MSFN Forum: Black Hibernate - MSFN Forum

Jump to content



Windows Vista Forum Rules

If you have questions about customizing Windows Vista that are vLite-specific, please post them in the vLite forum, not here. If you have questions regarding the unattended installation of Windows Vista, please post them in the Unattended Windows Vista/Server 2008 section.
  • 4 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • Last »
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Black Hibernate Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   MtK 

  • Friend of MSFN
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 909
  • Joined: 02-December 03

Posted 01 September 2007 - 08:51 AM

Hi,
whenever I hibernate my Notebook, I get a black screen, which I cannot tell if is really processing the Hibernate or Monitor went off.
Hibernate takes a long time & HD led works a lot...

Shouldn't I have a screen showing the Hibernate process, like there was in XP?

This post has been edited by MtK: 22 October 2007 - 04:31 AM



#2 User is offline   Marsianin 

  • Junior
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 73
  • Joined: 06-May 07

Posted 02 September 2007 - 03:35 AM

Same thing on my OQO model 02

#3 User is offline   MtK 

  • Friend of MSFN
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 909
  • Joined: 02-December 03

Posted 08 September 2007 - 03:04 AM

Can anyone state if this is a normal behavior?

#4 User is offline   aviv00 

  • Windowaizer
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 910
  • Joined: 02-April 07

Posted 08 September 2007 - 05:52 PM

hey i have this with xp sometimes i duno what's that but its should be err the hibernate cant restore

that what i think

#5 User is offline   cluberti 

  • Gustatus similis pullus
  • Group: Supervisor
  • Posts: 10,936
  • Joined: 09-September 01
  • OS:Windows 7 x64
  • Country: Country Flag

Posted 08 September 2007 - 07:02 PM

If you hibernate, you should see a screen similar to the boot screen telling you that the machine is hibernating, and then the power should go off once that is complete. If it gets "stuck", that's definitely a problem. However, there's a hotfix for this that you can request online. If that doesn't work, it's most likely your network adapter (or in the case of wireless, also possibly the wireless access point or router) causing the issue.

#6 User is offline   MtK 

  • Friend of MSFN
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 909
  • Joined: 02-December 03

Posted 08 September 2007 - 11:48 PM

View Postcluberti, on Sep 9 2007, 04:02 AM, said:

If you hibernate, you should see a screen similar to the boot screen telling you that the machine is hibernating, and then the power should go off once that is complete. If it gets "stuck", that's definitely a problem. However, there's a hotfix for this that you can request online.

It doesn't get stuck (usually), but I do have some fingerprint issues (as stated on the HOTFIX).
I'll try that, 10x...

View Postcluberti, on Sep 9 2007, 04:02 AM, said:

If that doesn't work, it's most likely your network adapter (or in the case of wireless, also possibly the wireless access point or router) causing the issue.

can you please elaborate a little about this issue?
(I won't be surprise if this is the case)

#7 User is offline   cluberti 

  • Gustatus similis pullus
  • Group: Supervisor
  • Posts: 10,936
  • Joined: 09-September 01
  • OS:Windows 7 x64
  • Country: Country Flag

Posted 09 September 2007 - 02:03 AM

View PostMtK, on Sep 9 2007, 01:48 AM, said:

can you please elaborate a little about this issue?
(I won't be surprise if this is the case)

Sure - almost all hibernation issues with XP (and now Vista) seem to be related to poor network driver support, and those match the symptoms you described. Most cases I've come across or read about on the web related to the actual NIC, but I've heard of a few issues where having the AP or wireless router enabled caused the issue, and replacing the router fixed it as well. You could test if it was your NIC or not by disabling it in device manager and rebooting to see if hibernation behavior changes at all.

#8 User is offline   MtK 

  • Friend of MSFN
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 909
  • Joined: 02-December 03

Posted 09 September 2007 - 03:28 PM

View Postcluberti, on Sep 9 2007, 11:03 AM, said:

Sure - almost all hibernation issues with XP (and now Vista) seem to be related to poor network driver support, and those match the symptoms you described. Most cases I've come across or read about on the web related to the actual NIC, but I've heard of a few issues where having the AP or wireless router enabled caused the issue, and replacing the router fixed it as well. You could test if it was your NIC or not by disabling it in device manager and rebooting to see if hibernation behavior changes at all.

1. Request the HOTFIX + Installed + Restarted.
2. Disabled the NIC (Wireless) + Restarted.

no good, I still have a black, long lasting Hibernate process.

I must state again, that the process does finish eventually...

#9 User is offline   cluberti 

  • Gustatus similis pullus
  • Group: Supervisor
  • Posts: 10,936
  • Joined: 09-September 01
  • OS:Windows 7 x64
  • Country: Country Flag

Posted 09 September 2007 - 10:36 PM

Hmmmmm - perhaps you could configure the box for a complete dump, and then when the problem occurred again you could dump it while the hard disk is spinning like that?

#10 User is offline   MtK 

  • Friend of MSFN
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 909
  • Joined: 02-December 03

Posted 10 September 2007 - 12:28 AM

View Postcluberti, on Sep 10 2007, 07:36 AM, said:

Hmmmmm - perhaps you could configure the box for a complete dump, and then when the problem occurred again you could dump it while the hard disk is spinning like that?

I could, but again the computer is not hanging (certainly not crashing), it just take too loooooong... :rolleyes:

#11 User is offline   cluberti 

  • Gustatus similis pullus
  • Group: Supervisor
  • Posts: 10,936
  • Joined: 09-September 01
  • OS:Windows 7 x64
  • Country: Country Flag

Posted 10 September 2007 - 10:50 AM

View PostMtK, on Sep 10 2007, 02:28 AM, said:

I could, but again the computer is not hanging (certainly not crashing), it just take too loooooong... :rolleyes:

Right, and a memory dump at about halfway through the "wait" you are doing would tell us what is happening.

#12 User is offline   geo411m 

  • Junior
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 78
  • Joined: 03-June 05

Posted 10 September 2007 - 07:14 PM

i can confirm i'm having the problem too. i thought that was how vista hibernated.

#13 User is offline   MtK 

  • Friend of MSFN
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 909
  • Joined: 02-December 03

Posted 10 September 2007 - 11:44 PM

View Postgeo411m, on Sep 11 2007, 04:14 AM, said:

i can confirm i'm having the problem too. i thought that was how vista hibernated.

me 2, until I saw otherwise...

#14 User is offline   cluberti 

  • Gustatus similis pullus
  • Group: Supervisor
  • Posts: 10,936
  • Joined: 09-September 01
  • OS:Windows 7 x64
  • Country: Country Flag

Posted 11 September 2007 - 12:45 AM

I'm not sure it should take a long time - my laptop hibernates in about 20 seconds, and even that is slow compared to my desktop (I know, hard disk spindle speeds, etc).

#15 User is offline   tyusaf 

  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1
  • Joined: 03-September 07

Posted 11 September 2007 - 09:22 AM

I can confirm that it does take a long time (few mins) on my hp nc8430 laptop, but it does always finish. I usually pull all my usb cables, press hibernate and pop it in my bag. Never failed me yet.

Bag does get toasty for a few mins though...

--Tosh

This post has been edited by tyusaf: 11 September 2007 - 09:23 AM


#16 User is offline   MtK 

  • Friend of MSFN
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 909
  • Joined: 02-December 03

Posted 11 September 2007 - 12:49 PM

View Posttyusaf, on Sep 11 2007, 06:22 PM, said:

I can confirm that it does take a long time (few mins) on my hp nc8430 laptop, but it does always finish. I usually pull all my usb cables, press hibernate and pop it in my bag. Never failed me yet.

Bag does get toasty for a few mins though...

--Tosh

does it show the Hibernation progress bar?

#17 User is offline   geo411m 

  • Junior
  • Pip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 78
  • Joined: 03-June 05

Posted 11 September 2007 - 07:47 PM

I also have an HP laptop and when i hibernate the screen goes immediately black and then harddrive grinds for about 2 minutes. there's no progress bar like in xp.

#18 User is offline   MtK 

  • Friend of MSFN
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 909
  • Joined: 02-December 03

Posted 12 September 2007 - 01:41 AM

cluberti, on Jan 8 2007, 09:21 PM, said:

5. The next time that the system is exhibiting the problem you were asked to dump the machine for, hold down the RIGHT CTRL key and press the SCROLL LOCK key twice to cause the machine to bugcheck and create a memory dump. After the box comes back up, you'll find the resulting memory dump file in %systemroot%\memory.dmp that can be analyzed.

How should this be done for my Hibernation problem?
During the Black-Out?

This post has been edited by MtK: 12 September 2007 - 05:11 AM


#19 User is offline   MtK 

  • Friend of MSFN
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 909
  • Joined: 02-December 03

Posted 12 September 2007 - 05:18 AM

BTW, I'm having troubles adding the Full Memory Dump.
I have Kernel Dump & Small Memory Dump - is this good enough?

#20 User is offline   cluberti 

  • Gustatus similis pullus
  • Group: Supervisor
  • Posts: 10,936
  • Joined: 09-September 01
  • OS:Windows 7 x64
  • Country: Country Flag

Posted 12 September 2007 - 07:16 AM

If you can't do the complete, don't fret - set everything else as needed, and then make the following registry change (reboot required):

Key:   HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CrashControl
Value: CrashDumpEnabled
Type:  REG_DWORD
Value: 1


You still won't see complete dump in the GUI, but as long as this is set it will do a complete dump (don't click OK in the GUI after setting this either, or it will change it back to kernel or mini).

Share this topic:


  • 4 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • Last »
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users



All trademarks mentioned on this page are the property of their respective owners
Copyright © 2001 - 2011 msfn.org
Privacy Policy