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#101
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Hi Aviv00
I can see that you do have great experience with server 2008. Can you please help me with some services please..
I use Server 2008 Enterprise x64 as Workstation ONLY, i dont need any server services, but i really dont know which services to disable while having my workstation and surfing and remote desktop as well.
Could you please tell me which services i can safely disable and have my remote desktop, surfing, and workstation stuffs (desktop experience)

Thank you


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Microsoft-Windows-Branding-SE-Server-Package
required for branding the server edition (otherwise there will be no visual indiaction of wat server is using)

btw
Microsoft-Windows-BLB-UI-Package
Microsoft-Windows-IIS-*
and few packages i shown in pic couldnote be removed, why they can't ??
and where are these files (those install and config ) inside the wim ??
which of them break net connectivity ( via LAN or dialup) ?

Edited by Innocent Devil, 09 June 2008 - 12:12 PM.

"The level of security that Vista is trying to achieve to protect video and audio is more extreme than anything the US government has ever considered necessary for protecting its most sensitive classified data."

Read Full Article @ [A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection]

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hello shahed26

i added my services list tho i didn't disable much of them
cos like that the system is more stable

FMO u wont gain significant change

u are not satisfied with ur os speed and response ?

GL


@Innocent Devil
thx for the info i was looking for that package

about the packages u cant remove use

start /w pkgmgr /o:d:\Work\WimMount;d:\Work\WimMount\Windows /up:%1 /l:log

echo %ERRORLEVEL% %ERRORLEVEL% %ERRORLEVEL% %ERRORLEVEL% %ERRORLEVEL% %ERRORLEVEL%

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Edited by aviv00, 09 June 2008 - 12:18 PM.


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Hi Aviv00
Thanks for your services Attachment. Ofcourse am happy with the speed and reliability (its great), i thought i might as well disable some unneeded services, end of the day i have a powerful spec pc, so it does not really matter, but just for my convenience i thought disable some unneeded services
Thanks

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me too stuck at 74 packages
am also getting 1168 err on pkgmgr but it works fine after vliting

all the 74 packages can be uninstalled from the offline image but not Removed (may be not ALL but most of them)

uninstall using
peimg /uninstall=<pkgname> <mountpoint>
the duno turn up in add roles/features but peimg lists it.

but how to REMOVE them from image ???

Edited by Innocent Devil, 12 June 2008 - 05:06 AM.

"The level of security that Vista is trying to achieve to protect video and audio is more extreme than anything the US government has ever considered necessary for protecting its most sensitive classified data."

Read Full Article @ [A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection]

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@Innocent Devil

but how to REMOVE them from image ???


use "peimg /list /verbose /image=d:\work\wimmount\windows"

to know the full name package

for exmple Microsoft-Windows-DFSR-ServerEdition-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.0.6001.18000


[Offtopic]

btw im testing w7 now i success to remove 700mb & there are more packages there to remove [vs vista]
[ms changed it so its will be more Customizable to user with waik ofc]

Image Index: 4
-------------------
Name: Windows Vista ULTIMATE
Description: Windows Vista ULTIMATE
Flags: ULTIMATE
Files: 40544
Folders: 7567
Expanded Size: 7604 MB

i could remove more but just for testing for now

Edited by aviv00, 12 June 2008 - 06:00 AM.


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thats the problem we facing nw , we can uninstall the package but not able to remove from image.

i think all those packages go and hide in winsxs making it hard to remove

actally i dunno how the servicing stack works,
from whre it extracts the package files and installs during a CBS?
i couldnt find any cabs related to the packages in a wim
from wer they trun up during sbs-ing ?
"The level of security that Vista is trying to achieve to protect video and audio is more extreme than anything the US government has ever considered necessary for protecting its most sensitive classified data."

Read Full Article @ [A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection]

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well its could maybe cos same package is dep on another one

sorry, i duno about the cbs or the system how it works

Edited by aviv00, 12 June 2008 - 01:43 PM.


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all the 74 packages can be uninstalled from the offline image but not Removed (may be not ALL but most of them)

but how to REMOVE them from image ???


Use Unlocker v1.8.7 to remove locked stuffs from Wim. image
Link:
http://ccollomb.free...locker1.8.7.exe

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hi all,

i try to slim down win2008 std. server
using vlite v1.2b

for now i reached this one (gives me an 716mb iso) with areo theme working:

Posted Image

but, there are about 19 hidden components.
how can I get access to them?

the command 'extreme' like this:
"D:\Tools\vLite\vlite.exe" -extreme
i try'd it via shortcut and cmd.

will not change anything.

cu

alice

Edited by derhans, 12 June 2008 - 11:40 PM.


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@derhans
the hidden componets might due to compatibility issues (if u click halo2 in compatibility tab, secondary logon goes hidden and so on for other components, chek them individually)

@shahed26

its not bcoz of file access issue, but how to locate the stuff in the wim

do u know were the "Windows-IIS-Webserver-Addon2-Package" files reside in the wim ?
(der r more of that sort of componets)
ofcoz once u know the files and its location it dey can be removed with or without unlocker
(am too a core user of unlocker)

@aviv00

found a clue:
the just above Packages in the software hive is PackageDetect
i think this determines the package dependencies
its subkey Microsoft-Windows-Foundation-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~0.0.0.0
has all the package dependencies
may be removing the package name from der allows removing of the packages.
most of them have a value 3 and few of them have value 4 (REG_DWORD)

i didn't got enough time to verify this.
plz check it.

Edited by Innocent Devil, 13 June 2008 - 02:43 AM.

"The level of security that Vista is trying to achieve to protect video and audio is more extreme than anything the US government has ever considered necessary for protecting its most sensitive classified data."

Read Full Article @ [A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection]

Don't be lame [Linux is NOT Windows]

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@Innocent Devil

sometime i had the problem u did

and i remove again the packages from the original
and it did solve the problem

Edited by aviv00, 14 June 2008 - 01:54 PM.


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This is an excellent resource -- thanks for taking the time to research this and put it together. I got Server 2008 down to a ~400MB ISO and ~1GB install with WAIK and vLite, and I'm able to use Desktop Experience (I only preserved Windows Photo Gallery as it's needed for Picasa) and Wireless LAN support. Also kept .NET.

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lol im noob like u
i success to do that with lots of testing[about 2 weeks] and didn't fully understand what im doing

Ok

as u understand i done it with testing so cant ensure its will go easily :)

Guide How to Remove Packages with WAIK [ Could be use on Vista as well ]


use the original install.wim
hive in to regedit.exe the software [in system32\config\]

export to the packages
with notpade replace
"Visibility"=dword:00000002
to
"Visibility"=dword:00000001

save it and import it back to regedit.exe [ click it twice, u should take owner and full access first]

remove the Owners dirs of all the packages [ save it from time to time so u wont get mistake and need to go back]

save the hive with unhive it [ save the wim changes]
use Windows SIM [ WAIK] to make the new clg file

start to make answer file to remove those packages u dont need [edit at 12.6: use <package action="remove" permanence="permanent">]

if u get error like 1023 or 1623 i dont remember u should rebulid the image with vlite [or start remove comps with it and rebulid, do that after u remove all the possable]

TIPS:

server 32bit have 201 packages i success to remove till 74 packages left after remove comps with vlite
those others that get those error i was talking before was able to remove now [ duno why ]

u dont need to remove the lang pack of any package if u remove the main the lang pack of it should go too

if u remove the server lang pack the while the install u will get error

Go extreme with vlite & Server
if u want to remove winsxs as well and still have the aero
remove the pending.xml in winsxs dir [install.wim]

tell me about ur exp. with it :)
GL man

I can't do "take owner and full access"
My OS is Vista, any help?

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could u give me picture to look ?



Hi Aviv00
Thanks for your services Attachment. Ofcourse am happy with the speed and reliability (its great), i thought i might as well disable some unneeded services, end of the day i have a powerful spec pc, so it does not really matter, but just for my convenience i thought disable some unneeded services
Thanks


[Services]
AELOOKUPSVC = Automatic (Delayed Start)
CRYPTSVC = Automatic (Delayed Start)
DPS = Automatic (Delayed Start)
EVENTSYSTEM = Automatic (Delayed Start)
IKEEXT = Manual
LANMANSERVER = Automatic (Delayed Start)
MPSSVC = Manual
NLASVC = Automatic (Delayed Start)
NSI = Automatic (Delayed Start)
REMOTEREGISTRY = Manual
SECLOGON = Automatic (Delayed Start)
SLUINOTIFY = Disabled
TERMSERVICE = Automatic (Delayed Start)
THEMES = Automatic
TRKWKS = Automatic (Delayed Start)
WINMGMT = Automatic (Delayed Start)
WUAUSERV = Disabled

here its as config file

Edited by aviv00, 13 September 2008 - 07:31 PM.


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What's the best config of vlite for server 2008 ?
I'm going to install SQL server 2005 and Visual Studio 2008 on server 2008.
I need IIS and Desktop Experience features.
pls help me.

Edited by kr0nx, 16 November 2008 - 02:30 PM.


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here a link to my updated ini
hope u find it useful

http://www.2shared.c...a3/presets.html

about the desktop exper and iis use waik to pre install them

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Thank you so much aviv00 ! 716 MB of server 2008 set up & it took only 2.5 gb of hdd space (without paging file and hibernate).
I was surprised to see performance improvement...it took only 7 mins to install SQL 2005 Developer Edition. On vista and xp it takes approx 15 - 20 mins :thumbup
Special thanks to nuhi for nLite and vLite :)

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here a link to my updated ini
hope u find it useful

http://www.2shared.c...a3/presets.html

about the desktop exper and iis use waik to pre install them


Could you make an updated .ini that gives you the slimmest possible image without disrupting the 'add/remove' function?

This way people can tailor their own config by deselecting whatever needs to remain.

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i think saving "help" and winsxs is enuf for saving the add/remove feather
try run on vmware or any other app for that and test it im not sure

but why do that while u have waik to pre install what u like
u could then make iso much less and the install size much smaller

cos then u delete the backups files = like 500mb [ just by pre install it]
and the backup files to feathers = like 300mb or even more to install size [ with winsxs removal using vlite ]
its the best way

but 2.5giga is not small enuf for u ? why?


Thank you so much aviv00 ! 716 MB of server 2008 set up & it took only 2.5 gb of hdd space (without paging file and hibernate).
I was surprised to see performance improvement...it took only 7 mins to install SQL 2005 Developer Edition. On vista and xp it takes approx 15 - 20 mins :thumbup
Special thanks to nuhi for nLite and vLite :)


np kr0nx :)

its was vista sp1 ?

Edited by aviv00, 17 November 2008 - 02:38 PM.


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Ok, this thread has got me :wacko: .

I installed WAIK. I have the Server 2008 x64 Install.wim file loaded.

1. I can see a bunch of packages. How can I remove them? I'm using the GUI.

2. What is this pre-install of components?

3. WAIK doesn't actually remove anything... it just disables the packages from installing?


:wacko:

Can someone point me to Step 1 please.

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@ brucevangeorge

1. check post num 1 pls u will see how to remove packages but its a lot of work im not recommand to do it

install web edition much smaller and less packages [ same packages are not included in this version so that why its smaller and ]


2. What is this pre-install of feathers?
u cant pre-install components just config them ;)

but feathers via feathers foundstion in waik [ after u load the clg file or create it]
u will see a list in the right add it to answer file and enable what u like
check the post number 1 for more info

3. well with this method u could remove it completely or disable it with peimg.exe

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2. What is this pre-install of feathers?
u cant pre-install components just config them ;)

but feathers via feathers foundstion in waik [ after u load the clg file or create it]
u will see a list in the right add it to answer file and enable what u like
check the post number 1 for more info

3. well with this method u could remove it completely or disable it with peimg.exe


Ahhh. So I can delete WinSXS and still have Aero like Vista.

That's my main concern. I just want to clean out the WinSXS folder and all the reduntant files connected to it.

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there no reduntant files, the files inside the Windows and system32 folder are hardlinks to the files in the WinSxS folder
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Just a quick confirmation: is "feathers" = "features"?




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