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rezzo

Problem with rename/move files or folders

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I don't know if I'm the only with this problem.

But after apply the "Vista Performance and Reliability Pack Unofficial Release" in explorer I can't rename or move files/folders.

- Problems with Move files/folders (doesn't work)

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- Problems with Rename files/folders (doesn't work)

th_renamep01.png th_renamep02.png

vLite Windows Vista Ultimate 32bits up-to-date created with vLite 1.0 Final.

Edited by rezzo
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Why are you posting here? vLite can't control file operations.

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vLite has got nothing to do with this, thats right.

I also get this problem after installing the 2 hotfixes. But they are BOTH BETA! A beta from MS, you know what that means. :P

I hope that this is fixed when the fixes get published officially. ;)

BTW, 6666 posts nuhi!!! Do not write anything from now on. :P

Edited by Dynaletik
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Why are you posting here? vLite can't control file operations.

and how is the average user supposed to know that? :whistle:

as most people don't have this problem with the updates, it's obvious you look towards your own setup and what's different about it compared to everyone elses.... and as a vlite user, i also thought the same thing because i have the same problem. ok it's not a vlite problem but you can hardly blame someone for thinking about it. :)

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Dynaletik, haha number of the quad beast.

marc2003, it worked, he applied the hotfixes then it doesn't work. Main possibility is either some antivirus software or hdd controller drivers.

If he thinks that it's vLite then reinstall full Vista, apply hotfixes, see what it does. If it works then reinstall vLited, apply hotfixes and come to conclusion.

I know that vLite came out too early before people learn all the built-in quirks of Vista. And I know 2 people who are using these hotfixes with vLited Vista without any issue.

Bottom line: yeah I could have been more considerate in my reply, sometimes it's just that 6666th post.

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Why are you posting here? vLite can't control file operations.

Because I don't know if is a hotfix problem or a problem with something of my vLite Vista Ultimate installation (i don't know, some hidden devil check of MS). :}

I'm sorry nuhi for open this thread. :blushing:

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right i've just installed a copy of my vlite-d 32bit vista in vmware. competely barebones install. no vmware tools, no software, no drivers.

at first i can create/rename folders no problem. but after installing kb937979 x86 it goes wrong as per the original post and my experience. you cannot rename folders.... so it does "seem" to be a direct relation between a vlited install and these updates. puzzled? i am. you?

i'm now about to try a clean non-vlite install to see how i get on. :)

Edited by marc2003
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marc2003, with that biased attitude you'll have to be specific how to reproduce that issue if you confirm that it's something removed.

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biased attitude

hehe. attitude eh? all i said was seemed in inverted commas..... i wish i hadn't bothered..... :(

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You edited your post to look more friendly and I welcome that.

Anyway I read about this issue all around the net. Could be that they all removed or disabled something. In essence if you compare then if you used unattended with vlite you must copy that same xml file to the full version because it can be due to Administrator user or something like that.

Also it's kb938979, not kb937979.

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Thx rezzo, I followed your pictures and with all removed confirmed the problem.

Now installing full.

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You edited your post to look more friendly and I welcome that.

edited 2 minutes after i posted. the exact change was

"puzzled? i bet you are"

i changed it to

"puzzled? i am. you?

anyway, nvm i just won't bother with these updates. my vista flies along without them (thanks to vlite - i am grateful for that)... :)

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Ok, if I vLite my Vista and install the hotfix I get the problem as told. If I integrate the Hotfix into the Vista-DVD and then vLite and install it, it works! No error, but copying files takes shorter, so the hotfix got installed.

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Oh.

vLite - Unattended - OK

vLite - Unattended + Tweaks - OK

vLite - Unattended + Tweaks + Remove all - Not OK

Gonna see which removal is causing this, my apologies for being defensive but this one is one in a million. I am puzzled.

It probably needs some service running.

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well i vlite-d my disk at least 3 months ago if not more. can't remember what version, sorry....

no tweaks and it wasn't unattended. this is what i remember removing

system restore

windows defender

uac

indexing/search

accessibility options

windows sidebar/welcome centre

drivers

other than that, i left it pretty much as is. i left superfetch alone and didn't disable any other services as far as i can remember. :)

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All Shell32 Updates for Vista are causing this error after modifing the source with vLite. The only known workaround is to integrate shell32.dll fixes into a new DVD.

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It's some specific modification, not all. I managed to go to the half the ISO size and the hotfix still works.

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Oh man...I just noticed this a minute ago...so I came to vlite.net and tcha ~ram!!

"The KB-XXX is causing problems with naming folders bla.."

Oh man..I just did a fresh instal of Vista..theres no workaround?

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If I integrate the Hotfix into the Vista-DVD and then vLite and install it, it works! No error, but copying files takes shorter, so the hotfix got installed.

This may be a question for another thread but I wasn't able to find it. How can you integrate hotfixes into vista DVD before running vlite?

I have just installed another version vLite version without removing the Performance and Reliability components... I'll let you guys know how it goes...

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This might be an issue with the vlite edit thing, as I have yet to find another site that has someone saying they have these problems. A de-activated service or removed component seems the most likely cause.

If this is the case perhaps we should all post our last_session.ini and wether or not your vista compatibility and reliability pack works with it. We could narrow it down then, this is probably a good idea anyway because it would give Nuhi a better idea of what SP1 components are necessary (dependencies etc.) as the changes necessary in SP1 affect some pretty basic stuff so might require certain things.

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Problems with renaming and moving files/folders

On startup (never any other time that i've encountered) I get the following error:

"Explorer.exe - Application Error

The Instruction at 0x09bb0000 referenced memory at 0x09bb0000. The memory could not be read."

The address seems to change, I can't remember hexadecimal strings so you'll have to excuse me for that. Not sure if it is relevant

Last_session.ini



; vLite preset file

[Information]
Version = 1.0 on 2.0.50727.312 Microsoft Windows NT 6.0.6000.0
Target = Windows Vista ULTIMATE 32bit

[Compatibility]

[Components]
;# Accessories #
Accessibility
Mobility Center
Speech Support
Welcome Center
Windows Sidebar and Gadgets
;# Drivers #
Display adapters
Modems
Printers-Apollo
Printers-Brother
Printers-Canon
Printers-Citizen
Printers-Dell
Printers-Diconix
Printers-Epson
Printers-Fuji Xerox
Printers-Fujitsu
Printers-Generic
Printers-Gestetner
Printers-HP
Printers-IBM
Printers-Infotec
Printers-Konica
Printers-Konica Minolta
Printers-Kyocera Mita
Printers-Lanier
Printers-Lexmark
Printers-Minolta
Printers-Minolta-QMS
Printers-NEC
Printers-NRG
Printers-Oce
Printers-Oki
Printers-Okidata
Printers-Olivetti
Printers-Panasonic
Printers-QMS
Printers-Ricoh
Printers-Samsung
Printers-Savin
Printers-Seikosha
Printers-Sharp
Printers-Sony
Printers-Star
Printers-Tally
Printers-Tektronix
Printers-Wipro ePeripherals
Printers-Xerox
Scanners
Sound controllers
;# Games #
Inbox Games
Premium Inbox Games
;# Languages #
Japanese
Korean
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
;# Multimedia #
Media Center
Movie and DVD Maker
Sample Pictures
Screensavers
Wallpapers
Windows Media Samples
Windows Photo Gallery
;# Network #
MSN Installer
Windows Collaboration
Windows Mail
;# Services #
Error Reporting
Offline Files
Remote Registry
Volume Shadow Copy
;# System #
Game Explorer
Manual Install
Microsoft Agent
Natural Language
Parental Controls
Security Center
Sync Center
Tablet PC
Windows Defender
Windows Easy Transfer
Windows SAT

[Options]
UAC (User Account Control) = Disabled
Hibernation = Off
Show hidden files and folders = Yes
Show protected operating system files = Yes
Show extensions for known file types = Yes

[Protection]

[Drivers]

[Unattended]

Edited by Solivagus
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Found the issue, I can't believe that this was causing the issue. Certain reg entries must not be cleaned in the

'HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\FolderDescriptions'.

Components which have this problem are:

Game Explorer

Printer Support

Sidebar

Media Samples

Windows Search

Sync Center

You can remove all other and the KB938979 will work just fine.

Fixed in the next version.

Imagine how stupid this was, now gotta leave those entries there, good thing is that they don't matter once the component is removed, it was more of a cosmetic cleanup.

The fix on the running machine probably would be to uninstall that hotfix, fill in all the default values in that reg key and reinstall the hotfix.

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Ok...wow you were quick! But yeah...i tried unisntalling the hotfix, but the bug remains...wich means...

Format time..again.

Now im going to use that Vista Hotfix Integrator since this Performance patch does wonders for me.

Is it WAIK really necessary?Its almots 900mbs download...30m for me. :(

So this Vista Hotfix Integrator its used before or after the vLiting process???

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