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Nero Lite v7.11.10.0 & v8.3.13.0 Latest build: 1.18.2.1 [04/08/09] Rate Topic: -----

#261 User is offline   Acheron 

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 10:15 AM

Luckily the current script is less than 100.000 lines in code, but thanks for noticing the new version :rolleyes:

This post has been edited by Acheron: 23 October 2007 - 10:16 AM



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Posted 23 October 2007 - 10:23 AM

Acheron, VC++2005 redist :wacko: you mean you will have to have the .net Framework on your pc i will never install that on my pc y are you changing installers anyways i like the IsTools installer the best i don't even have sp1 or sp2 on my Windows XP 2 also on Windows 2000

also Acheron how come you ignored what i typed on the other page :wacko:

#263 User is offline   Acheron 

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 11:04 AM

View Postjohn2007, on Oct 23 2007, 06:23 PM, said:

Acheron, VC++2005 redist :wacko: you mean you will have to have the .net Framework on your pc i will never install that on my pc y are you changing installers anyways i like the IsTools installer the best i don't even have sp1 or sp2 on my Windows XP 2 also on Windows 2000

also Acheron how come you ignored what i typed on the other page :wacko:


VC++ 2005 Redist doesn't depend on .NET. However it does require Windows Installer 3, which you can find here.
As including also Windows Installer 3.0 is making Nero Lite even more bigger, while most users won't need to install it anyway (Windows XP SP2, Windows Vista).

A new SDK will be released after I bring out Nero 8 Lite.

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 11:22 AM

don't have Windows XP SP2 i only got the 1st Windows XP Pro when it 1st came out no sp1 or no sp2 installed also on my other pc Windows 2000 , now your saying when you release The Nero Lite 8 your going to release the new SDK fore it but is it going to be the same done with IsTools as thats all i know how to use the installer or make a installer with IsTools , also Windows Installer 3 i don't think you can install it for Windows 2000 ? man just keep with the IsTools Installer its nice and good also where can we download the SDK's at seeing as you put a filter thing in your scrip so we cant get to the part to download as i was talking about on the other page

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 05:54 PM

View PostNaDer_GenKO, on Oct 1 2007, 05:10 AM, said:

Thanks Acheron for Nero 7 Lite :thumbup

and i have One question "How i can include Nero ImageDrive to this Package ? " Please

Edit : please Acheron replay to me.
did you see this post ?


There is any one can help me to install 'Nero ImageDrive' silently ??
Or any way to include it in Nero 7 lite (better)

thanks

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Posted 25 October 2007 - 09:54 AM

NaDer_GenKO are you trying to make Nero Lite bigger :blink: we are trying to make it smaller :thumbup

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Posted 26 October 2007 - 12:52 PM

View Postjohn2007, on Oct 25 2007, 05:54 PM, said:

NaDer_GenKO are you trying to make Nero Lite bigger :blink: we are trying to make it smaller :thumbup


Thank you for Response

No this is not my target (make it bigger). you misunderstand me
'Nero ImageDrive' it's very nice program can mount two cd images in same time by create two virtual Drive

just i need to install it because i use it too much

and i need to find a way to include/install it .

I hope you Help me at this.

This post has been edited by NaDer_GenKO: 27 October 2007 - 01:38 PM


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Posted 26 October 2007 - 01:52 PM

STATUS REPORT NERO 8 Lite

I have been spending some time doing resource optimisations. Resource optimisations will be done also for Lite builds, otherwise Nero Lite would become 60 MB or more in size.

This post has been edited by Acheron: 30 October 2007 - 04:54 PM


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Posted 27 October 2007 - 04:32 AM

View PostAcheron, on Oct 26 2007, 09:52 PM, said:

STATUS REPORT NERO 8 Lite

I have been spending some time doing resource optimisations. Resource optimisations will be done also for Lite builds, otherwise Nero Lite would become 60 MB or more in size.
I will bring out a Micro build as beta first since major changes are made. This one is trimmed down to 18.5 MB (English only) setup size.


:thumbup

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Posted 27 October 2007 - 12:46 PM

Acheron 60 MB's WHATTTTTTTTT if you go to Nero.com if you download Nero 8 its 178 MB same as Nero 7 and Nero 7 Lite is 37 MB it should be the same OMG y are you keep adding more 60 MBs is way to much for my likening :wacko: also Nero 7 Micro is 15.9 MB and your adding more to it from the sounds of it on Nero Micro 8 to be 18.5 MB :wacko:

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Posted 27 October 2007 - 01:52 PM

I just want to say Nero 8 doesn't compress very well. I have completed work on resource optimisations for both Nero 8 Micro English and European, so I can predict final filesize now:

Nero 8 Micro English: 18.1 MB
Nero 8 Micro European: 22.8 MB

I still have to do more work on Nero 8 Lite, but filesize should not be much larger than Nero 7 Lite releases.

This post has been edited by Acheron: 27 October 2007 - 01:55 PM


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Posted 27 October 2007 - 02:04 PM

Hi, Acheron

Why you dont try helping me ?!
Please tell me how to install Nero Image Drive with Nero lite

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Posted 27 October 2007 - 02:23 PM

View PostAcheron, on Oct 27 2007, 09:52 PM, said:

I just want to say Nero 8 doesn't compress very well. I have completed work on resource optimisations for both Nero 8 Micro English and European, so I can predict final filesize now:

Nero 8 Micro English: 18.1 MB
Nero 8 Micro European: 22.8 MB

I still have to do more work on Nero 8 Lite, but filesize should not be much larger than Nero 7 Lite releases.


Don't worry Acheron, I think that file size is not a problem (most of forum users use DSL connections so don't care to download 30/40 or 50MB, it's just a matter of minutes).
The best feature of your Lite/Micro packages is that they don't install in your system all the crap included in the official Nero installer (it installs crap even if you uncheck all the option and select Nero Burning Rom only)


View PostNaDer_GenKO, on Oct 27 2007, 10:04 PM, said:

Hi, Acheron

Why you dont try helping me ?!
Please tell me how to install Nero Image Drive with Nero lite


Try DaemonTools, it's better ;)

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Posted 27 October 2007 - 05:21 PM

Also if Acheron use NSIS instead of Inno it would generate smaller installer. NSI has a smaller overhead and the LZMA solid compression its better.

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Posted 28 October 2007 - 01:41 PM

I'm sorry but I need some more time to fix some dependancy problems (VideoCD support/ Nero Digital Encoding). However Windows Vista tests seems not to cause any big problems yet and also activation does work on that platform. So to speed things a bit up I will skip public beta testing and go release final versions when these minor problems are fixed.

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Posted 28 October 2007 - 01:48 PM

View PostLusitano, on Oct 27 2007, 05:21 PM, said:

Also if Acheron use NSIS instead of Inno it would generate smaller installer. NSI has a smaller overhead and the LZMA solid compression its better.


nsis is harder than inno....
but inno compression doesn't loss to nsis compression .. correct me if wrong... =P
acheron keep up bro !

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 11:45 AM

Yes, NSIS is more complicated than Inno, but it supports solid mode for LZMA, and AFAIK Inno doesn't.

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 01:11 PM

View PostLusitano, on Oct 29 2007, 06:45 PM, said:

Yes, NSIS is more complicated than Inno, but it supports solid mode for LZMA, and AFAIK Inno doesn't.


:blink:

You are totaly wrong!

From inno page:

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Includes integrated support for "deflate", bzip2, and 7-Zip LZMA file compression.


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Added support for solid compression, controlled via the new [Setup] section directive SolidCompression. This causes all files to be compressed at once instead of separately. This can result a much greater overall compression ratio if your installation contains many files with common content, such as text files.
Please read the full description in the help file before using this feature; don't just blindly enable it or you may be in for some surprises.


First inform yourself and then talk!

Cheers ;)

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Posted 30 October 2007 - 05:29 AM

I'm sorry, I'm a little outdated about Inno. Some time ago it wouldn't support solid mode for LZMA. But still, NSIS generates lesser overhead than Inno (in my tests), but that's just a mater of kilobytes, no great drama.

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Posted 30 October 2007 - 04:52 PM

I have completed resource optimizations for Nero 8 Lite now. This was a lot of work.

I have also fixed the problems I earlier reported.

Furthermore I have removed some component options to clean up the component selection window a bit. These components are not removed, they are now indeed installed by default.

Another change is that Turkish language will be moved from European to Asian package, so Asian package will contain the following languages now:

Chinese Trad/Simpl, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Russian and Turkish.

Thanks for all support.

P.S. Nero 8 Lite will be 39.5 MB, Nero 8 Micro 19.0 MB for English Language. Releases are planned for tomorrow, both Lite and Micro builds for all languages.

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