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the REAL xp-sp3 pre-beta (private) thats good news - development seems well on its way... Rate Topic: -----

#31 User is offline   matt121 

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 11:29 PM

Hi ive just slipstreamed pre sp3 to xp all worked untill installing the P-Key has been changed and not accepting my cor key.

i had to use the default key on disc but as you would probly know its an 30 day activation job.

i was reading a post from "ricktendo64" stating that he had to mod some files to accept the cor key.

can anyone give me an idea as to how this can be done?

matt121@optusnet.com.au

thanks.


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Posted 17 August 2007 - 11:49 PM

View Postclavicle, on Aug 10 2007, 05:29 AM, said:

Which directx version is contained in sp3?


its possible but not sure July Updated Direct X 9.0c

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Posted 19 August 2007 - 10:35 AM

Nope, there are no directX updates, its the same old dX9c from early 2004.

matt121, no this is not supposed to be done, and any posts related to this can be considered warez.

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Posted 29 August 2007 - 12:26 PM

I got some questions regarding this SP3 beta and the final SP3 (whenever that'll be...)
Once this "beta" or "final" version becomes "available" for the "public". Will it, or should I say... It seems that this beta release is already supported with the current Nlite release(s).
So what I'm wondering is... Would if be safe to slipstream SP3/SP3beta untop a SP2 slipstreamed Gold CD? Or..
Should I use my Gold CD to slipstream this beta or final version, and forget about SP2? Or should I just slipstream SP2 and then SP3?

I've read about that SP3 holds the current hotfixes dated back to SP2, so should it be safe to use RyanVM's Post-SP2 Update Pack (which will probably be renamed to SP3...) untop this SP3 beta or final release? I mean.. wont it interfere with the SP3 hotfixes that are already intergrated when slipstreamed?
This is of course common sense that it would, but since im not sure whatever Ryan's Post-SP2 Update Pack holds all hotfixes dated back prior (I assume it does) to SP2?

I'm also wondering if anyone knows if this goddamned SP3 will contain .NET Framework 2/3?

Edit: I assume that this will be the same case as it was with SP1 > SP2.

This post has been edited by Chrno: 29 August 2007 - 01:15 PM


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Posted 30 August 2007 - 12:05 PM

Firstly, SP3 is unlikely to contain any version of dotnet framework or IE7 or WMP11, or any other *NEW* features. It is all going to be security & stability patches, that is all.

As for the slip-streaming, you should preferably do that on top of your Gold CD.
Why is that? because SP3 contains all updates released previously (including SP1, SP2, and everything from the post-SP2 updt pack). So using a non-Gold-CD as a starting-point, will result in a mess (a mess consisting of XP+SP2+SP3+useless CAB files + orphan leftover junk....)







In short, yes you can forget about SP2. But this beta may not be fully ready for the general public yet, what with its CD-key problems and all.... ;)

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 09:08 PM

Hi could someone pls advise me where i can download win xp sp3 every link i have tried seem to be disbled

cheers

mcmuzzy

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 06:04 PM

View Postmcmuzzy, on Sep 6 2007, 11:08 PM, said:

Hi could someone pls advise me where i can download win xp sp3 every link i have tried seem to be disbled

cheers

mcmuzzy

The beta for XP SP3 is still private, so legally you would have to be part of the private beta (usually being a beta Microsoft customer) or a Technet or MSDN customer, and you would then download it directly from MS. Please don't ask for links to download this, thank you.

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 06:19 PM

YAY MSDN!!!

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 06:31 PM

Yup, MSDN/Technet this month.

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 10:32 PM

So when is the final build going to be released, any news on this?

Seriously, Microsoft should have released this a while ago. Too busy on Vista I guess.

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Posted 08 September 2007 - 12:56 AM

View PostThunderbolt 2864, on Sep 8 2007, 12:32 AM, said:

So when is the final build going to be released, any news on this?

Seriously, Microsoft should have released this a while ago. Too busy on Vista I guess.

Probably when it's done, I'd guess. :) Seriously, though, a service pack just can't screw things up (like, say SP4 for NT4), so this has to bake as long as it takes (as with any release from Microsoft now) until it "just works". Even then it is sometimes not enough, but you can only be so careful I guess with projects this big. As to releasing it earlier, there are some reasons for this (and yes, Vista is one).

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 03:17 PM

hi, it was a long time i was written here.

now, i successfully download this pre-beta of sp3 ;)

but could not install on a german system :(

is there a german sp3 at msdn ??

imho, what i missing in this pre-beta of sp3 is, amdk8 processor driver.

i know that ms will only include security updates but it was nice when the processor drivers included. :)

here is a reply from dosnet.inf

 
[Version]
signature="$Windows NT$"
DriverVer=07/01/2001,5.1.2600.3180


[Directories]
d1 = \I386
d2 = \cmpnents\starter\I386


[Miscellaneous]
ProductType = 4

MinimumMemory = 67108864

DestinationPlatform = i386

[b]ServicePack = 2.0[/b]

 


greeeetzz

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 01:57 AM

it's really a nonsense to release sp3 without IE7 and WMP11 :(
they are the two biggest improvements since SP2

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 04:59 PM

View Postprathapml, on Aug 30 2007, 12:05 PM, said:

As for the slip-streaming, you should preferably do that on top of your Gold CD.
Why is that? because SP3 contains all updates released previously (including SP1, SP2, and everything from the post-SP2 updt pack). So using a non-Gold-CD as a starting-point, will result in a mess (a mess consisting of XP+SP2+SP3+useless CAB files + orphan leftover junk....)


thats true but dont forget that gold cds available where sp2 included. ;)

i also have a gold cd called "enthält (included) servicepack 2".

like this

http://oem.microsoft.com/downloads/product...m/WinXPHome.htm


i wish ms brings a gold cd with sp3 :D

or i hope i can borrow a non sp included xp version ;)



greeetz

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 03:01 PM

Ermm... In the sub-culture of the crowd that would be interested in these kind of things, a "GOLD" release usually refers to a non-beta, RTM, Gold disc delivered to manufacturers for replication. In other words, gold = SP0 (service pack zero, that is the initial release)

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 03:15 PM

"Gold" also refers to "RTM", or release-to-manufacturing, as this is the name of the actual build tree these binaries come from (you can see it on the advanced file properties of system files in the file version string, it is usually in a format something like "<some.file.version.number>_RTM_<some.date.here>".

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 04:01 PM

ive used this pre sp3 on my current XP install off an original XP pro cd i believe. everyting appears to be fine.

would this work ok if i used it on a sp2 cd? would it figureout what i needed and only install those files or would it mess things up?

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 02:05 AM

Indeed, as mentioned above by cluberti as well. So an XP+SP3 disc released by MS wont be called "GOLD" as such.

@nycste
Yes you can slip-stream on top of an SP2 disc, but then you'll be left with orphan files from SP2 on your resulting CD. Prefer the gold disc any day. Also, considering that the SP3 builds currently are just a very little slower in performance (debug turned on?), you might want to wait it out for just a few weeks, the betas will arrive soon enough...

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 08:58 AM

More than likely, yes, they're "checked" and are going through all kinds of assert routines that the RCs and release will not.

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 11:48 AM

View Postprathapml, on Sep 20 2007, 03:01 PM, said:

Ermm... In the sub-culture of the crowd that would be interested in these kind of things, a "GOLD" release usually refers to a non-beta, RTM, Gold disc delivered to manufacturers for replication. In other words, gold = SP0 (service pack zero, that is the initial release)



i know what you wanted to say :) but for me was GOLD-CD not a RTM.

its clear now. ;)

i suggest also integrate sp3 from rtm.

therefore that was why i wanted to say that ms released a new xp version which sp3 included or

i can borrow a rtm cd from my friends (hope) :)

edit: and that was why i bought a new xp cd with sp2 ;)

greetz from austria

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