some eratic problems with SP3 compatibility (W3bbo is even considering to add XPx64 compatibility smile.gif )
-Shell32.dll Reloader bug (dunno if we can fix)
-Compatibility with PowerDVD
-Visual Studio 2003 .NET compatibility
-compatibility with some explorer.exe resources
-compatibility with Asian languages pack and memory allocation
-supporting the older code branch (4.7b and before) and .NET (.1a) or manipulating them together
-uninstall fails to completely restore original visual settings (like icon sizes)
-compatibility issue with Stardock ---> DO NOT install XPize if stardock is installed

Vize
**Plenty of problems reported by Long Zheng's UI Taskforce (http://www.istartedsomething.com/taskforce/), many of which Vize attends to. However, they are definitely more that needs to get by. Anyone know which ones? (I don't run Vista, so I don't know a lot here sleep.gif ).
-%ProgramFiles% or spaces in path bug (this is fixed in doomangel's KDE patcher, which is a project based on the Vize code)


FIXES:

THINGS BEING WORKED ON/ IMPROVED SINCE FIRST REPORTs:














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Below is my original post about the project continuation:
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I'm just curious if anyone is interested in continuing XPero's XPize and Vize projects, perhaps under the same name (so the MSFN admins don't have to create different boards for each individually inspired projects).

His source codes have been released for both projects here: http://cid-a4b0f9235271a2fa.skydrive.live....wse.aspx/Source

I am definitely going to look at the source codes out of curiousity. Unfortunately, I know very little about programming, let alone software programming ... But I am willing to learn the trade smile.gif !!( I'm currently reading up on C and will be taking Java classes after the summer. I am also reading up on some hacking techniques [wishing to learn what makes programs tick and how to make 'em better]. Will that help in any way?)

So, how about it? Anyone interested? Pleasee ? To me, a team is better than having everything put onto the shoulders of one developer, and perhaps can push the potential of the project even further. So, what 'cha guys thinking ?

This post has been edited by Happy-Dude: Aug 20 2008, 08:29 AM
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post Jul 22 2008, 04:55 AM
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i'm in, i can contribute in many ways. i will release a version for my project sometime soon and after that i'm ready for vize/xpize.
a matter that needs attention is the status of the release license. should it released under the gnu(any version)?
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- Happy-Dude   Team of Developers for XPize & Vize continuation   Jul 15 2008, 11:26 AM
- - ChrisKuhli   Hello Dude I'm also sad of XPero's decis...   Jul 15 2008, 12:34 PM
|- - niwradsoft   Hello. The truth is that I do not know nothing of...   Jul 15 2008, 04:28 PM
- - XPero   Oh yes of course, let's continue the project ...   Jul 16 2008, 10:18 AM
- - doomangel   I've working in a project based on vize code f...   Jul 17 2008, 07:03 AM
|- - ricktendo64   QUOTE (doomangel @ Jul 17 2008, 09:03 AM)...   Jul 17 2008, 08:23 AM
- - W3bbp   Am I what you're looking for? I've been ...   Jul 17 2008, 12:12 PM
- - Joux_Sheikah   I would like but very little programming. Only C, ...   Jul 17 2008, 12:40 PM
- - Innocent Devil   Better to split the tasks to accomplish 1. finding...   Jul 17 2008, 02:57 PM
- - doomangel   just ask yourselves what more you'd wanted xpi...   Jul 17 2008, 03:28 PM
- - W3bbp   I hate to act unilaterally or anything.... but if ...   Jul 17 2008, 05:14 PM
- - damian666   i hope you guys dont underestimate the work involv...   Jul 18 2008, 01:06 AM
- - Acheron   I looked a bit at the source code, but as I see it...   Jul 18 2008, 06:52 AM
- - damian666   oh, its not the reshack script... its all of it to...   Jul 18 2008, 08:06 AM
- - XPero   @ W3bbp Check your PM inbox   Jul 18 2008, 09:57 AM
- - Happy-Dude   This is great, guys !! Alright, so first ...   Jul 18 2008, 10:29 AM
|- - W3bbp   QUOTE (Happy-Dude @ Jul 18 2008, 04...   Jul 18 2008, 02:12 PM
- - Happy-Dude   Great, so this is turning out nicely !! ...   Jul 18 2008, 06:48 PM
- - doomangel   so this is going seriously, ah? icon resources the...   Jul 19 2008, 01:42 AM
|- - niwradsoft   I believe than the projects they must take a degre...   Jul 19 2008, 02:58 AM
- - W3bbp   Remember, there are three distributions of the XPi...   Jul 19 2008, 03:24 AM
|- - XPero   QUOTE (W3bbp @ Jul 19 2008, 11:24 AM) Rem...   Jul 19 2008, 09:08 AM
- - Happy-Dude   Ah, sorry W3bbo. Didn't see his source codes ...   Jul 19 2008, 08:19 AM
|- - W3bbo   QUOTE (Happy-Dude @ Jul 19 2008, 02...   Jul 19 2008, 08:49 AM
- - Happy-Dude   Alright guys. This project is getting serious, as ...   Jul 19 2008, 11:43 AM
|- - W3bbo   QUOTE (Happy-Dude @ Jul 19 2008, 05...   Jul 19 2008, 03:27 PM
- - Zoom7000   I would love to help, but unfortunately have no ex...   Jul 19 2008, 03:17 PM
- - Happy-Dude   W3bbo, I've replied to your e-mail. Now, I ta...   Jul 19 2008, 06:06 PM
- - Joux_Sheikah   I can design icons, translated into Spanish (if ne...   Jul 20 2008, 05:26 PM
- - W3bbo   The Gameplan As me and HappyDude are in different...   Jul 20 2008, 05:59 PM
- - ricktendo64   Wouldn't it be possible to have Vize detect if...   Jul 20 2008, 10:00 PM
|- - doomangel   QUOTE (ricktendo64 @ Jul 20 2008, 10:00 P...   Jul 23 2008, 04:34 AM
|- - XPero   QUOTE (doomangel @ Jul 23 2008, 12:34 PM)...   Jul 23 2008, 06:36 AM
- - XPero   As greed with W3bbo, my roles will be the followin...   Jul 21 2008, 01:29 AM
- - W3bbo   Long Zheng IM'd me earlier today, he said he...   Jul 21 2008, 08:39 AM
- - doomangel   i'm in, i can contribute in many ways. i will ...   Jul 22 2008, 04:55 AM
|- - Happy-Dude   QUOTE (doomangel @ Jul 22 2008, 06:55 AM)...   Jul 22 2008, 10:00 AM
- - doomangel   all right, here's the first question. is it po...   Jul 22 2008, 11:02 AM
- - MagicAndre1981   if you use Codeplex, could you please use Svnbridg...   Jul 22 2008, 01:19 PM
- - damian666   Vista pack??? do i see a little copyright enfringe...   Jul 24 2008, 01:49 AM
- - Happy-Dude   Well, I noticed that Long Zheng's IStartedSome...   Jul 24 2008, 07:07 AM
- - Happy-Dude   UPDATE: W3bbo just informed me about his new exte...   Jul 27 2008, 11:38 AM
- - damian666   at first i was joking, but now i really want to le...   Jul 27 2008, 07:01 PM
|- - Happy-Dude   QUOTE (damian666 @ Jul 27 2008, 09:01 PM)...   Jul 27 2008, 08:55 PM
|- - doomangel   QUOTE (damian666 @ Jul 27 2008, 08:01 PM)...   Jul 28 2008, 12:30 PM
- - damian666   well... the vistapack is certainly been based on t...   Jul 28 2008, 06:23 AM
|- - W3bbo   QUOTE (damian666 @ Jul 28 2008, 12:23 PM)...   Jul 28 2008, 06:52 AM
- - XPero   @ Happy-Dude: A Vista pack addon for XPize can be...   Jul 28 2008, 06:53 AM
- - damian666   i was just talking about the name man. and ok, ma...   Jul 28 2008, 10:09 AM
- - damian666   @XPero, there is nobody that can force me too shar...   Jul 28 2008, 10:31 AM
- - ricktendo64   The Resources can be gotten from other places incl...   Jul 28 2008, 01:04 PM
- - damian666   yeah, i agree with ricktendo, be my guest and get ...   Jul 28 2008, 01:24 PM
- - Happy-Dude   Guys, guys, it's fine. Calm down, don't s...   Jul 28 2008, 02:10 PM
|- - doomangel   QUOTE (Happy-Dude @ Jul 28 2008, 03...   Jul 28 2008, 02:20 PM
- - damian666   @happy dude well, what my concern is, what will h...   Jul 28 2008, 02:32 PM
|- - W3bbo   QUOTE (damian666 @ Jul 28 2008, 08:32 PM)...   Jul 28 2008, 02:48 PM
- - damian666   which means at first they will stay intact? just ...   Jul 28 2008, 03:06 PM
|- - W3bbo   QUOTE (damian666 @ Jul 28 2008, 09:06 PM)...   Jul 28 2008, 03:30 PM
- - damian666   ok, i am almost there... just one more question, a...   Jul 28 2008, 03:42 PM
|- - W3bbo   QUOTE (damian666 @ Jul 28 2008, 09:42 PM)...   Jul 28 2008, 04:07 PM
|- - Happy-Dude   QUOTE (damian666 @ Jul 28 2008, 05:42 PM)...   Jul 28 2008, 05:20 PM
- - damian666   yeah well, just checking, language barrier i didn...   Jul 28 2008, 05:24 PM
- - Happy-Dude   Awesome, Damian666 !! If you would like i...   Jul 28 2008, 06:52 PM
- - damian666   trust me man, its not that i dont speak english ve...   Jul 29 2008, 12:17 AM
- - doomangel   welcome to the team, it wasn't a fighting. i c...   Jul 29 2008, 01:54 AM
- - XPero   @damian666: I dont have any problems with you mat...   Jul 29 2008, 02:00 AM
- - ricktendo64   I am glad you guys decided to separate the program...   Jul 29 2008, 09:41 AM
- - damian666   nah, its well XPero, we were both a bit out of lin...   Jul 29 2008, 10:15 AM
- - prebenandre   Well, in my ears this sounds what i have been thin...   Aug 4 2008, 01:29 AM
|- - W3bbo   QUOTE (prebenandre @ Aug 4 2008, 08:29 AM...   Aug 4 2008, 04:40 AM
- - damian666   i agree, BUT... please note that some , me for exa...   Aug 4 2008, 04:51 AM
- - prebenandre   At least XPize and Vize should do that, they are i...   Aug 4 2008, 05:52 AM
- - damian666   yes, as i said, i agree with you man Damian666   Aug 4 2008, 06:39 AM
- - XPero   The family is XPize & Vize. Other packs (not t...   Aug 5 2008, 04:10 AM
- - prebenandre   I think XPize and Vize should follow the nLite/vLi...   Aug 5 2008, 07:47 AM
- - damian666   yes, i totally agree with XPero man... the way Nuh...   Aug 5 2008, 09:22 AM
- - Happy-Dude   Well, the new architecture allows for something li...   Aug 5 2008, 09:57 AM
|- - niwradsoft   Hello again I do not believe they disappeared. I ...   Aug 6 2008, 03:11 AM
- - Happy-Dude   niwradsoft, why don't you join our CodePlex pa...   Aug 6 2008, 10:57 AM
- - MagicAndre1981   is the project now published?   Aug 7 2008, 01:59 AM
|- - W3bbo   QUOTE (MagicAndre1981 @ Aug 7 2008, 08:59...   Aug 7 2008, 02:28 AM
- - Happy-Dude   UPDATE:: W3bbo has made the NEW website !...   Aug 14 2008, 04:54 PM
- - W3bbo   Actually, I'm afraid we may have to move the x...   Aug 14 2008, 06:19 PM
- - prebenandre   Great news! I can't wait for this lovely...   Aug 15 2008, 08:47 AM
- - Happy-Dude   prebenandre, Most likely, we will have it. It is ...   Aug 16 2008, 07:25 PM
- - zedox   Hi guys, Thanks for the invitation however after ...   Aug 17 2008, 05:29 PM
- - Happy-Dude   Thanks for the reply, zedox. Remember if you ever...   Aug 18 2008, 12:04 AM
- - Happy-Dude   ANNOUNCEMENT: Project Anolis is up in CodePlex. C...   Aug 20 2008, 08:28 AM


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