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i was a bit bored today so i thought id look into installing a secondary OS on here again. theres a suprising number of operating systems out there, most are free. i just thought id share a few with you that you might not have heard about, some are very cool looking, have a hunt on google for screenshots of some of the following:


[size=24:e8c313d057][b:e8c313d057]QNX[/b:e8c313d057][/size:e8c313d057]
Screenshot: http://www.stardock......eruss QNX.jpg

QNX has been around since 1981 and only M$ beats it in terms of longevity as a desktop operating system manufacturer.QNX is easy enough to install and can be installed ontop of windows if you would like (then boot it from floppy) or on its own partition. like XP QNX detects most hardware on install and auto installs the drivers needed for your setup. if you download the full ISO file it comes with many programs and utils, but free software is available all over the net.

download: http://qnx.tucows.com/files/qnxrtp.iso

[size=24:e8c313d057][b:e8c313d057]Atheos[/b:e8c313d057][/size:e8c313d057]
Atheos is pretty young as OS go, its programmed not by a team of people but by one guy called Kurt Skauen. Atheos can be tricky for some to install and requiresa bit of messing around a' la Linux. unlike most OS that are a graphical interface ontop of a command line such as windows or linux, Atheos is graphical right to the core, and offers a 64 bit journaled filling system. might find it harder to find software for this, but it can run many modified Linux programs.

Download / screenshots: http://www.atheos.cx

[size=24:e8c313d057][b:e8c313d057]SkyOS[/b:e8c313d057][/size:e8c313d057]
SkyOS is true open scource code, started early 1999. installing SkyOs might involve changing some of the scourse code, and may only work on some countries keyboards, software is a bit sparse too as the system is so young.

Download / screenshots: http://www.skyos.org/

[size=24:e8c313d057][b:e8c313d057]Linux[/b:e8c313d057][/size:e8c313d057]
Linux comes in many shapes and sizes, or "distros". theres a huge amount of free software for linux, from text editors and office suites to movie editors and media players. Some users might find installing linux a pain, and you should read all the instructions carefully before you try! you will need to know as much info about your hardware as possible for most distros, from the parts installed to the refresh rate of your monitor.
Downloads and screenshots: www.mandrake.com
www.linux.org
www.redhat.com
www.suse.com


anyone got any others to add? BeOS etc?


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having used QNX yesterday, ill say this, if XP didnt exist and it was still windows 98 id dump windows like a brick, QNX is fast, easy as hell to install, and very nice looking, i need to learn some BASH commands though.. i need to be able to do nslookup, ping, tracert, ipconfig and netstat. i didnt install QNX - you can load the OS from the CD to test if it works well on your system, everything was installed for me and i was browsing in under 5 minutes. the browser itself (called voyager) is very good, although i needed to alter the settings as the text on web pages was so small i couldnt read it. its comparable to opera, but i think its the next best thing to IE, it comes with flash plugin ready installed too... now i just need to find an MSN messanger client and ill install the full package (just installing the OS itself only takes up about 64mb!, dont be put off its full of features and is very nice looking)


xper.. thats site has some very exotic sounding systems on it!! jeez theres loads, might try a few for laughs!

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[size=24:d760b305df]LINDOWS[/size:d760b305df]

http://www.lindows.com/



Solaris
VxWorks
BeOS (Available for PCs and Macs)
FreeBSD
VRTX
OSE
OpenBSD
DrDOS
Integrity
TSX32
Super DOS
LynxOS
Plan 9 & Inferno
Petros
eCos (from Redhat)
Elate (formerly TAOS)
Fiasco
Oberon

LIst of all the ones I know that are out there.
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Lindows is just a commercial distribution of Linux with Wine (http://www.winnehq.com) that has been apparantly improved.

And I fear that it will give many people a bad impression to Linux, as I don't feel it will be a good solid product.

As a Linux advocate, I have a hard enough time explaining Linux to people, and the last thing that's needed is Lindows tainting the Linux name. :mad: But maybe people will realize Lindows is not the same as a real Linux distribution like Debian or RedHat.

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why use lindows, just use wine. heres a screenshot of it running mirc on my pc. (hope you dont mind me attaching it)
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Exactly.. No Linux user will want Lindows, And I doubt any Windows user will as well.

Wine is good, and in the past 3 years it has really come a long way. Apparantly Lindows has modified Wine a bit. Will they give their changes back to the Wine project? Not likely. Unfortunatly, Wine is not under the GPL license, So it's perfectly legal.

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I've got Lindows ... lol :)

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I personally think its a great idea, and am going to buy it as soon as the final comes out and the support, bugs etc.. are worked out. My question: will your linux versions run Windows applications like Office XP, Frontpage, etc...? I think that is the point of lindows to be fully functional as a linux operating system while having the ability to run windows Applications.
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i know it can run office, not shure about the vertion, it does atleast '97. it can also run some games, but its still in beta. there are other vertions of it, for example the one that runs the sims that comes in mandrake linux gameing edition.
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I've got Lindows ... lol :) [/quote:833e8622ac]

lol? What's the funny part?

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Just the fact how weird an idea the OS is, and how it will never develop to a viable OS.

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ill try it out, id rather just use linux, but linux doesent like my pc, it hates my sound card (although sound works) it hates my vid card (well.. so do i it sucks a**) and it hates my netgear fa311 NIC card. says unknown device next to them all.

mandrake takes 40 minutes (you heard me 40!!) minutes to boot then runs so slowly i almost fell asleep waiting for the command line to open, never mind LICQ etc... jeez. i so wish it would run... feel like crying :cry
if mandrakes that bad ive no chance getting Suse to run, i need it to work so i can get used to it in the first place never mind trying fixing something i know little about

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ok.. i installed Redmond linux, its working fine apart from Ksnapshot wont run it crashes every time i run it.. maybe if i reboot.
anyway... Redmond linux looks very much like XP.. it was a swiz to install.. it let me play solitare while it did it!!! when i manage to take a screen shot i will.
i cant find krusader... pity i prefered that browser

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qnx sounds like an interesting o/s - even just to play around with and learn from.
any idea of where i could find a downloadable version or get a cd with it on?

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[b:487321cc9c]tubehound[/b:487321cc9c] - read the first post:rolleyes:

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FthrJack, What was it pausing at while booting? If it took that long, it could probably only be one thing: sendmail, which is notorious for holding up a boot if it can't resolve a hostname. It could be any network application if it's trying to lookup some hostname and you have no network access...

You can just add the host to /etc/hosts and it won't need network access to look it up.

Though you said you switched distributions, so it's probably pointless now... At least it wasn't RedHat or Debian that was causing your problems :cool:

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its just mandrake.. it sux! im gonna put debian or red hat on now ive been using redmond for a while, too many bugs in redmond but it was a good distro for me to start with i think as it was easier than XP to install and i had to fix things which got me used to using bash and i learned a few tricks along the way as well as getting used to using other things on the system.

redmond looks sweet but... ill have to try another distro, like,.. one that works properly lol. im enjoying linux a lot.. shouldve used it earlier.

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That's good to hear. :)

If/When you use RedHat/Debian, and need any help, feel free to drop me a line. I'll give ya a hand :cool:

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thankies xxman, might take a while.. red hats ftp server is **** slow! ill find one that isnt restricted so much. :)

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Ah, yeah. Their priority servers are quite faster, but just use a mirror, there are hundreds. Check out http://www.redhat.com/mirrors.html

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im d/ling redhat 7.2 and i was using FlashFXP and getting like 10 kb/sec....then i installed DAP (in spit of speedbits litlle spyware) and im pulling like 40 kb/sec now....anyone recommend a D/L accelerator?

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Flashget, makes as many simultaneous connections as you want (www.amazesoft.com - site is down at time of typing this) DAP only allows 4 connections last time I used it.

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im going to d/l flashget when im done downloading RedHat....right now DAP uses 7 connections...

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DAP works great for me with the right settings and the server is good Ive gotten 500kb/s downloading in the past. Yes it allows 7 connections

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