[Thilo]

Hello together!


I have currently the problem that my auto-install-CD cannot setup a fully startable Windows 2000 Pro system, it always hangs up when trying to save the settings.

I know that there are logs, but how can i find or read them so that I know the reason why Win setup hangs up?


Regards,

Thilo

[nuhi]

You mean Saving Setting as the last part of the Windows setup or during nLite processing?

And please attach the preset for me to try.

[slippykillsticks]

I can confirm this issue as happening with both Windows 2000 and Windows XP. Windows setup hangs at "Saving Settings" near the end of GUI setup with the flood bar at about an eighth filled. I am attaching my presets for both XP and 2000.

Attached File(s)

•  Last_Session__XP_.ini (32.6K)
  Number of downloads: 39
•  Last_Session__2K_.ini (23.95K)
  Number of downloads: 28

[slippykillsticks]

Just checking to see if anyone else has experienced this issue and if any further help is needed. I have made my presets available for research purposes. Thanks in advance.

[wrayal]

I'm having the same error. Does anyone have any idea what might cause it? I'd very much like to have this install

This post has been edited by nuhi: 07 July 2007 - 04:07 PM

[nuhi]

slippykillsticks, I have tried your XP preset but without the addons and it was fine.
Can you please do the same and confirm that it's addons before I download and try them. If you have time, and doing the checks virtually, maybe you could neutralize some. Thx.

[slippykillsticks]

I will give it a go.

[Thilo]

Hello Nuhi,

I tried to find out what the reason is for the hang-ups, but it seems to be more unclear the time advances.

First of all, I thought the Addons were the reason, and I removed some of them apparently not working under Windows 2000.
Then the system saved the settings, and I changed something.
I added some ELSA ISDN card drivers, and the setup hanged when trying to detect my hardware, then I removed it, and some times later my windows setup stopped again when saving the settings, at 10 percent or less like before...

Some time later, I tried to remove no components, it was possible that the removal of those killed something essential for the saving of settings under W2K.


Like asked, the last_session.ini is added, the settings were named "Neuanfang" in German, or "new beginning"

Unfortunately, there was no successful beginning...


Isn't there a chance to read the logs unter Windows in general to find out when or why Windows setup hangs up? there are several logs in the windows directory i can export to another drive when pressing "Ctrg-F6" so that the command prompt can be opened...


regards... Thilo

Attached File(s)

•  Neuanfang.ini (26.67K)
  Number of downloads: 11

[nuhi]

Thilo, that's kinda weird. Don't worry about the hardware detection hanging, that can't be nLite's fault, happens with Windows sometimes, or with some drivers.
About the saving settings, there is no log that I know of, it's a part of setup when Windows checks WFP/SFC, probably filling the dllcache.
Try disabling the SFC, this could be a mistake in the new SFC cleanup.

[slippykillsticks]

nuhi,

I have completed a retest using my XP preset on Windows XP, minus addons. I couldn't reproduce the problem. Therefore the problem must be in my addons. My .NET, OpenAL, and InstallShield Addons have not changed recently, but my RyanVM pack/addons have. It must be one of the RyanVM addons.

I will continue my testing with Windows 2000 and report back.

EDIT: I have tested again with Windows 2000 using the same preset but not with addons. Setup locked up at Saving Settings just as before. Additionally, I forgot to mention that I've been getting an error just prior to Performing Final Tasks about "missing sub-component: comsvcs.dll".

This post has been edited by slippykillsticks: 08 July 2007 - 03:09 PM

[nuhi]

Ok now wait until I test the Win2k tomorrow, thx for the help.

[slippykillsticks]

Roger that.

[AgiHammerklau]

I´m quite sure, that it is not an nlite bug.
Using W2K myself, couldn´t reproduce the problem either and tried to help him in the german nlite forum already.
Agi

[nuhi]

AgiHammerklau, if I only read your comment before then I wouldn't try it...but I did and it does stop at the saving settings :\

First issue was that the DTC is removed and it's needed for COM+, ok that solved one issue but it wasn't the one causing the hang. I'm on it.

[nuhi]

slippykillsticks, I think I got it.
Keep the Network DDE service, that should take care of the hang. If you confirm that component will be hidden in Win2k because it's too much work (involves hacking) for only 60kB. It will stay in XP though.

Also it's very recommended to keep the DTC service if you keep Com+, that will solve that comsvcs error.

Let me know how it goes.

[AgiHammerklau]

@slippykillsticks
I´m just curious, I saw you´ve got XP drivers in your W2K ini.
Are the nvidia and via drivers W2K and XP compatible ?
Agi

[slippykillsticks]

@nuhi,

I retested Windows 2000 keeping Network DDE and DTC services. The COM+ subcomponent error disappeared, but setup still locked at "Saving Settings." I have yet to retest XP. but will do so in the next 24 hours.

Also (and I don't mean to bog you down with problems here), but it appears that nLite does not read preset INI information under the [Options] section (at least when nLiting Windows 2000), because although my typical options are listed in my preset INI, I have to change/enter them manually in nLite each time I do an nLite session.

P.S. I did yet another retest with Windows 2000 just to make sure, and it still hangs at "Saving Settings," despite following your recommendations.

@AgiHammerklau,

The drivers I have chosen work fine in Windows 2000. Sometimes XP drivers work in 2K, AFAIK. Even my Creative X-Fi drivers (which I do not integrate) can be forced via support.cab to install and function normally on Windows 2000.

EDIT: Additional information.

This post has been edited by slippykillsticks: 10 July 2007 - 08:30 AM

[xenon2050]

I had a similar problem. I made a image and used in in VMWare and it worked well. Then I decided to change a few of the tweak settings so I fired Nlite up again changed a few things and resaved the ISO. Well for some reason that broke it, it would hang on 9 minutes remaining. So I re-extracted XP and put back my addon and drivers, tweaks and components rebuilt it tried it again in VM and it worked flawlessly. Then I tried it on a PC and it worked!

As a side note, I love this program it is awesome. Thanks for making it.

[nuhi]

slippykillsticks, what can i say, I tested it and with NetworkDDE kept it works. I will retry again to be sure, then I yell at you for not using clean files or some other tampering
Btw presets are loaded for all windows the same. What do you change manually?

xenon2050, thanks for the compliment.
Do you maybe recall how would I be able to repeat that issue? Any changes 2 times with SFC kept enabled I presume?

[slippykillsticks]

nuhi,

Sorry to still have this topic going. Kind of a hard problem to diagnose, I'm sure.

If it works for you, it should work for me (you programmed the darn thing, for god's sake). I'll run through it again just to make sure I didn't mess it up some other way. After all, the problem went away on XP practically on its own.

Thanks for being patient and for continuing to respond.

My OP in this thread (sorry for hijacking it) was not meant as a complaint. I, like xenon2050, fully appreciate nLite and the effort it must take to both program it (on your own time, no less), support a community for it, and take you-know-what from naysayers and crazies. I thought I had discovered a bug and wanted to voice it. As you can see, I post very rarely to begin with.

Thanks again for your work.

This post has been edited by slippykillsticks: 11 July 2007 - 05:15 PM