[krick]

Thanks for the quick response.

Kurt_Aust, on 22 June 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

krick, on 22 June 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

2) When I was integrating SP2 using nlite, I got a warning dialog about existing hotfixes that needed to be removed before applying the service pack. Is this normal? My XP x64 source was copied directly from a factory pressed CD. Any hotfixes present must have been put there by Microsoft.

No it is not normal, are you sure that your CD isn't SP2 already? Check the root directory of the CD, if it has WIN51AP.SP2 then the disk is Service Pack 2.

The volume label on the CD is "AX2PXFPP_EN"

The root of the CD only has "WIN51" and "WIN51AP"

The \AMD64\SVCPACK directory contains 4 files...

BRANCHES.INF
HFINT.DAT
KB911164.CAT
KB911164.EXE

In this thread...
http://www.msfn.org/...ws-xp-sp2c-oem/
...A user says this about KB911164...

"That's a non-public hotfix for IE6 which updates the way plug-ins are loaded ("Click here to activate this control") and maybe other things. Just remove it and slipstream the latest cumulative update, which supersedes it."

This post has been edited by krick: 22 June 2012 - 09:07 PM

[Kurt_Aust]

Strange, my SP1 disk (which is really RtM, XP x64 and Server 2003 x64 were released when Server 2003 32-bit had already received SP1) has a volume label of ARMPXOEM_EN

Also there is no SVCpack directory on a default SP1 (or SP2) disk, did you buy an OEM disk yourself (in a plastic DVD style case) or was it supplied with your computer?

[Explorer09]

This page lists the known Windows XP CD labels:
http://www.tacktech....ay.cfm?ttid=342

According to the page "AX2PXFPP_EN" is the Retail version of Windows XP Professional x64, without SP2.
"ARMPXOEM_EN" is the OEM version.

@krick:
It seems that your disc is slipstreamed by someone else. The original disc shouldn't have the \AMD64\SVCPACK directory.

This post has been edited by Explorer09: 23 June 2012 - 12:18 AM

[krick]

Kurt_Aust, on 22 June 2012 - 09:29 PM, said:

Also there is no SVCpack directory on a default SP1 (or SP2) disk, did you buy an OEM disk yourself (in a plastic DVD style case) or was it supplied with your computer?

One of my co-workers picked it up in his college bookstore many years ago, but never got around to installing it. He gave it to me after I mentioned in passing that I was looking for a copy of XP x64 but couldn't find one.

The part number on the CD is E85-03210.
The printing on the disc says...

June 2006
Systems
Student Media / Work At Home Media



I found more information posted in 2007 about KB911164 in a thread about HFSLIP...

http://www.msfn.org/...an-source-flag/

Quote

The newer SP2 disks install a non-public IE6 update from SVCPACK. The existence of the SVCPACK folder causes HFSLIP to trigger the warning.

The reason I haven't come up with a solution for that yet is because, if that update is not installed (which happens after running HFSLIP) and you don't include the latest cumulative update for IE6, you get tons of errors reported in setuperr.log. So I don't want to simply ignore the existence of the SVCPACK folder as a whole. Instead, the warning message needs to be different.

This post has been edited by krick: 23 June 2012 - 08:24 AM

[Kurt_Aust]

I guess you may as well give it a try as is, if Microsoft has done their job right the Service Pack should be able to correctly remove those hotfixes.

[krick]

I'm seeing something strange and I think the WMP11 slipstream might be the cause.

I have a CD image that I made by slipstreaming SP2, and then using the WMP11 slipstreamer to integrate WMP11. No other changes. This installs fine.

However, if I take the same image, and add 5eraph's XP Pro x64 post SP2 update pack and Internet Explorer 8 AddOn, then I get a bunch (6) errors during the install about unsigned drivers. The error log is attached. I had to change the extension because it wouldn't let me attach a ".log" file.

Just to to be sure, I also made an image with SP2 and 5eraph's XP Pro x64 post SP2 update pack. No WMP11, and no IE8. This also installed fine.

When I slipstreamed WMP11 using the tool, I have no idea what the different options are so I chose the "Tweaked" wmp11 output because that's what you chose in your screenshot. I've attached a screenshot of the settings I chose.

Any thoughts?

Attached File(s)

•  setuperr.log.txt (1.5K)
  Number of downloads: 9
•  wmp11_slipstreamer.jpg (61.61K)
  Number of downloads: 7

[Kurt_Aust]

That's normal behaviour or at least it happens on my system as well, don't worry about it.

As far as I can tell it causes no problems on a running system or at least I haven't heard of any.

If you're concerned you can always use the WMP11 silent install option.

[5eraph]

They're not drivers. They're modified WMP11 files. They become unsigned when the WMP11 Slipstreamer modifies them for the Tweaked option. If you don't want the errors then choose the "Vanilla (same as original installer with WGA)" option.

This post has been edited by 5eraph: 25 June 2012 - 08:12 AM

[krick]

5eraph, on 25 June 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:

If you don't want the errors then choose the "Vanilla (same as original installer with WGA)" option.

Thanks. It's working as expected now.

My next question is about the .Net groups. I want to be sure about what you mean by "cumulative".

Given the three groups, A, B, and C below...

If I want to include .NET 3.5, do I need all the files from group A and group B, or just the ones from group B.

Similarly, if I want to include .NET 4.0, do I need the files from groups A, B and C, or just the ones from group C.


BEGIN GROUP A -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
.Net 2.0 SP2 subgroup (\RunOnce) you must manually block the 132MB KB951847 .Net 3.5 SP1 family patch on Windows Update if you only want .Net 2.0 SP2
NetFx20SP2_x64.exe 48,524,296 . Not needed if installing .Net 3.5 SP1 or greater
NDP20SP2-KB958481-x64.exe . 19,282,272 . Application Compatibility Update
NDP20SP2-KB979909-x64.exe .. . . 966,504 . MS10-041 - Data Tampering
NDP20SP2-KB2604092-x64.exe 43,156,080 . MS12-035 - XAML Browser Applications (XBAPs)
NDP20SP2-KB2656352-x64.exe 13,096,048 . MS11-100 - ASP.NET
NDP20SP2-KB2656369-v2-x64.exe 1,556,416 MS12-025 - XAML Browser Applications (XBAPs)
NDP20SP2-KB2686828-x64.exe 11,962,488 . MS12-038 - XAML Browser Applications (XBAPs)
NDP30SP2-KB982524-x64.exe . 30,834,536 . Update Rollup
WindowsServer2003-KB968930-x64-ENG.exe 10,334,496 . PowerShell 2.0
vcredist_x86_2005sp1c.exe .. . . 2,707,352 . Visual C++ 2005 SP1 32-bit . Must be manually renamed - Updated 7 June 2011
vcredist_x64_2005sp1c.exe .. . . 3,175,832 . Visual C++ 2005 SP1 64-bit . Must be manually renamed - Updated 7 June 2011
END GROUP A -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BEGIN GROUP B -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
.Net 3.5 SP1 subgroup (\RunOnce) cumulative with 2.0 SP2 above
dotnetfx35.exe 242,743,296 . Includes and replaces NetFx20SP2_x64.exe from the .Net 2.0 SP2 subgroup
NDP30SP2-KB958483-x64.exe . 17,262,944 . Application Compatibility Update
NDP30SP2-KB982168-x64.exe . 38,987,624 . Strengthen Authentication Credentials
NDP30SP2-KB2604110-x64.exe 28,602,800 . MS12-035 - XAML Browser Applications (XBAPs)
NDP30SP2-KB2656407-x64.exe 30,685,104 . MS12-034 - TrueType Fonts
NDP35SP1-KB958484-x64.exe . . 1,472,352 . Application Compatibility Update
NDP35SP1-KB963707-x64.exe .. . . 759,144 . Firefox Assistant 1.0
NDP35SP1-KB982306-x64.exe . . 2,305,896 . ADO.NET Data Services
NDP35SP1-KB2604111-x64.exe .. . 877,680 . MS12-035 - XAML Browser Applications (XBAPs)
NDP35SP1-KB2657424-x64.exe . 1,775,216 . MS11-100 - ASP.NET
WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB961118-x64-ENU.exe 872,312 . Unsigned PCL inbox printer drivers
vcredist_x86_2008sp1c.exe .. . . 4,479,832 . Visual C++ 2008 SP1 32-bit . Must be manually renamed - Updated 7 June 2011
vcredist_x64_2008sp1c.exe .. . . 5,207,896 . Visual C++ 2008 SP1 64-bit . Must be manually renamed - Updated 7 June 2011
END GROUP B -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BEGIN GROUP C -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
.Net 4.0 RtM subgroup (\RunOnce) cumulative with 3.5 SP1 above
dotNetFx40_Full_x86_x64.exe . 50,449,456
NDP40-KB2468871-v2-x64.exe 28,640,160 . Update Rollup
NDP40-KB2487367-x64.exe .. . . 2,140,520 . MS11-066 - Chart Control
NDP40-KB2533523-x64.exe .. . 39,121,768 . Reliability Update 1
NDP40-KB2600217-x64.exe .. . 33,566,328 . Reliability Update 2
NDP40-KB2604121-x64.exe .. . 40,175,720 . MS12-035 - XAML Browser Applications (XBAPs)
NDP40-KB2656351-x64.exe . . . 9,293,416 . MS11-100 - ASP.NET
NDP40-KB2656368-v2-x64.exe . 1,748,400 . MS12-025 - XAML Browser Applications (XBAPs)
NDP40-KB2656405-x64.exe .. . 12,126,824 . MS12-034 - TrueType Fonts
NDP40-KB2686827-x64.exe . . . 4,348,008 . MS12-038 - XAML Browser Applications (XBAPs)
vcredist_x86_2010sp1c.exe . . . 8,990,552 . Visual C++ 2010 SP1 32-bit . Must be manually renamed - Updated 9 August
vcredist_x64_2010sp1c.exe . . 10,274,136 . Visual C++ 2010 SP1 64-bit . Must be manually renamed - Updated 9 August
END GROUP C -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Kurt_Aust]

cu·mu·la·tive [kyoo-myuh-luh-tiv, -ley-tiv] adjective
1. increasing or growing by accumulation or successive additions: the cumulative effect of one rejection after another.
2. formed by or resulting from accumulation or the addition of successive parts or elements.
3. of or pertaining to interest or dividends that, if not paid when due, become a prior claim for payment in the future: cumulative preferred stocks.

So your options are nothing or A or A+B or A+B+C

[krick]

Kurt_Aust, on 25 June 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

So your options are nothing or A or A+B or A+B+C

Thanks. That answers my question.

However, what you're actually describing is "incremental". As in...

"A service pack can be incremental, which means it only contains the updates that were not present in the previous service packs or, it can be cumulative, which means it includes the contents of all its predecessors."

For example, if dotNetFx40_Full_x86_x64.exe was cumulative, it would contain .NET 2.0 and .NET 3.5.

XP Service pack 2 is cumulative. If I want to slipstream SP2, I don't need to slipstream SP1 first.

[Explorer09]

krick, on 25 June 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

Thanks. That answers my question.

However, what you're actually describing is "incremental". As in...

"A service pack can be incremental, which means it only contains the updates that were not present in the previous service packs or, it can be cumulative, which means it includes the contents of all its predecessors."

For example, if dotNetFx40_Full_x86_x64.exe was cumulative, it would contain .NET 2.0 and .NET 3.5.

XP Service pack 2 is cumulative. If I want to slipstream SP2, I don't need to slipstream SP1 first.

It would be better if they use simpler language like "You also need the .NET 2.0 and .NET 3.5 updates above."
avoiding the term "incremental" or "cumulative".

By the way, .NET 3.5 does include .NET 3.0 and .NET 2.0, so you can call it cumulative. But .NET 4.0 is not, and I personally avoid using .NET 4.0 apps.

[Kurt_Aust]

July updates

Deletions:
Hotfix\312-msxml4-KB973685-enu.exe
Hotfix\316-msxml6-KB973686-enu-amd64.exe
Hotfix\472-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2079403-x64-ENU.exe
Hotfix\780-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2585542-x64-ENU.exe
Hotfix\836-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2709162-x64-ENU.exe

Additions:
@ . . . Hotfix\844-msxml4-KB2721691-enu.exe .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,053,704 . Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 SP3
@ . . . Hotfix\848-msxml6-KB2721693-enu-amd64.exe . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,866,312 . Microsoft XML Core Services 6.0 SP2
@ . . . Hotfix\852-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2655992-x64-ENU.exe . . 1,219,552 . MS12-049 - TLS protocol
# ▼. Hotfix\856-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2691442-x64-ENU.exe . 12,371,464 . MS12-048 - Windows Shell
@ . . . Hotfix\860-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2698365-x64-ENU.exe . . 1,950,976 . MS12-045 - Data Access Components
@ ▼ Hotfix\864-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2718523-x64-ENU.exe . . 4,377,600 . MS12-047 - Kernel-Mode Drivers
@ ▼ Hotfix\868-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2719985-x64-ENU.exe . . 2,786,784 . MS12-043 - XML Core Services 3.0
# ▼. RunOnce\install_flash_player_11_active_x.exe .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,387,848 . Updated 11 July
@ . . . RunOnce\rvkroots.exe .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 161,408 . Untrusted Certificate Store

[Explorer09]

I've prepared a list of the updates releases this month (August 2012). I think it will be useful.

August 2012 Patch Tuesday
KB number | MS bulletin | description | download links | updates replaced | other notes

Windows XP x64
2722913 | MS12-052 | IE security | 30591 30528 | replaces (ms12-037) 2699988
2705219 | MS12-054 | browser.dll & netapi32.dll | 30543 | replaces (ms08-067) 958644
2712808 | MS12-054 | localspl.dll | 30606 | replaces (ms09-022) 961501
2731847 | MS12-055 | win32k.sys | 30605 | replaces (ms12-047) 2718523
2706045 | MS12-056 | jscript & vbscript 5.8 | 30510 | replaces (ms11-031) 2510531 and non-security 2632503 | x64 only
2661254 | advisory | crypt32.dll | 30494 | | see below
2732052 | | timezone update | 30548 | replaces 2633952 and 2698707 |

Note: 2661254 + 2728973 (rvkroots.exe) replaces 2718704. 2661254 is not a high-priority update AFAIK.

EDIT: I forgot the timezone update, now added.

This post has been edited by Explorer09: 16 August 2012 - 06:10 AM

[Kurt_Aust]

August updates

Deletions: (all at \Hotfix)
140-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB958644-x64-ENU.exe
200-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB961501-x64-ENU.exe
828-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2698707-x64-ENU.exe
832-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2718704-x64-ENU.exe
864-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2718523-x64-ENU.exe
900-5er_IE8_Addon_2009-03_4_x64.7z
904-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2699988-x64-ENU.exe
908-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2510531-x64-ENU.exe
914-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2632503-x64-ENU.exe

Replace:
# ▼. RunOnce\install_flash_player_11_active_x.exe .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,232,584 . Updated 14 August

Additions: (all at \Hotfix)
@ . . . 872-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2712808-x64-ENU.exe . . 1,056,000 . MS12-054 - Networking Components
@ ▼ 876-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2731847-x64-ENU.exe . . 4,381,704 . MS12-055 - Kernel-Mode Drivers
@ . . . 880-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2705219-x64-ENU.exe . . 1,224,192 . MS12-054 - Networking Components
@ . . . 884-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2661254-x64-ENU.exe . . 1,687,552 . Minimum Certificate Key Length
@ . . . 888-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2732052-x64-ENU.exe .. . . 717,832 . Time Zone - Cumulative
# ▼. 900-5er_IE8_Addon_2009-03_5_x64.7z . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24,194,995 . 5eraph's Internet Explorer 8 AddOn Updated 16 August
# ▼. 904-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2722913-x64-ENU.exe 43,865,608 . MS12-052 - Cumulative Security Update
@ . . . 908-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2706045-x64-ENU.exe . 2,483,712 . MS12-056 - JScript & VBScript Engines

Thanks Explorer09, someone double checking is always helpful, especially on things that don't show up on the monthly security bulletin such as "Note: 2661254 + 2728973 (rvkroots.exe) replaces 2718704. 2661254 is not a high-priority update AFAIK."

I've decided from now on to leave in the batch files all my hardware specific driver commands but comment them all out as well as some other non-freeware applications I install.

[Kurt_Aust]

September updates

Deletion:
RunOnce\WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2695962-x64-ENU.exe

Replace:
# ▼. RunOnce\install_flash_player_11_active_x.exe .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,575,112 . Updated 21 August

Addition:
@ . . . RunOnce\WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2736233-x64-ENU.exe . 685,592 . ActiveX Kill-Bits Cumulative


Obviously one of those almost mythical months with no Microsoft security updates (the ActiveX Kill-Bits target Cisco software). On the supported application front, the batch files will now remove AVG security toolbar (for I.E.) and the obsolete versions of the Visual C++ runtimes installed by QuickTime Alternative Lite and Avast Anti-Virus.

The recommended method for installing Microsoft Office 2007 has been changed with instructions and download links in the file Misc\Office2007.html (but the old method will still work). Also the "Small Business" version is now supported along with the previously supported "Home and Student", however support for other versions will require the help of you dear reader.

[Explorer09]

An out-of-band security update has been released today (21 Sep 2012):

2744842 | MS12-063 | IE security | download (IE6):34747 download (IE8):34749 | replaces (MS12-052) KB2722913

[Kurt_Aust]

Critical Internet Explorer update

Deletion:
Hotfix\904-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2722913-x64-ENU.exe

Replace:
# ▼. RunOnce\install_flash_player_11_active_x.exe .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,573,296 . Updated 18 September

Addition:
# ▼. Hotfix\904-IE8-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2744842-x64-ENU.exe 43,867,192 . MS12-063 - Cumulative Security Update


Added support for Microsoft's Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit with all EMET tested applications being protected (All.xml applied) and the Oracle VirtualBox extension pack (but it won't show as installed until you create your first VM).

Speaking of VirtualBox, I got an email stating that my long running problems had finally been fixed with 4.1.22 and to reopen the bug ticket if I was still having problems. Having tried 4.1.20 and having it still hang all the time I didn't hold out much hope but 4.1.22 seems OK. I was going to report that the problem had been fixed but now Oracle won't let me login to my account, oh well.

None the less I'll be sticking with 3.0.14 as they started Vista-fying it with the 3.1.x series, by which I mean the settings I change when doing testing are 2 clicks away in VirtualBox 3.0.14 but 5 clicks away in later versions.

Explorer09, yep, had the VM running as I headed out the door this morning.

EDIT: I'd advise caution before installing Microsoft's EMET as 7-Zip and Skype didn't work for me after installing EMET. I did a survey of all the EMET supported applications in the guide and found that WinRAR and Internet Explorer (64-bit only, 32-bit OK) didn't work either. I've added commands to resolve these issues but can't say with any confidence that there won't be others.

This post has been edited by Kurt_Aust: 24 September 2012 - 12:51 AM

[Explorer09]

I hope this can save people's time.

October 2012 Patch Tuesday
Windows XP x64

KB2724197 | MS12-068 | Kernel | 34840 | (KB2731847 (win32k.sys) + KB2724197 (ntoskrnl.exe etc.) together replace KB2676562)
KB2749655 | advisory | Wintrust.dll | 34877 | nothing replaced
KB2705219-v2 | 30543 (same link as before) *
KB2731847-v2 | 30605 (same link as before) *
KB2661254-v2 | 30494 (same link as before) *
KB2756822 | timezone | | 34911 | replaces KB2732052
KB890830 | MSRT v4.13.6701.0 | 9905 (same link as before) | replaces v4.12.6601.0

* : Microsoft just re-signed their updates with new certificates. The v2 version of these updates should replace their v1 versions.

This post has been edited by Explorer09: 09 October 2012 - 07:18 PM

[Kurt_Aust]

October updates

Deletions (all at Hotfix\):
816-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2676562-x64-ENU.exe
876-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2731847-x64-ENU.exe
880-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2705219-x64-ENU.exe
888-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2732052-x64-ENU.exe

Replace (at RunOnce\):
# ▼. install_flash_player_11_active_x.exe .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,575,864 . Updated 8 October


Additions (all at Hotfix\):
@ ▼ 876-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2731847-v2-x64-ENU.exe 4,382,264 . MS12-055 - Kernel-Mode Drivers
@ . . . 880-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2705219-v2-x64-ENU.exe 1,224,216 . MS12-054 - Networking Components
@ . . . 888-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2749655-x64-ENU.exe .. . . 878,616 . Improperly Signed Microsoft Binaries
# ▼. 892-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2724197-x64-ENU.exe . . 7,835,672 . MS12-068 - Kernel
@ . . . 896-WindowsServer2003.WindowsXP-KB2756822-x64-ENU.exe .. . . 717,880 . Time Zone - Cumulative


It is not critical to replace KB2731847 & KB2705219 as only the digital certificate changed and a system will still run correctly (for now) with the older versions, however it could be an issue in the future.