[bosco555]

Thanks Kurt, just making sure.

Thanks again for the help
gb

[johnhc]

Kurt_Aust,
Thanks so much for your tutorial. It is a great tool. Being new to slipstreaming, I have used it for educational purposes. I have built several trials, testing various options and tasks and learning a lot. I have also had great fun!
I do have some questions:
1.Found a reference to Run1_W2Ksp5.bat.
2.Is it OK to just leave files I don't want out of addons or must I also remove them from the .bat?
3.I have two registry updates I want to include (IE7 search engines and home page). One is a single command I found on the forum and the other is an .reg file I exported from my current registry. How do I include these – put them into the .bat somehow?
4.Can I place files into My Documents (e.g. CPU-Z and SuperPi) of a created user? Perhaps this would require the second pass.
5.Is it a bad idea to include a FW (Comodo)? Would a second pass make this active? - avast! also?
6.I see you have included Flash but not Shockwave or other players. Is there any problem with others? I looked at the shockwave site and found the switches needed and also found that there is both an .msi and .exe installer. Is there an installer type preference? Where in general do you find the switches for installers?
7.I don't understand the reason for the optional second pass.
8.I see you have specified Fully Automaticic. Will the Repair (reinstall) option be available?

Thanks much for a great tool and any help you can give me.........John

[Kurt_Aust]

johnhc, on Mar 13 2008, 11:56 AM, said:

1.Found a reference to Run1_W2Ksp5.bat.
2.Is it OK to just leave files I don't want out of addons or must I also remove them from the .bat?
3.I have two registry updates I want to include (IE7 search engines and home page). One is a single command I found on the forum and the other is an .reg file I exported from my current registry. How do I include these – put them into the .bat somehow?
4.Can I place files into My Documents (e.g. CPU-Z and SuperPi) of a created user? Perhaps this would require the second pass.
5.Is it a bad idea to include a FW (Comodo)? Would a second pass make this active? - avast! also?
6.I see you have included Flash but not Shockwave or other players. Is there any problem with others? I looked at the shockwave site and found the switches needed and also found that there is both an .msi and .exe installer. Is there an installer type preference? Where in general do you find the switches for installers?
7.I don't understand the reason for the optional second pass.
8.I see you have specified Fully Automaticic. Will the Repair (reinstall) option be available?

1. Run1_W2Ksp5.bat is from my similar guide for Windows 2000, but I see that in a moment of absent-mindedness I've used that name instead of Run1_XP-64.bat

2. The batch files are written so that if an optional application is not found at \AddOns, they will display "The command ***.exe does not refer to ..." (i.e. file not found) and skip on to the next command. Note that as %Source% returns a blank string if not set, one can block copy sections from Run1_XP-64.bat to Run2_XP-64.bat if so desired.

3. To include a .reg file use a command like that for Key.AnyDVD [If exist %Source%AddOns\Key.AnyDVD Regedit /S %Source%AddOns\Key.AnyDVD], replacing Key.AnyDVD with MySetting.reg. The "If exist %Source%AddOns\Key.AnyDVD" part of the command is not really necessary, but if you execute "Regedit /S %Source%AddOns\Key.AnyDVD" and the reg file isn't found the installation will halt with an error message.

4. I'm not really sure about this one, you could certainly put it in the shared documents. But as the account settings for new accounts are not actually created until that new account is logged into, I'm not sure if it will work (I'll test if I remember tomorrow).

5. Comodo is a good firewall (Defense+ annoying as all hell though), but the silent install switch "-s" doesn't work (crashes the installer). Avast will be active on user logon if the installer is placed at \AddOns.

6. There is no problem as far as I know with Shockwave, it's just that I don't use it. Some things just don't work, for example Opera will install with the switches "/S /V/Passive" but doesn't create a start menu icon. I've tried to include a selection of common software that will produce a system that is pretty much ready to go "out of the box". In general I prefer to use .msi installers, but only because there are generally more options and they are easier to understand, for a good example take a look at the .exe and .msi installers for Open Office. For switches search the Application installs forum here at MSFN, extract some of the addons created by others and read the entries file (Rado354's are good for this), read the originating website for that software, google it [software.exe "Silent Install"] and if all else fails, trial and error. If you read through Run1_XP-64.bat, you will see that there are several common sets of silent install switches.

7. In most cases there is no need for a second pass. But if for example you had some software that needed say .Net already installed before it could be installed, then that application would have to be installed in a second pass.

8. As the repair option appears in the textmode section of installation (before it goes into fully automatic mode), it should be available.

This post has been edited by Kurt_Aust: 13 March 2008 - 06:25 AM

[johnhc]

Wow, Kurt_Aust, Thanks for the detailed response! It will take me some time to digest it all and I have some time since I am planning on an upgrade but am waiting for AMD to get their game together.
I did forget to ask one question:
I noticed you do not include any component removals. I did a trial with nuhi's Safe preset and looked at the removals. They seem mostly reasonable with only a few I would modify. He also suggests that the drivers be removed that are being installed in the build.

Thanks again - Great Job!
John

[Kurt_Aust]

March updates:

New version of the DirectX redistributable (Mar 08), extract it to \DirectX_9c [67,196,968] Direct link to .exe
MD5: E1E85376D4F03072B99FF0E9ED5DDE36
SHA1: 21AA91CA8E0CBB5FBB986F47A1CCDAD5D2984CAE

No other hotfix changes (so no change in the torent or 7-zip package either).


Added support for a few more applications and latest codec pack versions:

CDBurnerXP
Picasa
K-Lite Mega Codec Pack
QuickTime Alternative lite
See here if you want to create your own config files
K-Lite Codec Pack 64-bit Requires C++ runtime
Orbit Downloader


Johnhc:

There doesn't seem to be an easy way to place files into "My Documents" of a created user. As I suspected if you create the folder and copy the files there prior to account initialization, Windows decides that the directory structure belongs to a deleted account and creates a new user account directory structure with a modified name. You might be able to do it if you log into the desired account on first boot (when .Net et al is installed) rather than the administrator account (would obviously have to be administrator class) and then copy the files (probably safest to do on 2nd pass).

I didn't include information on component removals for a couple of reasons, firstly it's not the objective of this topic, secondly I couldn't reliably test all possible combinations and points of failure.

[johnhc]

Kurt_Aust, thanks for the March updates and the reply to my questions.
Enjoy..............John

[HJW]

HJW, on Jan 2 2008, 11:46 AM, said:

Hi all,

In addition to this guide I want to add a few things. I use those to make my X64-CD even more up2date.

KB890830 (Malicious Software Removal Tool)
Use /Q to install silent (T13 ready).

DirectX_march08_x64_redist (switchless SFX installer with only x64 CABs)
size = 38,9mb, md5 = a112fadb6b527f9e1f1de23b375424eb
download here
NET20SP1_x64 ( repacked switchless SFX with T-13 ready )
size = 46,8mb, md5 = 19dd772d6cddced9b246a8e99dad3a7e
download here
Windows Update Client X64 ( repacked switchless SFX installer )
size = 7.69mb, md5 = 5372304f21699279fefe3df163e984e4
download here

I also tried to make an SFX covering the issues in this topic but I failed with that one.
* Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool ActiveX Control - KB892130 (LegitCheckControl.cab)
* Office Genuine Advantage Validation Tool ActiveX Control (OGAControl.cab)
* Windows Update ActiveX Control (wuweb_site.cab)
* Microsoft Update ActiveX Control (muweb_site.cab)
* Office Update Installation Engine ActiveX Control (opuc4.cab)
* Microsoft Update Catalog ActiveX Control (MuCatalogWebControl.cab)


Well I hope you guys can use these files for your x64 disc

HJW

Updated DirectX

[johnhc]

HJW, getting the famous 'Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage' on all your 'download here' links.
I do not understand what your SFX installers are except you have extracted the original, stripped out unnecessary stuff and repacked into self extracting. I know about DirectX (about half the size) but don't understand the other two.
Thanks, John

[HJW]

johnhc, on Mar 16 2008, 01:45 AM, said:

HJW, getting the famous 'Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage' on all your 'download here' links.
I do not understand what your SFX installers are except you have extracted the original, stripped out unnecessary stuff and repacked into self extracting. I know about DirectX (about half the size) but don't understand the other two.
Thanks, John

Links are fully working here (firefox) http://vistapacks.si...es/X64-PostSP2/

SelfExtractingInstallers , just run the file and the rest will be done automatically.

[johnhc]

HJW,
I see several interesting things in your three 'download here' links. I did a Copy Shortcut and Paste into my IE7 address bar and saw an extra '/' (%2f) after the http on each. I removed one and they all work. Sizes you specify in the post do not agree on two:
1)38.9MB should be 41.9
2)46.8MB should be 48.6
3)OK
I don't know why your links work and mine don't - other links work for me including your Removal Tool one. Perhaps you have an old copy in your browser cache or Firefox does not care or strips the extra slash.
Enjoy............John

[Kurt_Aust]

April updates:

Deletion
Hotfix\350-IE7-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB944533-x64-ENU.exe

Additions
Hotfix\350-Windows-en-US-KB943729-x64.exe [889,912] This one does not seem to install, fault has been reported
Hotfix\360-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB941693-x64-ENU.exe [8,403,504] Direct link to .exe
Hotfix\370-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB945553-x64-ENU.exe [1,048,112]
Hotfix\380-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB948590-x64-ENU.exe [1,330,224]
Hotfix\390-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB948881-x64-ENU.exe [670,768]
Hotfix\400-IE7-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB947864-x64-ENU.exe [37,178,416] Direct link to .exe

[bartgrefte]

Hi!

Maybe you could help me out on something.

Yesterday I slipstreamed SP2 in my XP x64 install cd with this howto, that went good. Then I made it unattended, that went good to. (tested in VMWare)

Now I'd like to slipstream all other updates. Already downloaded them with the help of the Microsoft Update Catalog, searched all KBnumbers what I found at the Windows Update page. Got 35 essential and 4 optional updates plus WMP11 and IE7.
Gonna try slipstreaming them at some time this weekend.

Now there are 2 updates I can't seem to find. When I first went to the Windows Update/Catalog pages, just after installing windows, I had to install something to be able of opening those webpages, here's some screenshots:




Where can I find those 2 and can they be slipstreamed?


Now something else, bit offtopic... Can I change some default settings which are used when the installation is finished?
Like to:
- Change some startmenu settings;
- turn off automatic update;
- disable the tour, which appears after the 1st start when the installation is complete;
- turn off windows security warnings
- turn off the firewall.

Is this possible?

This post has been edited by bartgrefte: 11 April 2008 - 07:40 AM

[Kurt_Aust]

Additions:
Hotfix\195-msxml4-KB936181-enu.exe [5,652,328] Optional, Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service Pack 2
Hotfix\365-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB944338-x64-ENU.exe [3,866,672]
dotNET\vcredist_x64.exe [3,200,960] Optional, Visual C++ 2005 SP1 runtime

It seems that the Windows Update logic is a bit twitchy this month (nothing unusual there), KB944338 should have shown but didn't and KB943729 still shows up even after being installed. I'm still including KB943729 in the list as they'll probably fix it by next month.


Bartgrefte this thread might have the information you seek. From memory all of the default settings you mentioned can indeed be changed with nLite.

[bartgrefte]

Kurt_Aust, on Apr 14 2008, 01:35 PM, said:

Additions:
Hotfix\195-msxml4-KB936181-enu.exe [5,652,328] Optional, Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service Pack 2
Hotfix\365-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB944338-x64-ENU.exe [3,866,672]
dotNET\vcredist_x64.exe [3,200,960] Optional, Visual C++ 2005 SP1 runtime

It seems that the Windows Update logic is a bit twitchy this month (nothing unusual there), KB944338 should have shown but didn't and KB943729 still shows up even after being installed. I'm still including KB943729 in the list as they'll probably fix it by next month.


Bartgrefte this thread might have the information you seek. From memory all of the default settings you mentioned can indeed be changed with nLite.

Okay, thanks! I'll check that thread.

And what about those 2 updates/patches I mentioned?

By the way, no "email notification" option at the edit-post page?

This post has been edited by bartgrefte: 14 April 2008 - 07:50 AM

[bartgrefte]

Hmm, something went wrong here I think.

Just let nLite integrate IE7 and a bunch (not all!) of hotfixes. After installing windows says it couldn't load some battery installer thing...

Did I do something wrong?

I'm testing in VMware Workstation ACE Edition 6.0.3 build 80004 on my laptop*.

After rebooting the virtual machine, still the error:
Windows could not load the installer for Battery. Contact your hardware vendor for assistance.

* Toshiba Satellite a100-683, with a T7600 instead of a T2250, 2GB ram instead of 1GB, 200GB 7200rpm drive instead of 120GB 5400rpm
Did some upgrades

Edit:
Never mind. Found this topic

xpmaniac4ever
Mar 11 2006, 10:48 AM

Quote

I had the same problem before. Solved by adding

DriverSigningPolicy = Ignore
NonDriverSigningPolicy = Ignore

to the [Unattended] section of my winnt.sif

That solved it

Now other problem. IE7 doesn't get installed anymore... Reslipstreaming it.

Edit: What the hell... IE7 still doesn't work. The exe files are not present on the harddrive after installing.

I'll start completely from scratch.

Edit: IE7 works now, when I let nlite slipstream al those hotfixes at once. Works great, now only have to slipstream WMP11+hotfixes/.net/directx/malicious software tool and that new hotfix I mentioned.


Kurt_Aust:
When I'm done slipstreaming those hotfixes from your startpost with Nlite, how do I slipstream the dotnet and directx ? Can't seem to get how that's done...

Don't now if you've noticed, but there's a new update: kb936357, some microcode update for intel cpu based computers. 752kB
Haven't seen that one in startpost. Ehh... 10/23/2007 , not new I gues.

This post has been edited by bartgrefte: 16 April 2008 - 12:46 PM

[Kurt_Aust]

bartgrefte, on Apr 17 2008, 01:08 AM, said:

* Toshiba Satellite a100-683, with a T7600 instead of a T2250, 2GB ram instead of 1GB, 200GB 7200rpm drive instead of 120GB 5400rpm
Did some upgrades

Obviously (blows the laptop I run VMWare testing on out of the water).

bartgrefte, on Apr 17 2008, 01:08 AM, said:

Never mind. Found this topic

xpmaniac4ever
Mar 11 2006, 10:48 AM

Quote

I had the same problem before. Solved by adding

DriverSigningPolicy = Ignore
NonDriverSigningPolicy = Ignore

to the [Unattended] section of my winnt.sif

That solved it

As long as you understand the security implications of turning off device driver signing enforcement (I prefer not to, but then I'm paranoid).

bartgrefte, on Apr 17 2008, 01:08 AM, said:

Kurt_Aust:
When I'm done slipstreaming those hotfixes from your startpost with Nlite, how do I slipstream the dotnet and directx ? Can't seem to get how that's done...

The original Microsoft files are not slipstreamable, this guide uses Run1_XP-64.bat to silently install them on first Logon. Some people have repackaged the files so they can be added as AddOns at step 4 of the process (e.g. HJW's posts in this topic), but this guide will be written to use the original files whenever possible.

bartgrefte, on Apr 17 2008, 01:08 AM, said:

Don't now if you've noticed, but there's a new update: kb936357, some microcode update for intel cpu based computers. 752kB
Haven't seen that one in startpost. Ehh... 10/23/2007 , not new I gues.

No, I hadn't noticed (my x64 hardware is all AMD), but as it is a hardware item and hence not applicable for all users, it will not be added.

[bartgrefte]

Kurt_Aust, on Apr 17 2008, 11:22 AM, said:

The original Microsoft files are not slipstreamable, this guide uses Run1_XP-64.bat to silently install them on first Logon. Some people have repackaged the files so they can be added as AddOns at step 4 of the process (e.g. HJW's posts in this topic), but this guide will be written to use the original files whenever possible.

Okay, in that case... How do I add the .bat and the directx/.net files to the installation cd? With nlite?

Kurt_Aust, on Apr 17 2008, 11:22 AM, said:

No, I hadn't noticed (my x64 hardware is all AMD), but as it is a hardware item and hence not applicable for all users, it will not be added.

Hmm, okay.

[johnhc]

Kurt,
I have been DLing some of the files and ran into a little problem with DirectX. Your Direct link leads to Nov2007 version while the Redistributable link leads to Mar2008. The hashes go with the Mar2008 and the byte count goes with Nov2007. The Mar2008 byte count should be (72,829,472 bytes).
Enjoy, John.

[johnhc]

Kurt,
I have run two tests with your procedure using QEMU virtual software. I had a few problems. The most serious was the reboot that came at the end which caught MS busy completing the install. Small dialog windows saying things like customizing IE settings or OE settings were running. Several failed when the reboot hit. The second try, I stuck a rem in front of the shutdown command to make sure it was coming from Run1_XP-64.bat. It fixed the problem but stopped everything. I clicked the x and closed the cmd prompt. The install then completed. I'm not sure what to put in the reboot place but maybe an exit command.
There are new versions of both Java and Flash available and I tried to use both. Flash is the most difficult installer to find. Some time ago, I found an archive file on the Adobe site and I used that. It is 99 MB because it contains all versions 9. I also had trouble finding Java 6u5 so I DLed 6u6. It installed fine and appears in Add/Remove but there is no Java Console or ActiveX in IE7 and no Java Control Center in Control Panel. I then found 6u5, removed 6u6 and installed 6u5 with the same results. Perhaps I have to exercise Java to get the items to be installed/activated.
The QEMU software is very slow, running 4 or 5 times real time.
Thanks for any help/insite you can offer.
John

This post has been edited by johnhc: 28 April 2008 - 08:13 AM

[Kurt_Aust]

johnhc, on Apr 28 2008, 02:54 AM, said:

Kurt,
I have run two tests with your procedure using QEMU virtual software. I had a few problems. The most serious was the reboot that came at the end which caught MS busy completing the install. Small dialog windows saying things like customizing IE settings or OE settings were running. Several failed when the reboot hit. The second try, I stuck a rem in front of the shutdown command to make sure it was coming from Run1_XP-64.bat. It fixed the problem but stopped everything. I clicked the x and closed the cmd prompt. The install then completed. I'm not sure what to put in the reboot place but maybe an exit command.

This is expected behaviour and nothing to worry about. It happens due to the task scheduler starting other processes (in this case account initialization) even though it has received a shutdown command. If and when you next log into the Administrator account, the system will perform/complete account initialization.

johnhc, on Apr 28 2008, 02:54 AM, said:

There are new versions of both Java and Flash available and I tried to use both. Flash is the most difficult installer to find. Some time ago, I found an archive file on the Adobe site and I used that. It is 99 MB because it contains all versions 9. I also had trouble finding Java 6u5 so I DLed 6u6. It installed fine and appears in Add/Remove but there is no Java Console or ActiveX in IE7 and no Java Control Center in Control Panel. I then found 6u5, removed 6u6 and installed 6u5 with the same results. Perhaps I have to exercise Java to get the items to be installed/activated.
The QEMU software is very slow, running 4 or 5 times real time.
Thanks for any help/incite you can offer.
John

As it is a 32 bit virtual environment, the Java control panel doesn't show up in the normal Control Panel, you have to double click "View x86 Control Panel Icons" (found in the normal Control Panel).

You should (as a general rule) always try to use the latest version of any software as security bug fixes are the most common reason for updated releases. When uploading the config file, I write Run1_XP-64.bat to support the latest versions available, this should not be taken as a requirement to use that version if a newer one has come out. Rather you should rewrite Run1_XP-64.bat to support the updated version (or if lazy, rename the updated installer). The only proviso is that I won't have tested the updated software.

As noted in your other post, try VMWare server if you find QEMU too slow.