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WUD Version 3 Draft Feedback


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I'm preparing to start coding WUD version 3. I'd like to get feedback from you guys and maintain an official list of which features WUD V3 should support. Anything you have to say about WUD and what you'd like to see it keep doing, do better or not do, let me know.
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I'm preparing to start coding WUD version 3. I'd like to get feedback from you guys and maintain an official list of which features WUD V3 should support. Anything you have to say about WUD and what you'd like to see it keep doing, do better or not do, let me know.


a 64 bit version would be nice for people on 64 bit platforms

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a feature to detect if an update is already in the downloaded folder and lets you know so you dont have to re-download the already downloaded updates

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Turn WUD from a downloader to a manager. It has cool features below:
  • automatically update ULs
  • only download updates that are not downloaded yet
  • remove old updates
  • automatically install lots of updates
  • automatically integrate lots of updates to the Windows XP CD
As well it can have additional features below:
  • export a URL list for other download managers to download updates
  • export a batch file to install updates
  • export a batch file to integrate updates
  • after downloading finished, set the date of downloaded updates to the same as the server (that makes perfect original updates)
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Sorry for my poor English

I think your English is darn good.

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hello jcarle.

keep up the excellent work with wud. you can't imagine how helpful this program
has been for all us techs around the world. we all tip our hats to you! i have 2 ideas:

1. i would like to see the option of incorporating a download and resume option
especially for the people who don't have a fast broadband connection or
who are on a time share basis with internet access such as at a internet café..

2. after the fallout of autopatcher incident with Microsoft how about making some
form of authentication for the ul files so that lets say the ul’s posted are verified as
authentic in the sense of the download links are from ms and not from some other place.
maybe designating just several key people to compile the ul's instead of everyone
making them from scratch. ( a download on demand service )? u ask for a specific
batch of files and a custom ul is generated automatically for download.

i hope microsoft doesn't end up destroying the wonderful work you have done...

good luck..

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a feature to detect if an update is already in the downloaded folder and lets you know so you dont have to re-download the already downloaded updates


yes i second this, that would be fantastic :)

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Guys, do keep in mind... I may not have commented much... but I've been reading and following along. I'm brewing up some ideas.

And no, WUD's not going anywhere for the near future, as WUD does not violate the EULA for either the operating systems or the updates since WUD only acquires them like a normal webbrowser would or a download manager.

I'm thinking of adding digital signatures or something of the like to the ULs. And I'm keeping in mind all your ideas thrown around here so far.
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And no, WUD's not going anywhere for the near future, as WUD does not violate the EULA for either the operating systems or the updates since WUD only acquires them like a normal webbrowser would or a download manager.

It does violate WGA as most of the updates it downloads are only available to genuine copies of the OS. Not bashing, just saying.

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Critical updates aren't included in WGA. Anyone can download the monthly "Patch Tuesday" hotfixes regardless of their WGA status. Since WUD only gets the critical updates, it doesn't violate WGA in any way.

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^ since when is Media Player 11 and the HighMAT stuff critical updates? I have a ton of other "optional" files that were downloaded with WUD that are not critical files.

Edited by MrCobra, 07 September 2007 - 09:19 AM.


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Microsoft Windows Media Player 11 Download page

The link is accessible to anyone, without WGA checks. The point of WUD is that the updates you download are freely accessible without any WGA restrictions.

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By the way, most WGA protected downloads, such as WMP11 and IE7 have internal protections that require validation before they will install. WUD does NOT remove those. WUD operates in a completely compliant manner, in the same way as Windows Updates and WSUS.
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I would like to congratulate jcarle for this great tool. I have only one suggestion similar to other said before, but a little diferent:

- Make possible to check which critical uptades has already been integrated to an installation;

I don't know if this is feature would be unnecessary once already exist a way to do this, but I haven't discovered one yet.

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I asked this in one of the 2007 UL threads http://www.msfn.org/...o...008&hl=2007 but ill post it here for all to see

Is there any chance of updating WUD to extract the *.msp files from the updates after downloading?

that way all you have to do is drop the *.msp files into the CD:\Updates folder after WUD downloads them


and about the WGA issues -its too bad Microsoft hasnt released some sort of toolkit for developers to integrate WGA detection into their apps (so WUD could WGA check and if WGA fails restrict downloads to security updates)

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This is a create product to help me at work since we periodically sent out updates to staff in locations with slow or unreliable internet connections. Thanks so much for providing this.

Since we deploy these on a quarterly schedule, it would be useful to have a column with the release date (instead of appending it to the end of the file name) that can be sorted to see which updates have been added since the last download.

Also, the ability to export a batch file that installs all of the selected updates silently would basically do my job for me.

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Also, the ability to export a batch file that installs all of the selected updates silently would basically do my job for me.


I'm sure this might help some:
http://www.msfn.org/...amp;mode=linear

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Vista support would be nice.
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Vista support would be nice.


It works fine on Vista and has update lists for Vista 32 & 64.

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It would be nice if WUD allow us to set (time/date) scheduled downloads.

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I didn't see this thread and I just posted a suggestion here.
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Great tool!

Thanks

Edited by lundholmster, 11 June 2008 - 08:23 AM.


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here is my idea sorry i read the first page if this is a reapeat i appologize but my suggestion is make it so the updater will automatically discover all the new updates i know that is kind of hard would almost have to get server side permissions from microsoft... but see what you can do i love your tool its the best keep up the good work

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1) Please make a sticky for this thread.
2) The program should display original/downloaded files size, it happens that during a bad internet connection the downloaded file could get corrupted (who knows) also it has happened to me I had to close WUD and restart. I only download files one by one to avoid this problem so anything goes wrong I know which file is bad. Similar suggestions here: Downloads issues
3) Thank you :)

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Is this forum still alive? It looks like it's been abandoned. How can I get the most recent release of WUD (3.0), and how can I download all the language files in Windows 7 SP1 32-bit? How can I get the most current ULs for Win7SP1? How can I make my own ULs? I would appreciate any and all help.
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