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@tguy - already on the list. See first post.


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@Arie - do you have links? Any different from PING from ping.windowsdream.com?

Nope, that's the one.
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Another new entry, found by ktp:
http://www.clonegenius.com/

added to the 911CD thread:
http://www.911cd.net...o...c=16534&st=

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Added. Wish I had time to do more testing and comparison. :angry:

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LOL time ... wish I could buy some :P

My computer just crash and I had to reinstall EVERYTHING. and I was just looking for a software that would be able to save me some time .... the next time it hapens.

Looking forward for you conclusion on thoses software.

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don't need to buy anything you can use Windows imaging for free. Along with some of the other software on the list.

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umm ... maybe it's a good solution to backup files, but can it do a bit per bit backup so I won't have to re-install Windows, the updates and my program AND support "Mountable Images" ?

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bit for bit no, but an image that contains everything needed for a windows installation yes. bit for bit is a little extreme, thiat is normally reserved for forensics. Windows Imaging is a file based imaging method and allows you to mount the image as a folder on your machine for editing.

It is what is used for Vista, and can be used for XP. I have a guide available here: http://www.msfn.org/...o...st&p=674778

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A software you missed: ShadowProtect

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Theres also Altiris Deployment solution which is very nice if you have the time to set it up
http://www.altiris.c...ntSolution.aspx

I remember Novells Zenworks doing imaging as well but i dont know if they still have that as a product

As for PING, if you need any info on it, I can provide feedback since i use it almost every day. Heres a quick pro/con list:
  • Free
  • Images machines that are running DeepFreeze properly
  • can be used to make a restoreDVD from and image
  • No PXE drivers need to be installed -works with almost every card ive tried
  • FAST! Transfers at the full capacity of the network card everytime (10/100/1000)
  • i can image a machine by pxe booting, hit enter 2-3 times, select create new image, type file name, select compression, and wait.
  • runs its own dhcp server so all you need is the PING server and the machine you are imaging
  • Ive alway used i for windows to windows imaging but its supposed to be cross platform
  • Very lightweight. doesn't 'install' itself to windows. To move it from 1 machine to the next, just copy the folder
  • Cannot multicast (can send to more than 1 machine but in different streams)
  • cannot take an image from 1 machine and directly copy it to another (has to be made into an image first)
  • 3com 905B cards wont PXE boot (905C will though)
  • By default, it grabs the CMOS settings and restores them to the target computer (Copies the Service Tag info from the Bios from 1 machine to the other on dells and gateways)


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here's an interesting one, but it is a linux bootcd that runs a program designed specifically to backup c-drives on XP machines.

CDriveBack -- sourceforge project -- http://www.lccdigita...ent/view/65/62/

PING sounds interesting -- will it "kiosk" an XP machine?

I'm using 98se happily now in a 733P3, but would like to move to new hardware. I am reluctant to move to XP until there was a way by which I can sector-by-sector restore my C-drive on every shutdown (from MBR to ORIGINAL swap file to the last slackspace). In my dream, a normal shutdown would (1) shutdown XP and reboot to a new os, then (2) run a restore image program on a minimal c-drive (c-drive has os and programs only), then (3) restore default boot to XP for next startup and then (4) turn off. An optional shutdown would make an new reference image, built after adding new software while not connected, with full awareness and knowledge of the machine's owner. Every startup would be absolutely identical, no matter how many personalities (unauthorized by me) have been fudging with my bits 'n ... while connected. I don't care about any of Bill Gate's illusory conveniences. Any data to be retained would be on other drives (which is not hard to do). If I can reboot the same everytime, thenI don't care what "other powers" want to do to my HDD while connected -- they can have at to their heart's delight. But when I go to sleep at night, I want to know that come morning, my machine starts off right.

Has anyone done this? Deep Freeze looks interesting, but it's my suspicion that they have back doors too, and if they were discovered, no one would ever know, nor would it be in their interest to announce it.

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@molecule - doesn't make images but sound like you want deepfreeze.

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Posts unrelated to exist topic of imaging software and related to freezeing the system state have been move to a new topic here: http://www.msfn.org/...howtopic=107268

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bit for bit no, but an image that contains everything needed for a windows installation yes. bit for bit is a little extreme, thiat is normally reserved for forensics. Windows Imaging is a file based imaging method and allows you to mount the image as a folder on your machine for editing.

It is what is used for Vista, and can be used for XP. I have a guide available here: http://www.msfn.org/...o...st&p=674778


Thanks, but it sounds like utility software to me to save your files in case your computer crash.... I got myself from Western Digital "My book" and it has software to backup files.

So, loosing files is not my concert, time is! Cause when you’re stuck with a virus that eat up your energy and you decide to format and re-install everything ... From windows (reboot 3 times) to the patch (reboot a few time more) and don't forget the drivers (reboot .. reboot ... reboot) and all the other program and games (and patch that you have to find on the net). One simple click (ok ok maybe 2 or 3) is what I'm looking for. Ghost was doing that in less than 20 min compare to about 6 hr manually, but since I'm not a big fan of Symantec anymore, I'm looking for something else that could do the same thing.

Thank's for your reply, very appreciated !

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Great idea. Which ones are freeware though?

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Still working on this. It is slow going when you have other projects to work on at the same time. If someone wants to take on that challenge and send th list to me I will add that info to the first post.

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Still working on this. It is slow going when you have other projects to work on at the same time. If someone wants to take on that challenge and send th list to me I will add that info to the first post.


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Iceman, I updated your list with pricing info. If you want, just add this to your original post and snip it from this post.

Disk Imaging Products:Disk Cloning Products:

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Another candidate:
SVISTA (NO it is not a typo) Image tool:
http://www.os2site.c...w/apps/virtual/
http://www.os2site.c...l/it-svista.txt
http://www.os2site.c...win-bin-1.1.zip

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i was just looking for the same thing on which imaging and backup software i should use for my OS's.i realy like to see the result of your project iceman.
there is a product coming with WD external drives called LigeAgent from memeo which i guess worth looking at too.

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i was just looking for the same thing on which imaging and backup software i should use for my OS's.i realy like to see the result of your project iceman.
there is a product coming with WD external drives called LigeAgent from memeo which i guess worth looking at too.


Isn't that for MAC? :unsure:

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Which software in dos alows to copy whole partition with no gb limitation, and save it as an iso image.

I will be copying the windows os and boot drive c: partition.



Anyone know ?

Edited by exogenesis, 25 May 2008 - 05:17 AM.


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i know of none that will save an an ISO but I know of one that will run in dos and allow you to directly record to CD/dvd recorder - norton ghost 2003!

i've used that product for a long time until ImageX came out.

I still find that ImageX is much more useful than others.

And if I'm not mistaken, ImageX is still the only one that creates a file-based image of the whole partition or disk. The others, like True Image, can do file-based backups of files or folders but not whole partitions or disks. Acronis offers a sector-by-sector imaging as an option for whole partitions/disks - but this is really a sector-by-sector of the whole partition/disks (including free space) as opposed to just utilized space.
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Add to this list Acronis Echo. Echo replaces Trueimage.

Edited by mikesw, 18 July 2008 - 08:17 AM.


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The others, like True Image, can do file-based backups of files or folders but not whole partitions or disks. Acronis offers a sector-by-sector imaging as an option for whole partitions/disks - but this is really a sector-by-sector of the whole partition/disks (including free space) as opposed to just utilized space.


Trueimage can image partitions or whole disks, and only switches to sector based backups with filesystems it can't read (e.g. netware). The result is that a sector based backup can only be restored to the same size partition / disk, while file based ones can be restored to smaller partitions or disks, if the original had free space.
With windows and linux versions, and several free offerings, it's pretty good.




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