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#1 User is offline   Marztabator 

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Posted 30 October 2003 - 09:43 AM

I'm trying to organize a multi-boot system and would like both 95 & 98 to be selectable options. However I have OEM versions of both OSes and I think I read somewhere that you wouldn't be able to install one OEM OS while another exists, even if you install to another partition/drive.


Could anyone give me some helpful advice on this one?


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Posted 30 October 2003 - 12:41 PM

Sure it is. Follow this guide from the source :)

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...b;EN-US;q217210

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Posted 03 November 2003 - 07:08 AM

That page doesn't appear to help at all. Darn it.

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Posted 03 November 2003 - 11:09 AM

Sure it does...Just install them in the order that they were released! :)

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Posted 03 November 2003 - 03:27 PM

Not really, it says either Win95, 98 or ME, not a dual boot scenario with 95 and 98

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Posted 03 November 2003 - 05:19 PM

Install win95 first, then 98 on the second partition. Then you will have to edit your config.sys and autoexec.bat files and write code for a boot menu.

Your config.sys file should look something like this:

[common]

[win95]

[win98]

[menu]

Menuitem=win95, Start computer with win95
Menuitem=win98, Start computer with win98
MENUCOLOR=7,0

Your autoexec.bat should look something like this

%goto%config

:win95

c:\windows\win.com
goto end

:win98

d:\windows\win.com

goto end

:end

Someone correct me if im wrong, I havent written config.sys or autoexec.bat files in a long time lol

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Posted 03 November 2003 - 05:25 PM

gamehead200, on Nov 3 2003, 06:09 PM, said:

Sure it does...Just install them in the order that they were released! :rolleyes:

If u install them like that, you wont be able to boot to the win95 installation.

-edit, huh what? How come this appeared after the post i just made then, i posed this before the other one :)

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Posted 04 November 2003 - 08:48 AM

Interesting config.sys idea there........ what would I have to do however if 98 refused to install (even on another partition) because it detected 95?


Also, I wonder if anyone's ever made a successful triple-boot system containing 95, 98 *and* XP? This is something I would particularly like to have one day. :)

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Posted 04 November 2003 - 11:19 AM

Of course. A while back on TechTV they had a guy on the Screensavers who had 37 different operating systems on his PC. :)

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Posted 04 November 2003 - 11:36 AM

Skyfrog, on Nov 4 2003, 06:19 PM, said:

Of course. A while back on TechTV they had a guy on the Screensavers who had 37 different operating systems on his PC.  :rolleyes:

Really? :) Heh! Were they all Windows systems or mixed Windows/Linux stuff?


I've seen an app called AddAWins which supposedly lets you use both 95 & 98, but from what I've read it seems to not actually make a proper boot menu, but instead renames files on both OSes to let you switch between the two on boot-up. This isn't really what I'd want.


I know for XP it's a simple case of installing as normal after 98, but I first need to get both 98 and 95 to co-operate with each other, without any stupid or tricky manouvers like above. Speaking of XP, though, wouldn't that overwrite my custom config.sys boot menu? How would I go about setting it up afterwards?

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Posted 04 November 2003 - 01:29 PM

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Were they all Windows systems or mixed Windows/Linux stuff?


DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux, BeOS, basically everything he could get his hands on. I think he had to use several boot managers and quite a few hard drives.

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Posted 06 November 2003 - 11:52 AM

OSL2000 is an advanced multi boot manager. Using OSL2000, you can easily install, boot and manage up to 100 independent OSs in your computer. The free version has a few nag screens and the registered version doe not have the nags. http://www.osloader.com/

The support section has decent instructions and known issues with the various operating systems. http://www.osloader.com/support.htm

They recommend that you use two hard drives.

Have fun :)

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Posted 09 November 2003 - 04:28 AM

Have you tried using PQBoot (supplied with partition magic)?

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Posted 20 November 2003 - 03:55 PM

MSNwar, on Nov 6 2003, 06:52 PM, said:

OSL2000 is an advanced multi boot manager. Using OSL2000, you can easily install, boot and manage up to 100 independent OSs in your computer. The free version has a few nag screens and the registered version doe not have the nags. http://www.osloader.com/

The support section has decent instructions and known issues with the various operating systems. http://www.osloader.com/support.htm

They recommend that you use two hard drives.

Have fun  :)

I've been examining this app quite well, but the documentation doesn't seem to make clear how I can have 98SE (preferably with 98lite) installed without it detecting 95. Does switching the active partition have anything to do with it?


I do have two hard disks, btw. 40Gb ones to be exact. Split over ten partitions currently.

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Posted 20 November 2003 - 11:43 PM

I have installed 95, 98 xp and even a linux distro all on one drive. rule of thumb is oldest to newest - always worked for me.

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Posted 21 November 2003 - 01:01 AM

Yes, I know about the "oldest-then-newest" rule already. What I'm trying to ask is how is it possible to have both 95 *and* 98 installed on the same computer flawlessly, considering they're both OEM versions. 98SE setup seems to complain, thinking that I'm trying to upgrade 95 when what I really want to do is install 98SE seperately on another drive.

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Posted 23 November 2003 - 02:01 PM

Anyone still got any ideas? :/

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 10:35 AM

Yes, I know that I am "only" one and a half year late, but here is a site that details this kind of dual boot:
http://www.thpc.info/dualboot.html


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Posted 06 February 2005 - 01:47 PM

What would really, really interest me in multibooting, rather than 95(because it's so limited, esp. if it's not the last release) is Freedos-- has none/less limitations of msdos like partition / hard disk size, conventional memory, UDMA, newer peripherals, hard disks, USB, etc. What's most attractive is that it's constantly evolving & getting updated: http://www.freedos.org/

That and linux, solaris... fuhggedaboutit.......

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 02:53 PM

addawins is cool,
shortcuts on the startmenu or desktop boot to your other installs,

it doesn't rename, but makes copies of these files -
AUTOEXEC.BAT
COMMAND.COM
CONFIG.SYS
IO.SYS
MSDOS.SYS
SUHDLOG.DAT
(and any other files that might be added to the root of to C:
when in a given install (it copys the contents back into its backup folders))

this way the other installs just sit in a folder with no other files on the root of the partition and any alterations to say config.sys or autoexec.bat
are only applied to that install when you boot into it.

the pc will act like any install you've booted into is completely alone,
so rebooting during installs for example is not a problem.
i currently run 3 different installs of 98se
i have a core install on C
a DX9 optimized (95 explorer, no apps, forceware & all that) install on D for games
and an experimental and compiling setup on F
:)
miko.

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