[Kurt_Aust]

August updates

Deletions:
Hotfix\220-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB941202-x64-ENU.exe
Hotfix\240-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB942763-x64-ENU.exe
Hotfix\365-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB944338-x64-ENU.exe
Hotfix\400-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB950760-x64-ENU.exe
Hotfix\420-IE7-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB950759-x64-ENU.exe

Additions:
@ 155-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB936357-x64-ENU.exe [770,440] Intel CPU update, no effect on AMD CPUs (my new PC has a Q9450)
@ 450-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB953839-x64-ENU.exe [674,352]
@ 460-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB951072-x64-ENU.exe [739,376]
@ 470-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB951066-x64-ENU.exe [1,697,840]
@ 480-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB946648-x64-ENU.exe [712,240]
@ 490-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB950974-x64-ENU.exe [1,036,336]
@ 500-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB952954-x64-ENU.exe [830,512]
# 510-IE7-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB953838-x64-ENU.exe [37,187,632] Direct link to .exe

There are also new versions of:
# WindowsUpdateAgent30-x64.exe [7,048,216] Direct link to .exe updated 7 Aug 08
% directx_aug2008_redist.exe [84,245,536] Direct link to .exe
MD5: 3FA04CDE0808ED0AB035AB56735FA86B
SHA1: 44B175AD7E2A2614AA91BFB816EAB0279BCAC61E
.Net 3.5 SP1 released 11 Aug 08
% dotnetfx35.exe [242,743,296] Direct link to .exe
You want the Redistributable Package from near the bottom of the page
MD5: D481CDA2625D9DD2731A00F482484D86
SHA1: 3DCE66BAE0DD71284AC7A971BAED07030A186918

[TranceEnergy]

Thank you for this glorious update!
I am so grateful that you have added such update as the 155- too, i dont care wheter or not its for intel cpu fix, i just like having everything in latest versions.

Kick a** effort there, good job sir!

On dot.net 3.5 with sp1 built does contain 2.0 and 3.0 and 3.5 all versions with x86 and x64, just looked inside the temp dirs.
Goto link Kurt here provides and down on the same page you can choose to download the full version and not just "the bootstrapper" which it says on the page.

 dotnet35sp1.PNG (25.49K)
Number of downloads: 5  dotnet35sp1_options.PNG (17.34K)
Number of downloads: 9

I suggest using /lang:ENU for english only, so it skips other languages installations. Perhaps install even goes a bit faster then.

This post has been edited by TranceEnergy: 13 August 2008 - 09:31 AM

[johnhc]

Here is the link to Adobe Labs to DL Flash Player 10 (both plugin and ActiveX). Note that it is a Release Candidate and requires the removal of older versions of Flash if you are going to install it on a machine with Flash already installed.
http://labs.adobe.co...shplayer10.html

Thanks much, Kurt for the latest updates!!!!!

Enjoy, John.

This post has been edited by johnhc: 13 August 2008 - 09:17 AM

[TranceEnergy]

John, i installed both of those versions over the old one xxx.24 something, install went fine and no errors that i know of, flash animations play. It didnt give me any options or warning or such.

[johnhc]

TranceEnergy,
Did you install the ActiveX or just the plugin? The Adobe notes said the old ActiveX must be removed. Just quoting them.
Enjoy, John.

[TranceEnergy]

I actually installed both. However i dont have IE installed, only IE core, so old activex is removed as well i assume. Tho i cant know for sure, sometimes nlite keeps components partially and leaves registry settings for things to be compatible. There is no normal procedure , add/remove control applet, to remove "old activex" that i have ever seen. So i have no idea what they mean by that.

[TranceEnergy]

Okay, i've started to go through Kurt's list versus my own. And i noted down a few differences. I'll add more if i find any...
Hotfixes with KB'numbers' are not in Kurt's list and 'numbered' hotfixes are obviously from Kurt's list

KB948570 contains :
oleaut32.dll 5.2.3790.4235
advapi32.dll 5.2.3790.4235
shlwapi.dll 6.0.3790.4235


340-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB943055-x64-ENU contains
oleaut32.dll 5.2.3790.4202
no other files

------


KB948963 contains :

contains
rsaenh.dll 5.2.3790.4313 Microsoft Enhanced Cryptographic Provider
schannel.dll 5.2.3790.4313 TLS / SSL Security Provider

130-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB935840-x64-ENU contains:

schannel.dll 5.2.3790.4068
no other files

----------------

KB945272 contains:

shell32.dll Windows Shell Common Dll 6.0.3790.4220


230-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB943460-x64-ENU contains:

shell32.dll 6.0.3790.4184

no other files

---

Update craziness ;D

one more:



KB944043 contains many files new versions of windows time,workstation service etc.:
lsasrv.dll 5.2.3790.4275 LSA Server DLL


300-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB943485-x64-ENU contains:
lsasrv.dll 5.2.3790.4186 LSA Server DLL


ops found another :

KB952679 contains 1 file :
win32k.sys 5.2.3790.4305 Multi-User Win32 Driver

360-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB941693-x64-ENU contains 1 file:
win32k.sys 5.2.3790.4256 Multi-User Win32 Driver


Another situation:

100-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB927891-v5-x64-ENU contains 1 file (i really should write update instead) :
msi.dll 3.1.4000.4042 Windows installer

Which of course is superseeded by 040-WindowsServer2003-KB942288-v4-x64
msi.dll 4.5.6001.22159

So obviously if one chooses windows installer 4.5, one does not need the 100-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB927891-v5-x64-ENU



Also about msxml 4.0 sp2

File Name: msxml4-KB936181-enu.exe
Version: 4.20.9848.0
Security Bulletins: MS07-042
Knowledge Base (KB) Articles: KB936181
Date Published: 8/14/2007
Language: English
Download Size: 5.4 MB

is superceeded by:

File Name: msxml4-KB941833-enu.exe
Version: 4.20.9849.0
Knowledge Base (KB) Articles: KB941833
Date Published: 9/27/2007
Language: English
Download Size: 5.4 MB


about 480-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB946648-x64-ENU
this only contains x86 file for Messenger Service wmsgsc.dll 4.7.0.3002

This entire hotfix should just be deleted. If one wants to run old msn, one can get version 5.1 which i *believe* is more or less the same as 4.7 only more secure/patched up etc.
At least mark it as optional.


WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB924131-x64-ENU.exe from run1 xp64 batch file
rem Virtual PC 2007 (KB924131 is only for processors supporting AMD-V)
%Source%AddOns\WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB924131-x64-ENU.exe /Passive /NoRestart

is a SP1 update afaik. Actually scratch that, looks like sp0 update. Tho there never was such a thing.
It will try to update kernels, sp and mp, to version 5.2.3790.2771, far below sp2. (.3790)



about Group Policy Preference Client Side Extensions for Windows XP x64 Edition KB943729
if one doesnt need IE7 or perhaps one uses ie8 beta or whatever. KB943729 needs XMLLite according to KB article. Link to x64 edition here. Needed for Visio 2007, IE7 it says. KB article link with download links for various versions.
Note: XMLLite is packaged with IE7.

This post has been edited by TranceEnergy: 15 August 2008 - 10:47 AM

[TranceEnergy]

On another topic, sigh no one responds. How can i insert my key for Avast antivirus program in unattended?

[johnhc]

TranceEnergy,
It looks like avast! has a really good silent install feature, but it only applies to the Pro version. See silent installation in their Help file.

Also see this post in the avast! forum.

Enjoy, John.

[TranceEnergy]

Well that's a gawdamn shame =) I like avast, but it does halt startup-process somewhat i think, even with memory scan on startup disabled.

[adamski]

Maybe you could add information on changing the location of "program Files (x86)" to your guide as I have spent a long time looking it up. I assume (not tested) that these entries can be manually added to "AMD64\WINNT.SIF" before making the CD image in nLite (i.e. optional step 9.5):

[GuiUnattended]
ProfilesDir=D:\Profiles

[Unattended]
ProgramFilesDir="D:\Programs64Bit"
programfilesdir(x86)="D:\Programs32Bit"
CommonProgramFilesDir="D:\Programs64Bit\Common"
commonprogramfilesdir(x86)="D:\Programs32Bit\Common"

Will that work? I have used the values when using a floppy for unattended setup but not the method above as I only just found where nLite puts the answer file.

A related question:
If I have a CD created with nLite with unattended setup (no custom x86 paths defined), and I just add the missing variables to a floppy WINNT.SIF, will the setup use the details from both files, the one on the CD or the one on the floppy? If I can just add variables via floppy, or override with full answers on a floppy I won't have to burn a new CD (and I can use the same CD to setup many computers with different details). Obviously if the CD file overrides the floppy I can't do this.

Anyway, I think people would like to know how to move these directories since nLite dosen't give you the option.

Update:
It would seem that if a floppy with WINNT.SIF is detected, it is used and the one on the CD is ignored. If no floppy is detected it looks for it on the CD. It doesn't use them both.

Edit:
Changed I386 to AMD64. I386 is for 32bit XP!

This post has been edited by adamski: 15 August 2008 - 10:22 PM

[TranceEnergy]

First off: why are you installing to D:\ ? Dual booting? And floppy for installing windows? That's last century kind of install.

Changing those paths to winnt.sif would work, but changing them with nlite would not, in my setups anyway.Well it would work, tho there will be need to replace some entries in registry manually afterwards, so it isnt really a universal fix to it.

I have successfully used \PF and pf(x86) and pf\cf and pf(x86\cf (program files\common files)
Windows will determine if program to install is 32bit or 64bit, so no need to have extra long names as you illustrate, tho for someone it might be more satisfying with more informative names.

Otherwise i suggest you post in windows x64 category instead, as these questions dont matter to this thread.
I'm curious to how you will use the floppy in the install to what end though. I dont see any good reason for it. Except if to tell unattended setup to use settings on floppy disk, if floppy disk is inserted.

[Kurt_Aust]

TranceEnergy:
As I read it, .Net 3.5 sp1 does NOT install language packs by default, rather using the /Lang switch allows you to install one additional language pack. I timed the .Net 3.5 sp1 install in a VM on my new machine (7 minutes) and on my rebuilt old machine (6 minutes, now a hand-me-"up" to my parents). It's hard to see that you'd save any significant install time as installing a language pack is basically just copying dictionary files.

On the hotfix list:

The following are not publicly available (MS download centre) and have only received limited testing. I can say potential for regression bug ...
KB948570
KB948963
KB945272
KB952679

KB944043 I'll look at this one but no guarantees

KB942288 vs KB927891 (msi.dll) Marked as optional, nLite will only add the most up to date (as defined by version number) file to the installation source, once Microsoft is satisfied that there are no compatibility issues with v4.5, v3.1 will be dropped.

KB941833 (msxml4) I tried installing this one manually once, but it threw a version mismatch error. Reading the KB article indicates that it is only to resolve a Vista specific issue with KB936181.

KB946648 (Messenger) Granted, it may be old, but it's the version that's on the CD. I can't remember if it's part of a default install, but as it's in "Set Program Access and Defaults >> Add/Remove Windows Components", one could say it's already marked as optional.

KB924131 (VirtualPC) This one I'm just going by the documentation, I don't have any AMD-V capable processors to test against.

KB914783 (XMLlite) That version will not install on an sp2 patched box, tested when I was trying to find out why KB943729 kept showing up on windows update.


Johnhc:
I'll take another look at Flash Player once it reaches final release status, no beta products in the "Core" updates, OK for the supported optional application installs. Google (perpetual beta {tm}), I'm looking at you!


Adamski:
Not really within the scope of this topic. This guide is just meant to be quick, easy and failsafe using the original Microsoft installers. Too much information will just be confusing to the vast majority of users who are perfectly happy with the default paths (and poorly written installers might have problems with non-default paths).

Such questions are best dealt with in their own topic, for one thing you get to use a descriptive topic heading that will help others searching for similar information.

[TranceEnergy]

I was just thinking out loud on the .net 3.5sp1, and i like to do things that way. Only way to communicate. I noticed some problems with playing some flash movies yesterday with flash player 10 so it's not a keeper for me atm.

I noticed that on xmllite too, tho it's funny that MS has packaged the same version with IE8. For no good reason then. Weird.
msi.dll : I am fully aware nlite, more correctly windows hotfixes installations will not overwrite newer version, tho its marked as optional, im happy.

On KB944043 i think it contains so much new things (newer versions of services etc.)it would be shame if you decide its not worthy to integrate.


All this considered, i am running with every hotfix here mentioned, and then some, tho i havent installed that xmllite thing (was just noting it down).

I am going to do a really nice reinstall today with everything, ie7 and wmp11 and all these hotfixes (after i have checked all wmp hotfixes)
I will then check logs for eventual errors and so and report back if i find anything worthy of mention.

update: i am currently going through all hotfixes i could download from hotfixshare, well over 100, now deleting duplicates and finding new versions. I will post a list with eventual findings.
update2: few hours later of going through 150+ additional hotfixes or so, i've ended up on (142), correction 141 as of 21aug2008 , in total, hotfixes/security updates, not counting IE, remote desktop, xml and other things.
That's a lot..

update: Amd has released amd dual core optimizer 1.14, new version after 2 years or so.
Direct download link

The MS XML 6 version inside .net 3.5sp1 seems to be newer then the one on microsofts KB article for it. At least the Security certificate for the one in .dot net was newer. I found it strange that the one downloaded manually was 2006 while .dn3.5 was 2007.
Could be i was at wrong kb article tho.


in old news: Visual c++ 2008 sp1 for both x86 and x64 was updated on 9th of august. I was sure i had updated already, but somehow i hadnt. Files are almost double in size 2mbish vs 4mbish.

This post has been edited by TranceEnergy: 23 August 2008 - 08:36 AM

[TranceEnergy]

Kurt: Why not use just :
Copy /Y %Source%WinUp.lnk "%allusersprofile%\Start Menu\Windows Update.lnk"
instead of that "IF" statement. Seems kinda pointless to me.

[Kurt_Aust]

The IF ... statement is there for 5eraph's update pack.

5eraph's update pack creates a working "Microsoft Update.lnk", so I check for it's existence. If it exists a "Windows Update.lnk" is redundant, if not then Run1_XP-64.bat fixes the broken link.

[TranceEnergy]

Aha, i see. Thanks.

Any thought on WGA integration? A whole lot of information on that on DarkShadows thread.

Just 2 things im thinking of: 1 make the WU update not needed when you access WU first time and 2 the Validate you windows, wga crap.

Please note, DarkShadows doesnt have x64 nor can he get it, for some reason i dont know, doesnt matter either.

It seems that these are the steps left to fully update, per your update scheme, to make it all done and done.

BTW i can find the stand alone installer for WGA notification KB article for 32bit, but where's the x64 version? Would love to have that so i can do it myself anyway.

This post has been edited by TranceEnergy: 24 August 2008 - 01:34 PM

[Kurt_Aust]

Added to \Hotfix:
% ▼ 385-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB944043-v5-x64-ENU.exe [9,298,480] Optional, Server 2008 compatibility pack (untested)
Probably should say untestable as I don't have access to a Server 2008 box.

Updated Run1_XP-64.bat for latest program versions.

Also cleaned up the download section (made direct download links more obvious). I will be removing most of the optionals from the .7z archive on the next update, they will remain in the torent as most clients allow individual selection of files to be downloaded.

[TranceEnergy]

Kurt, i noticed that .net 3.5sp1 also contains XPS printer drivers, which is of newer version then those i previously had in Euro font expansion pack v2 update, and maybe some other KB too.
Just saying that if one chooses to install 3.5sp1 one also get those latest drivers, which *seems* to be of Vista version, kinda neat.

[Alien42]

TranceEnergy, on Jun 14 2008, 08:37 AM, said:

I dont mean to be an jack a** but i see there is Adobe reader on the list, when Foxit PDF reader is so much more lightweight and faster, doesnt add it self to startup or anything.
There are several versions for download, i used the .msi version as it clearly allows to be installed with f.ex "/passive /norestart" parameters. Install takes 1 second on my puter.
From website:

What's New in Foxit Reader 2.3 (downloads here)
Foxit Reader 2.3 is just released. The new version 2.3 includes a multimedia player feature allowing Foxit users to not only read PDFs, but to watch and listen to the audio/video elements coming with PDFs as well

I'm not sure about a built-in player, but aside from that another nice alternative to Adobe is PDF-XChange Viewer. There's even a 64bit version.

johnhc, on Jun 16 2008, 07:27 PM, said:

BO = Buffer Overflow. Learned this term on the Comodo forum.

Doesn't the NX thingy built into Windows take care of that?

johnhc, on Jun 16 2008, 07:27 PM, said:

Probably is a good thing you are some distant away. My Radio Shack outdoor thermometer reported 109F yesterday and has already hit 100F today.

109F!? That's 42C! Where do you live, Death Valley, or the Sahara?

TranceEnergy, on Jun 17 2008, 09:52 AM, said:

I'm trying to add windows firewall back in my preset, but it's been so long since i've used it i have forgotten all its dependencies. I have ALG with it, but Punkbuster silent install still doesnt go silently, so i am missing some
components, I am working on it now tho

I've yet to actually discover a need for ALG. It goes on my list of things to disable/remove.

TranceEnergy, on Jul 22 2008, 11:39 AM, said:

Also:

Why bot .Net 2.0+sp1 pack and also .net 3.5?
Why not just 3.5? (edit: i see in the reference assemblies folder, there are only 3.0 and 3.5 folders, no 2.0-hm...)

i reckon you keep both entries there, but at least you should REM one of them.

That's something I was wondering about, do you need 2.0 if you have 3.5 installed? Having said that, I just checked in Add/Remove programs, & I have 64 bit versions of 1, 2, & 3.5, so...

TranceEnergy, on Jul 24 2008, 05:17 PM, said:

If you're not gaming at all, i would choose a passively cooled graphics card, or better, a decent mobo with good internal graphics. F.ex upcoming amd am2 780/790-GX.

Anyone looking at those lower-end boards should check what CPUs they support, as there's been a bunch of probs with people thinking their board could handle the 125 & 140w CPUs, when in fact they couldn't. Also, some board manufacturer's sites aren't very clear on this issue, so it would be a good idea to look for reviews of whichever board is of interest that lists test results with 1 of the higher/highest power rated CPUs. If it can handle that then you have no worries. The problems start when people think "hey, I know what would be a good idea, I'll get an mATX or low end ATX mobo to build a SFFPC/HTPC, & then stick a 6000, 6400, 9850, or 9950 in it", only to end up with a fried motherboard.

TranceEnergy, on Aug 1 2008, 03:56 AM, said:

Savegames and what not:

I'm just so in love with winrar and its SFX option now. You know how games store your savegames under documents and settings and either under application data directly or under username\local settings\application data. Well i figured out that i could archive my savegames and with %userprofile% i think it was, extract them to the correct paths.

Very nice if you (reader) like me like to not need to RE-install every game or program just because you want to reinstall xp (x64 in this case).

I have more partitions than you could shake a stick at, & I keep my My Documents folder on a seperate 1 to my Windows install [you can reassign "special" folder locations with TweakUI]. I'm not much of a gamer, but I have noticed that some progs & games recognise that you have My Documents in a non-standard place & will put their files in there, rather than in the Documents & Settings... etc folder.

Kurt_Aust, on Aug 4 2008, 01:12 PM, said:

For example I include Adobe reader as it's the default, not that I use it (it has its own custom print driver that crashes my laser printer). Instead I use the lightweight (and open source) SumatraPDF.

As mentioned above, I use PDF-XChange Viewer for reading PDFs, & for actually making them [not something I do very often] I use the function built into OpenOffice.

johnhc, on Aug 4 2008, 07:18 PM, said:

TranceEnergy,
Have you removed all IEs or just not installed IE7? Without IE at all you may not have access to Windows Update and OE is part of IE. When I used to use Firefox, I watched the forum and some posted about trying to remove IE and got into all kinds of trouble. The general recommendation was "DON'T REMOVE IE!"

I don't bother removing IE, as I sometimes use Maxthon for some things, but I seem to remember mention of a way to use WU through Firefox [& no, I'm not referring to Windizupdate].

TranceEnergy, on Aug 24 2008, 08:25 PM, said:

Any thought on WGA integration?

AFAIK, I haven't got Windows Genuine Annoyance installed, & it's never caused me any problems. I think there's been 1 or 2 occasions when I've followed a link to something, only to discover MS won't let me have it without "validating" first, so I've either decided that I didn't want/need whatever it was, or gone looking for freeware alternatives made by somebody else.

TranceEnergy, on Aug 24 2008, 08:25 PM, said:

BTW i can find the stand alone installer for WGA notification KB article for 32bit, but where's the x64 version? Would love to have that so i can do it myself anyway.

I don't think I've ever needed 1 [for XP64] for WU [some oversight on MS's part perhaps?], but if you're that desperate for it, try looking for stuff on the download centre site & you're bound to come across a page sooner or later that will want you to install it & will offer you a link.

This post has been edited by Alien42: 30 August 2008 - 06:11 PM