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#1 User is offline   tarlar 

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 12:19 PM

While installing update KB941649 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/941649) it searches for updates, then OK to install but then the installation ends with nothing but a "The following updates were not installed: KB941649"... it's easier to blame vLite when it might not have anything to do with it... and, I don't actually have a preset, but this installation is pretty bare, there is no WEI, no games, no IE, etc. Any ideas?

This post has been edited by tarlar: 05 October 2007 - 12:21 PM



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Posted 06 October 2007 - 01:38 AM

I've had a worse problem with that update. I installed it 'manually' and after my PC had rebooted, Vista just hangs on the loading screen. Safe mode etc don't work either.

So I tried creating a fresh Vlite'd Vista install disc, which includes all of the relevant updates, including KB941649. When I tried to use this the install hung once it reached the 'completing installation' stage.

This is all on Vista Ultimate x64.

EAC.

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 04:51 AM

I have the same problem as EAC, everything is fine while installing the update (also on x64). But upon reboot it never gets past the loading screen. I've tried a heavily vLite:ed installation and one with just drivers and languages removed, same thing on both. I don't think this is a vLite problem.

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 06:58 AM

I've just some more testing and it seems that Maw is correct - Vlite isn't at fault.

Installed Vista Ultimate x64 without Vlite, and updated it via windows update. After it had rebooted, I 'manually' installed KB941649. This seemed to work ok, but got stuck on 'configuring updates'. I reset the computer and sure enough, it now gets stuck on the loading screen. Well done Microsoft :angry:

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 09:49 AM

huh, can't say i'm surprised...

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 10:39 AM

KB941649 installed and working fine here (vlite v1.0).

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 10:47 AM

same here... won't boot anymore. I even reformatted and on a vanilla install (no nlite or anything) same result. I really want to like Vista, but man it's a house of cards for me. :unsure:

Vista 32 bit business

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 02:03 PM

Getting the same problem here, and I'll explain in detail.

I downloaded the KB941649 patch manually from Microsoft's site on Thursday, after seeing a Windows Troubleshooting entry on my system suggesting me to install it. So I did that, and chose to Restart Later (because I'm that sort of guy, I guess).

When I decided it was time for bed, I closed all my open programs and rebooted, not waiting for the reboot; I chose to reboot and just turned off my monitor.

Next morning, I went to my PC and noticed it was stuck at the Installing Update phase of the reboot process. The aura ring was spinning, but I guessed the system had PLENTY of time to install the patch during the previous 7 or 8 hours, and I kept my power button pressed for 5 seconds.

I powered my PC back up again, and Vista wouldn't load through the normal process. I powered off. Restarted, went into Safe Mode: same problem as you guys, stopped at crcdisk.sys. This is the sort of file you don't like getting in the way, especially if you don't have a really up-to-date backup of important personal files =( . But then I forced a reboot, pressed F8 again, and was greeted with the previously unseen Last Good Configuration option, which I selected. Lo and behold, Vista was running again.

And the only noticeable difference I saw was a ton of programs dying because of DEP (Data Execution Prevention) errors (which I cannot blame this patch for, since I hadn't run them previously). I then went about to do my regular stuff, and upon installing an HP Officejet driver, I was asked to reboot for the driver setup to continue. I clicked OK. BIG MISTAKE.

Now I can't boot into Vista any way. This is a fully-legal retail copy of Ultimate x86, US English version, so everything seems OK to me. Neither Start Normally nor Safe Mode nor Last Good Configuration do anything. I have no idea why this is happening.

What have I done so far?

Fortunately I had a copy of Hiren's Boot CD 6 lying around, and went into Seagate's SeaTools diagnostics program (I may have a Seagate disc, not sure, I hardly ever remember my HDD manufacturer =P but it should work with anything). The program told me my File Structure has Critical Errors. This would explain why the Vista booting progress bar stops and starts at very specific intervals.

There was no option for repairing it from SeaTools so I decided to insert my Vista DVD and boot into it. I did so, selected Repair My Computer and was promptly suggested to use System Restore to boot into a previous restore point. I said OK. It did its thing, thought for a while, and rebooted my system. But the problem persisted.

Vista still doesn't boot up. So I ran the Vista Repair My Computer tool from the DVD again, and said NO to System Restore. It then took about 15 minutes to go through the system, checking for the issue. Once it finished, after telling me how sorry it was that no reason was found :( , I clicked on "View diagnostic and repair details". All tasks had completed successfully, but the last line reported:

 
Root cause found:
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A patch is preventing the system from starting. 
which made a hell of a lot of sense.

But I still can't do anything. The Vista recovery tools I now have available are:
  • Startup Repair: restarts the whole repair wizard
  • System Restore: lets me use a Restore Point, which hasn't worked previously
  • Windows Complete PC Restore: if I had a kickass backup, I'd choose this to restore my PC. BUT I DON'T =P
  • Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool: scans the RAM for errors. I'm not even going to bother
  • Command Prompt: I imagine I'm going to eventually resort to this, but since I don't know exactly what file/s to delete or what operation to perform, I'm going to pass for now

Would turning off my PC while it was theoretically updating Vista with this patch have anything to do with it? Maybe. But since nobody else is reporting an interrupted patch install, I'd have to go with NO.

So, here's hoping Microsoft realeases an urgent patch to fix this...patch.

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 02:28 PM

Similar issues here. My system did not boot at all, not normally, not in safe mode and not after selecting Last good configuration. I had a test installation of Vista (x64) from which I created a new installation with vLite. This installation also hung at the final step of the installation process.
Fortunately I had only installed 2 of patches (along with nHancer, Nvidia graphics tweaking tool) and my guess was the update mentioned here was the cause. After keeping it out of the integration of updates, installation went fine. I am staying clear from this update, until the cause and a solution have been found.

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 11:43 AM

I tried it now with all removed except IE and Aero and it installed fine (restarted 2 times to make sure). Haven't tried integrating yet though.

Someone who can't install this post-install please attach your preset.

edit: tried integrating on x64 Vista Ultimate with all removed as well and it installed fine. So it seems I need your preset for that too or the removals are not the cause.

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 01:41 PM

Well seems I did find my preset file, but reading the previous posts I now doubt it's vLite's fault...

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:53 AM

I initially thought it might be an issue with VLite, but as I mentioned previously, I also set up a new pc using the original Vista Ultimate x64 disc, no integrated hotfixes, and no use of Vlite. Once installed I updated it via windows update. Then once that was done and the pc had rebooted, I manually installed KB941649, and it stuck on configuring updates. Rebooting made it just hang on the loading screen.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 12:52 PM

But so far nobody has tried that with 32-bit Vista, have they?

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 03:28 PM

After what EAC last said I won't be pursuing this, better to focus on confirmed bugs.

If anyone however finds vLite guilty for this I'm listening.

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Posted 13 October 2007 - 07:20 AM

i had tried to integrate KB941649 to Windows Vista Ultimate x86, after installing of windows i found that KB941649 had not been integrated,i install it manualy without any problem and windows boots normaly.

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Posted 22 October 2007 - 08:28 AM

I had the problem with this particular hotfix as well. I've never used vLite, yet. So, vLite is out of the equation for this problem.

Those of you having problem with this hotfix, are you guying using your SATA HDD as in AHCI mode??

1. I downloaded some hotfixes including KB941649 in my HDD. (Windows XP)
2. Format my c:\
3. Install Vista x64
4. As soon as Vista is installed, I installed hotfixes manually. (Installing hotfixes was the first thing. None of device drivers are installed).
5. After installing KB941649, I got prompted to reboot. So I rebooted.
6. Windows would not load from the loading screen.


So, I formatted my c:\ drive again, and started fresh installation of Vista x64.
This time, I installed AHCI driver for Intel ICH9R (south bridge) from my USB flash drive at the beginning stage of Vista installation. (Where you get prompted with list of your drives/partitions, and where to install Vista etc. Click "Load Drivers" and let it install AHCI driver for ICH9R).
As soon as Vista is installed, I installed KB941649. No problem. :thumbup

I think KB941649 has something to do with AHCI driver/mode. Just make sure you've installed AHCI driver prior to install this hotfix. Also make sure the driver is the latest one from your chipset manufacturer.

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Posted 23 October 2007 - 01:04 PM

This is definitly a Vista bug and has nothing to do with vlite.

Had the same problem with Vista 32bit (not a vlite installation) on my ASUS V2S Notebook.

The update has problems with SATA HDD Controllers.

I Switched the SATA settings in BIOS and was able to boot (normal boot).

On my Notebook I changed these settings in BIOS:
1. Advanced -> IDE Configuration -> SATA Operation Mode -> switched to "compatible"
2. Security -> I/O Interface Security -> eSATA Interface -> switched to "locked" (-> means disable for my notebooks bios)


Here are the steps I did afterwards:

1. uninstalled the update
2. rebooted & activated SATA settings in BIOS again
3. installed the latest version of my sata driver (previously was no vendor driver installed)
4. installed the KB941649 again
5. reboot

Everything is working fine, no hangs on boot at "crcdisk.sys" anymore.

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Posted 03 November 2007 - 03:10 PM

Just thought I'd point out that MS has released a second version of this update because of the problems described in this thread. So if you download this update now you will get the new version that doesn't have the problem anymore!

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/941649

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 11:58 PM

Still doesn't install. Failure through Windows Update and doing the manual update. This one doesn't want to install on my system... :wacko:

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:37 AM

There is a problem with this update. I've included it in my Update Pack but there is a problem with it. For me it just won't integrate but it does install off WU afterwards. Another member has suggested that this isn't the only update that does this but it's the only one I've encountered. I'm still waiting for fedback but I assume that it happens to everyone since I made a post that said so...

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