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HOWTO create a fully up to date XP x64 DVD (March 2014)

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Only a question, are all the listed hotfixes critical?

edit: sorry, high priority onwards right?

Was giving Kurt_Aust a chance to answer this, but since you brought me into it I'll answer with the following quote.

Optional items and groups are described in green (as are their security updates)

Now onto what I can answer...

[...] both lists are called as high priority only

I never say that:

[My] Update Pack satisfies, within reason, all high priority updates on the Microsoft Update website and includes some other useful updates.

This is the reason Kurt_Aust's list and mine do not match. Some additional updates I include supersede high priority updates, so I remove those updates from my high priority list.

I analyzed [Kurt_Aust's] list, there are 2 hotfixes not added [...] but included on 5eraph's pack, should I add them?:

KB967715 Windows Shell (AutoRun enforcement)
KB2510581 - JScript and VBScript Scripting Engines v5.7

KB2510581 is on my list due to the inclusion of additional update KB955360. Otherwise, it is not needed.

Microsoft seems to have reclassified KB967715. It is no longer high priority (as in, offered as such on the Microsoft Update website). Kurt_Aust seems to have removed it from his list for this reason. The files included with the update have most recently been replaced by those in update KB2691442. I keep KB967715 because it adds the following registry entry that the website no longer checks:

HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer","HonorAutoRunSetting",0x10001,1
The choice to use KB967715 is up to you. I suppose I should move KB967715 to the Additional Updates list. Thanks for noticing the discrepancy. :)

Edited by 5eraph, 06 April 2013 - 07:02 PM.



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"Optional items and groups are described in green (as are their security updates)"

ok, ok! I'm using a dark style (using stylish addon here) and didn't notice the description color, only the @ green color.

I also failed on registering your "Additional Updates" as included Updates, by some reason I just thought you had included solely the first block. So I will do the recount again, and check differences, now that I realize you have included much more updates than Kurt. What I want to ask is how are "Optional Updates" dealt, do I need to edit any file for this?


Ok, here is the summary taking into account your Optional and additional updates (in comparison to Kurt_Aust's list):

The next hotfixes are not included in the 5er_UpdatePack:

KB950974 - Event System
KB950762 - Pragmatic General Multicast (PGM)
KB952004 - Distributed Transaction Coordinator (MSDTC)
KB956802 - Graphics Device Interface (GDI)
IMAPI_SRV2003_x64.exe
KB960803 - Windows HTTP Services
KB943729 - Group Policy Preference Client Side Extensions
KB967723 - TCP/IP
KB2347290 - Print Spooler Service
KB2360937 - Local Procedure Call
KB2478960 - Local Security Authority Subsystem Service (LSASS)
KB2509553 - DNS Resolution
KB2506212 - Fax Cover Page Editor
KB2794119 - Time Zone - Cumulative


Then I would do the opposite, list the hotfixes on 5eraph's pack not included on Kurt_Aust's list, but since they are the majority, for the Optional and Additional Updates I'll list only the few that are present, the rest are lacking:

Updates on 5eraph's pack lacking on Kurt's list:

KB967715 - Windows Shell (AutoRun enforcement) (* Already explained)
KB2510581 - JScript and VBScript Scripting Engines v5.7 (* Already explained)


From Optional and Additional, only the next are present, the rest are lacking in Kurt_Aust's list:

KB925876 — Remote Desktop Connection 6.0
KB931125 — Microsoft Root Certificates (December 2012)
KB971029 — AutoPlay
KB2492386 - Application Compatibility update (April 2011)
KB925066 — Volume Shadow Copy
KB936357 — Update.sys driver
KB942288 — Windows Installer 4.5
KB944043 — Windows 2008 read-only domain controller compatibility pack
KB955417 — Protected Storage
KB955704 — exFAT File System
KB960680 — Currency symbol update
KB971314 — Spooler Setup INF
KB982316 — Windows Telephony Server
KB2264107 - NT Layer DLL and WebDAV Mini-Redirector
KB2598845 - Compatibility View list update (October 25, 2011)
KB2661254 - Crypto API32
KB2758694 - Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 SP3
KB2758696 - Microsoft XML Core Services 6.0 SP2

Edited by Dogway, 06 April 2013 - 10:42 PM.


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how are "Optional Updates" [in 5eraph's update pack] dealt, do I need to edit any file for this?

All listed updates are included. There's no easy way to remove individual updates from the pack. Kurt_Aust's list offers much greater flexibility.

The next hotfixes [from Kurt_Aust's list] are not included in the 5er_UpdatePack:

[...]

I'll explain this list in numerical order here as it applies to update pack v2013-03_2:


KB943729 Replaced by additional update KB982051.

KB950762 Replaced by additional update KB2028773. Also added to the update pack is the following registry entry suggested by KB961605:
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\RMCAST\Parameters","MaxpacketSize",0x10001,0x400000
KB950974 Replaced by additional update KB968447.

KB952004 Replaced by additional update KB979919.

KB956802 Replaced by additional update KB2279637.

KB960803 Replaced by high priority update KB2638806. Kurt_Aust includes KB960803 because the Microsoft Update website erroneously checks for a specific registry entry related to it.

KB967723 Replaced by additional update KB2309312. The following registry entries from KB967723 are kept in the update pack that are not included in the newer update:
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EventLog\System\Tcpip","EventMessageFile",0x00020000,"%SystemRoot%\System32\netevent.dll;%SystemRoot%\System32\ws03res.dll;%SystemRoot%\System32\w03a3409.dll"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\EventLog\System\Tcpip6","EventMessageFile",0x00020000,"%SystemRoot%\System32\netevent.dll;%SystemRoot%\System32\ws03res.dll;%SystemRoot%\System32\w03a3409.dll"
KB2347290 Replaced by additional update KB2480118.

KB2360937 Replaced by additional update KB2480093.

KB2478960 Replaced by additional update KB2539164.

KB2506212 Replaced by additional update KB2584577.

KB2509553 Replaced by additional update KB2669182.

KB2794119 Replaced by additional update KB2829069.

IMAPI_SRV2003_x64.exe Included in the update pack as additional update KB952011.

From Optional and Additional, only the next [updates] are present, the rest are lacking in Kurt_Aust's list:

If a comment is to be made on this list, Kurt_Aust should be the one to do so.

Edited by 5eraph, 07 April 2013 - 01:47 AM.


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So cool, I was already leaning towards your pack for convenience, but maybe this helps Kurt_Aust to update his list, it's always nice to have a more flexible alternative. I applause your choice to leave out a few components (Search, etc), I can't tell what else would I have liked or not until I run a VM test. Malicious Software probably couldn't be needed since there are now Microsoft Security Essentials or much many thirds AV solutions.

Thanks for all the help.

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You're welcome, and thanks for the compliment.

For clarification, Kurt_Aust's list serves a different purpose. He avoids request-only updates that Microsoft suggests may need more testing.

A supported hotfix is available from Microsoft. However, this hotfix is intended to correct only the problem that described in this article. Apply this hotfix only to systems that are experiencing the problem described in this article. This hotfix might receive additional testing. Therefore, if you are not severely affected by this problem, we recommend that you wait for the next software update that contains this hotfix.

Given that limitation, Kurt_Aust's list is just as current as mine according to the Microsoft Update website. More so when you realize he tracks .NET and third-party applications in addition to OS updates. My pack is more like a supplement to his list.

Edited by 5eraph, 07 April 2013 - 04:46 PM.


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Yes, that's something I just realized when trying to "update" manually his list. There's no reason, however, to distrust your pack after all the time and people that might have used it successfully, but good thing to keep it noted.

edit: btw a question, XP x64 has DirectX 9.0c already installed in it, is it?, yet I recently saw a newer pack of DirectX 9.0c (it's called re-release) with a newer date (4/18/2011). Inside it includes also x64 cabs, should I install it?

DirectX 9.0c v8.0.7600.16385 CRC 0F024BFA
DirectX 9.0c v9.0.8112.16421 CRC 9ECD3C73 with date 4/18/2011

Edited by Dogway, 07 April 2013 - 09:49 PM.


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Clearly coming late to this party, that's what you get for going away for the weekend (also away this coming weekend, as such this month's update might be late).

As 5eraph has noted his pack includes a large number of hotfix by request patches, in the very early days of 5eraph's pack I encountered some application incompatibilities when using it, mind you it has been several years since I've had such an error.

As to whether using 5eraph's pack or publicly released hotfixes is "better", there is no clear answer (I use 5eraph's packs on my systems). The publicly released hotfixes have had more extensive testing but on the other hand the HbR patches fix (admittedly rarely encountered) problems with Windows XP x64.

The updated DirectX files in the June 2010 redist pack (re-released 18 Apr 2011) mainly include performance fixes for game use, so while there is no security issues if you don't install it, I'd still recommend you install it.

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To save Kurt_Aust's time updating his list,

April 2013 Patch Tuesday

Windows XP x64
KB number | Bulletin | Patched component | Download page ID | Replacement

KB2817183-x64 | MS13-028 | IE | 38364 38373 | Replaces KB2809289 (MS13-021) and KB2797052 (MS13-010)
KB2813345-x64 | MS13-029 | mstscax (rdp6.1) | 38266 | No replacement
KB2813170-x64 | MS13-031 | Kernel | 38308 | Replaces KB2799494 (MS13-017)
KB2820917-x64 | MS13-033 | csrss (winsrv.dll) | 38279 | Replaces KB2646524
KB2808735-x64 | MS13-036 | win32k.sys | 38243 | Replaces KB2778344
KB890830-x64 | | MSRT 4.19.7304.0 | 9905 | Old MSRT
Flash Player 11.7.700.169 | APSB13-11 | | Direct link

EDIT: Fix typo. It's KB2808735 not KB2828735.

Edited by Explorer09, 28 April 2013 - 11:50 AM.


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12 months to go

April updates

Deletions:
Hotfix\440-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2646524-x64-ENU.exe
Hotfix\560-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2778344-x64-ENU.exe
Hotfix\564-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2799494-x64-ENU.exe
Hotfix\908-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2797052-x64-ENU.exe
Hotfix\920-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2809289-x64-ENU.exe

Replace:
# . RunOnce\install_flash_player_11_active_x.exe .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16,940,424 . Updated 9 April

Additions:
@ . . . Hotfix\576-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2820917-x64-ENU.exe .. . . 936,056 . MS13-033 - Client/Server Run-time Subsystem (CSRSS)
# . Hotfix\580-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2813170-x64-ENU.exe . . 7,926,904 . MS13-031 - Kernel
@ Hotfix\584-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2808735-x64-ENU.exe . . 4,380,808 . MS13-036 - Kernel-Mode Driver
# . Hotfix\920-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2817183-x64-ENU.exe 45,255,288 . MS13-028 - Cumulative Security Update
@ RunOnce\WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2813345-x64-ENU.exe 3,871,880 . MS13-029 - Remote Desktop Client

As a side note, surely I'm not the only one unimpressed by the tendency of applications and websites to adopt Windows 8 "modern UI" styling. The new versions of Avast and Comodo are rather bleah and MediaFire now has fuzzy out of focus text.

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Yeyy!! 12 months to go for the definitive XP!

The metro style thing makes me puke everytime I see it. Also Google Play adopted it, Outlook.com as well. Luckily I use stylish addon since long ago with dark styles so I barely notice the change. About Comodo I had to leave the **** program, only because one problem, but a very critical one, so I opted to use Private Firewall since then.

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I have an x86 ISO with all the .net framework integrated as a true addons, however I think this addons are only available for x86 operating systems, will it be available any day for a x64 system? It really makes a difference

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Probably not, at least I have no intention of doing so.

As to the 32-bit versions out there, I've tried OnePiece's all-in-one update packs and .Net true addons but have found them to have the odd bug, perhaps they are a tad too aggressive in their implementation.

Instead I use UserHidden's (and before that YumeYao's) updated .Net installer, but even that far more conservative option runs into problems with Windows Update continuously offering the same update.

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Kurt:_Aust, thanks for your promply reply, actually, I'm going to build an XP x64 fully updated, but I have gathered the work of other person, a iso (updated until April 2013), and I 'm going to add to that iso, WMP 11, .Net framework, IE8 and Desktop search, I guess I need to clean some of your batch file to delete some batches of some stuff I don't need, on your RunOnce Folder, make some tweaks ( more IP connections, unlocked themes)

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@viggen66, it is always, always, ALWAYS better to start with a true, clean, stock, unmodified MSFN iso rather than starting with "the work of other person, a iso (updated until April 2013)".

Cheers and Regards

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Hi bphlpt, you are probably right, but I don't have the time for that, and the user who have made the first ISO (only critical updates, untouched, just updates), I trust on his work, mainly because I have a XP Home Edition Build on my laptop and is free of bugs, but moving forward, I have already my ISO untested, steps I have made:

1) Insert all Intel and Nforce Drivers for Sata (all the drivers from this website)
2) Integrated IE8 using 5eraph's Internet Explorer 8 Addon and Nlite
3) Integrated WMP11 using Boooggy's WMP11 slipstreamer
4) Unlocking TCP IP to 1000 connections and unlock uxtheme
5) Insert Product Key, Insert my regional keyboard and settings and adding on the "Runonce" parameter the instructions:

TimeOut /T 40
CMD /R %Source%Run1_XP-64.bat

6) Copy and edit Run1_XP-64.bat trough the Kurt_Aust's tutorial
7) Copy all addition files namely .net 3.5, .net 4, Desktop Search, Windows Update Agent, Directx, powershell to the folder Runonce
8) Make Iso

Now the only thing to remain is to burn the dvd and try the ISO

But one thing I have noticed, if I firstly integrate WMP11 using the booogyy tool and 5eraph's Internet Explorer 8 Addon with Nlite I get an error that Txtsetup.sif is missing, but the opposite I get zero errors

Another thing I have noticed is that on the regional settings I get a keyboard, which instead of having text, has a weird number like 000345, something like that, it should had something like US, UK,or Italian Keyboard, but then again, since is the first time I'm doing this, I reckon it must be like that

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I'm sorry, but when you are using an ISO that is "the work of other person, a iso (updated until April 2013)", then many will consider that source "warez", ie not obtained from an authorized source, so I don't know how much help you will receive here as a result. XP is stricter in a way than Win7 in that without a Technet subscription, there is no way that I am aware of to obtain an authorized XP ISO without purchasing a genuine XP CD, or a system that includes the CD, from an authorized reseller in either case, of course. Purchasing such a CD from ebay or such is also usually OK.

Cheers and Regards

Edited by bphlpt, 23 April 2013 - 05:04 PM.


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Ok bphlpt, I see your point, but thanks anyway, I'm only doing this for education purposes, not for profit gain, or to release to any ftp or public disclosure, I as yourself, defend the copyright issue, since I'm a developer and I like to defend my work

Edited by viggen66, 24 April 2013 - 01:09 AM.


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I have tried my iso, well no bugs :rolleyes: , but after I visited Windows Update, I needed to install some critical updates from .net framework 2 namely

# ▼. NDP20SP2-KB958481-x64.exe . 19,282,272 . Application Compatibility Update
# ▼. NDP20SP2-KB2656352-x64.exe 13,096,048 . MS11-100 - ASP.NET
# ▼. NDP20SP2-KB2729450-x64.exe 31,280,648 . MS12-074 - 4 Vulnerabilities fixed
# ▼. NDP20SP2-KB2742596-x64.exe 20,742,168 . MS13-004 - 4 Vulnerabilities fixed
# ▼. NDP20SP2-KB2789643-x64.exe 11,963,400 . MS13-015 - XAML Browser Applications (XBAPs)

However, I misinterpreted the tutorial, because I though that after installing .net framework 3.5 I didn't need any update from .net framework 2.0, like if .net 3.5 had a cumulative update that included everything that was left behind that version, well I need to rebuild my iso, to make it perfect, but if Windows Update does this job for me manually there's no big problem here.

Another Issue, on the batch file the desktop search 4 is under Folder Addon, and I skip that, I pasted on the RunOnce folder, so another manually install, no problem (requires path file fix)

So I only need to add 5 files to the Runonce Folder, and fix the path file for the desktop search, and I have a perfect XP x64 fully updated.

Just another thing as a remark, this is extremely boring and time consuming, it takes forever to install the XP on a system more than a hour and something :no: but on the other hand you have a perfect system fully updated on your finger tips.

Edited by viggen66, 24 April 2013 - 05:34 PM.


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Just another thing as a remark, this is extremely boring and time consuming, it takes forever to install the XP on a system more than a hour and something :no: but on the other hand you have a perfect system fully updated on your finger tips.


These young whipper-snappers, try installing and updating XP at the end of a dial-up connection, now that's long and boring!

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Kurt_Aust , thank you so much for your kind words :rolleyes:

However, I don't know if users are aware but it seems that MS has left a bug on .net framework 4.0, making XP boot load considerably slower, when compared with its younger counterparts (Vista and forward)

We need to compile the assemblies of all .net frameworks to overpass this flaw.

http://pcmediks.blog...stallation.html

I really don't know why MS hasn't fixed this, is probably an attempt for users to install on of its newer operating systems, however since we are trying to build a perfect iso, I'm guessing if it is possible to automate this procedure, or better still, to avoid this problem.

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Are you sure that applies to XP x64 as well? (or even to all installations of 32-bit XP)

I hadn't heard of it before and considering that XP x64 is really Server 2003 x64 with the server extensions stripped out, it may not be a problem if it only affects the NT 5.1 codebase (XP x64 is NT 5.2).

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Kurt_Aust, I always run the net_startup_fix on every XP instalattion it compiles the modules and the problem is gone, I need to rebuid my iso with the previous fixes I posted earlier, moreover I have just found a new tool, which I think is most important, namely RunasSpc, this overcomes the problem of running applications that require admins rights on limited accounts without everybody knowing the admin password, as I always use a limited account to enhance security, this wonderful tool lets me run, some of the programs with admins rights without any problem.

You may say just right click and put run as the problem is gone, but not every program lets you do that, and this encrypts the runas so is secure for anyone, besides being freeware.


http://www.robotroni...runasspcEn.html

Edited by viggen66, 27 April 2013 - 07:09 AM.


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May updates

Deletions:
Hotfix\584-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2808735-x64-ENU.exe
Hotfix\920-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2817183-x64-ENU.exe
RunOnce\WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2736233-x64-ENU.exe

Replace:
# . RunOnce\install_flash_player_11_active_x.exe .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16,948,616 . Updated 14 May

Additions:
@ . . . Hotfix\584-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2829361-x64-ENU.exe . . 2,531,496 . MS13-046 - Kernel-Mode Drivers
# . Hotfix\916-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2847204-x64-ENU.exe . 7,121,056 . MS13-038 - Object in Memory
# . Hotfix\920-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2829530-x64-ENU.exe 22,921,384 . MS13-037 - Cumulative Security Update
@ . . . RunOnce\WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2820197-x64-ENU.exe . 686,248 . ActiveX Kill-Bits Cumulative
@ . . . RunOnce\NDP20SP2-KB2804577-x64.exe .. . 990,232 . MS13-040 - Spoofing
@ . . . RunOnce\NDP40-KB2804576-x64.exe .. . . 1,555,984 . MS13-040 - Spoofing


Rather late this month due to an unfortunate combination of lots of overtime at work, a rather busy schedule outside of work, and a lingering throat infection that just won't bugger off.

[Rant]
What is this obsession with Metro-fying everything? The latest application to fall is Foxit reader, joining Avast anti-virus and Comodo firewall. That's bad enough but now Microsoft's download pages are "Modern UI" style, hiding such basic information as the name of the file you are about to download and (more importantly for me) sometimes dispensing with the links to the associated security bulletins. MediaFire has also gone the Metro route, displaying in a horrible blurry grey font that gives me eye-strain.
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June updates

Deletions:
Hotfix\504-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2661254-x64-ENU.exe
Hotfix\916-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2847204-x64-ENU.exe
Hotfix\920-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2829530-x64-ENU.exe
RunOnce\NDP20SP2-KB2656352-x64.exe
RunOnce\NDP35SP1-KB2657424-x64.exe

Replace:
# . install_flash_player_11_active_x.exe .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 17,018,248 . Updated 11 June


Additions:
@ . . . Hotfix\588-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2836198-x64-ENU.exe . . 1,325,728 . CSP Signature Check
@ . . . Hotfix\592-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2808679-x64-ENU.exe . . 1,510,568 . Internal URL Port Scanning
# . Hotfix\920-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2838727-x64-ENU.exe 22,926,496 . MS13-047 - Cumulative Security Update

# . RunOnce\NDP20SP2-KB2836941-x64.exe 13,166,216 . ASP.NET Compatibility Update
@ . . . RunOnce\NDP35SP1-KB2836940-x64.exe . 1,779,848 . ASP.NET Compatibility Update
# . RunOnce\NDP40-KB2836939-x64.exe . . . 9,328,248 . ASP.NET Compatibility Update



A tad late again this month, this time for reasons similar to those that hit 5eraph, as I had a hard drive die on my computer the day before patch Tuesday just when I was about to do the monthly offsite backup AND I had to rebuild my parents PC (which strangely took priority over updating this topic).

.Net 4.0 - currently has 13 updates totalling 215MB for a base installer that only weighs in at 48MB? Me thinks it's well past time for an updated base installer to be released.

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@Kurt_Aust

If I just want to have the
Hotfix
Internet Explorer 8
RunOnce
WMP11

and nothing else fixed like addons, integrate cd key and so.
How i do? Can i skip the next steps?.
And can WMP11 only be integrate by the Windows Media Player 11 slipstreamer and not nlite ?

iam using this one : en_win_xp_pro_x64_with_sp2_vl_X13-41611

Thx for help have try few times (april, may updates) but cant get it to work.
When i test the os in wm player it shows that some of the updates/ .Net have been skipped. :/




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