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Problem with rename/move files or folders after apply the KB938979 and KB938194 hotfixes Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   rezzo 

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 03:59 PM

I don't know if I'm the only with this problem.

But after apply the "Vista Performance and Reliability Pack Unofficial Release" in explorer I can't rename or move files/folders.

- Problems with Move files/folders (doesn't work)
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- Problems with Rename files/folders (doesn't work)
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Posted 31 July 2007 - 02:49 AM

Why are you posting here? vLite can't control file operations.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 07:27 AM

vLite has got nothing to do with this, thats right.

I also get this problem after installing the 2 hotfixes. But they are BOTH BETA! A beta from MS, you know what that means. :P
I hope that this is fixed when the fixes get published officially. ;)

BTW, 6666 posts nuhi!!! Do not write anything from now on. :P

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 09:10 AM

View Postnuhi, on Jul 31 2007, 09:49 AM, said:

Why are you posting here? vLite can't control file operations.


and how is the average user supposed to know that? :whistle:

as most people don't have this problem with the updates, it's obvious you look towards your own setup and what's different about it compared to everyone elses.... and as a vlite user, i also thought the same thing because i have the same problem. ok it's not a vlite problem but you can hardly blame someone for thinking about it. :)

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 10:25 AM

Dynaletik, haha number of the quad beast.

marc2003, it worked, he applied the hotfixes then it doesn't work. Main possibility is either some antivirus software or hdd controller drivers.
If he thinks that it's vLite then reinstall full Vista, apply hotfixes, see what it does. If it works then reinstall vLited, apply hotfixes and come to conclusion.
I know that vLite came out too early before people learn all the built-in quirks of Vista. And I know 2 people who are using these hotfixes with vLited Vista without any issue.
Bottom line: yeah I could have been more considerate in my reply, sometimes it's just that 6666th post.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 10:50 AM

View Postnuhi, on Jul 31 2007, 04:49 AM, said:

Why are you posting here? vLite can't control file operations.

Because I don't know if is a hotfix problem or a problem with something of my vLite Vista Ultimate installation (i don't know, some hidden devil check of MS). :}


I'm sorry nuhi for open this thread. :blushing:

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 10:52 AM

right i've just installed a copy of my vlite-d 32bit vista in vmware. competely barebones install. no vmware tools, no software, no drivers.

at first i can create/rename folders no problem. but after installing kb937979 x86 it goes wrong as per the original post and my experience. you cannot rename folders.... so it does "seem" to be a direct relation between a vlited install and these updates. puzzled? i am. you?

i'm now about to try a clean non-vlite install to see how i get on. :)

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 10:56 AM

marc2003, with that biased attitude you'll have to be specific how to reproduce that issue if you confirm that it's something removed.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 11:15 AM

View Postnuhi, on Jul 31 2007, 05:56 PM, said:

biased attitude


hehe. attitude eh? all i said was seemed in inverted commas..... i wish i hadn't bothered..... :(

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 11:20 AM

You edited your post to look more friendly and I welcome that.

Anyway I read about this issue all around the net. Could be that they all removed or disabled something. In essence if you compare then if you used unattended with vlite you must copy that same xml file to the full version because it can be due to Administrator user or something like that.
Also it's kb938979, not kb937979.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 11:33 AM

I don't know if this is useful, my Last Session.ini:

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 11:34 AM

Thx rezzo, I followed your pictures and with all removed confirmed the problem.
Now installing full.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 11:36 AM

View Postnuhi, on Jul 31 2007, 06:20 PM, said:

You edited your post to look more friendly and I welcome that.


edited 2 minutes after i posted. the exact change was

"puzzled? i bet you are"

i changed it to

"puzzled? i am. you?

anyway, nvm i just won't bother with these updates. my vista flies along without them (thanks to vlite - i am grateful for that)... :)

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 12:08 PM

Ok, if I vLite my Vista and install the hotfix I get the problem as told. If I integrate the Hotfix into the Vista-DVD and then vLite and install it, it works! No error, but copying files takes shorter, so the hotfix got installed.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 12:29 PM

Oh.

vLite - Unattended - OK
vLite - Unattended + Tweaks - OK
vLite - Unattended + Tweaks + Remove all - Not OK

Gonna see which removal is causing this, my apologies for being defensive but this one is one in a million. I am puzzled.
It probably needs some service running.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 01:12 PM

well i vlite-d my disk at least 3 months ago if not more. can't remember what version, sorry....

no tweaks and it wasn't unattended. this is what i remember removing

system restore
windows defender
uac
indexing/search
accessibility options
windows sidebar/welcome centre
drivers

other than that, i left it pretty much as is. i left superfetch alone and didn't disable any other services as far as i can remember. :)

#17 User is offline   rezzo 

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 01:34 PM

I touched a lot my services.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 03:21 PM

All Shell32 Updates for Vista are causing this error after modifing the source with vLite. The only known workaround is to integrate shell32.dll fixes into a new DVD.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 03:45 PM

It's some specific modification, not all. I managed to go to the half the ISO size and the hotfix still works.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 07:40 PM

Oh man...I just noticed this a minute ago...so I came to vlite.net and tcha ~ram!!

"The KB-XXX is causing problems with naming folders bla.."

Oh man..I just did a fresh instal of Vista..theres no workaround?

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