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#1 User is offline   galahs 

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 11:00 PM

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http://forums.winamp...threadid=278159

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-Alas, Winamp 5.5 is no longer compatible with Win9x (Win 98/ME),
-and all support for those OS'es has now been discontinued.
-Win2k/XP/2003/Vista are all supported.


Another one bytes the dust!

Thankfully 5.35 is pretty **** good, so I'm not really worried. Looks like 5.5 is becoming "bloatware" anyway.


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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:30 AM

Why do all nice small programs like Winamp tend to become huge bloatware full of thirdparty programs? Winamp toolbar, Winamp remote, eMusic account...
Anyway, you're right, we don't need the new version... Personally, I'll stick with 2.77 : small is beautiful.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 07:46 AM

Version 2.90 user here, so I don't care either. It all started going downhill after 2.xx.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 08:39 AM

What Media Players still in active development still currently support Win9x?

Windows Media Player, QuickTime and Winamp have all dropped support. So what's left?

This post has been edited by galahs: 10 October 2007 - 08:51 AM


#5 User is offline   Andrew T. 

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 10:27 AM

I'm guessing that they also squeezed out NT 4.0 compatibility when I wasn't looking? <_<

I'm not sure what active media-player development remains for Windows 9x, but at least with a program like Winamp the functionality and format-compatibility have been stable for some time. I happen to have version 5.07 installed myself, and it still works like a charm.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:22 PM

View Postgalahs, on Oct 10 2007, 03:39 PM, said:

What Media Players still in active development still currently support Win9x?
I think Media player classic still support 98.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:25 PM

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Winamp toolbar, Winamp remote


Ironically those were long available as even Winamp 2.x plugins if I'm correct. ^,~

Personally, I've been using 2.92 for a very long time and it has yet to fail me in any way nor fail with any format's I've thrown at it. It's a pity though for the fans of the 5.x series that they're dropping it all of a sudden. Wasn't compatibility one of their focuses in the past? If they were dropping compatibility for the sake of code-size (I'm guessing here) through dropping the compatibility libraries, they should have provided the needed compatibility files as a separate download instead.

For those still seeking older (functional) versions of winamp could benefit from taking a look at http://oldversion.com :)

This post has been edited by Chozo4: 10 October 2007 - 02:28 PM


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Posted 11 October 2007 - 01:59 AM

View PostglocK_94, on Oct 10 2007, 10:22 PM, said:

View Postgalahs, on Oct 10 2007, 03:39 PM, said:

What Media Players still in active development still currently support Win9x?
I think Media player classic still support 98.

last version from march 06. :}
+Winamp install file has now passed the 8MB :w00t:

#9 User is offline   galahs 

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 03:55 AM

Media Player Classic still seems to support Win9x

Their latest beta 6.4.9.1 has a version available for 2000/XP and 98/Me

http://www.free-code...yer_Classic.htm

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 06:51 AM

I have just tested media Player Classic 6.4.9.1 and VLC 0.8.6c with some video files and I have to say Microsoft's Media Player 9 seams to handle the files better, faster and with less glitches.

As for Audio, Winamp seams to be able to handle mp3 and wma whilst taking up a minimum of resources.

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 07:05 AM

Seams RealPlayer has dropped Win9x support in Version 11 as well :(

The last RealPlayer Version that works on Windows 98/Me is Version 10.5

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 07:09 AM

well for me vlc 0.8.6c didnt work very well, i couldnt really watch anything 0.8.6b works much better

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 08:03 AM

I am going to give MPlayer a try next

I found a nice bundle that has the command line MPlayer + GUI + Installer here...
http://mulder.dummwi.../?page=projects

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 08:06 AM

www.jrmediacenter.com

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 11:44 AM

"Win9x" includes Windows 95 as well as 98 and ME. This is the way things seem to break down:

Winamp--
Last 95-compatible version: Somewhere after 5.07 (I tried a more recent version once, and couldn't get it to work right)
Last 98/ME-compatible version: 5.35

RealPlayer--
Last 95-compatible version: 8 (The last usable version too, IMO; at least after unchecking options and cleaning up the interface.)
Last 98/ME-compatible version: 10.5

Windows Media Player--
Last 95-compatible version: 7.0 (although 6.4 is the last version I'd consider usable.)
Last 98/ME-compatible version: 9.x?

QuickTime--
Last 95-compatible version: 5
Last 98/ME-compatible version: 6

Media Player Classic--
Last 95-compatible version: ? (It claims to be compatible with Windows 95, but it prompts a kernel32.dll error on my system.)

Of course, the "media players" that exist don't exactly afford a direct comparison: Different pieces of software do different things. I personally use Winamp to play WAV and MP3 audio files; Media Player, RealPlayer, and QuickTime for their own respective proprietary formats, and the ordinary CD Player accessory for audio CDs. Works for me... :whistle:

This post has been edited by Andrew T.: 11 October 2007 - 11:47 AM


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Posted 11 October 2007 - 11:53 AM

View Postnewsposter, on Oct 11 2007, 08:06 AM, said:

www.jrmediacenter.com

:realmad:

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 12:40 PM

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Windows Media Player--
Last 95-compatible version: 7.0 (although 6.4 is the last version I'd consider usable.)

Using the installer from version 7.0 you can get version 7.1 to install, which will work fine. Details

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Media Player Classic--
Last 95-compatible version: ? (It claims to be compatible with Windows 95, but it prompts a kernel32.dll error on my system.)

I never got it to work either, and I tried many versions. Most of the versions don't even show an error, they silently quit.

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 12:34 PM

View PostBenoitRen, on Oct 11 2007, 02:40 PM, said:

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Windows Media Player--
Last 95-compatible version: 7.0 (although 6.4 is the last version I'd consider usable.)

Using the installer from version 7.0 you can get version 7.1 to install, which will work fine. Details


Ah, yes: I've seen that procedure before, although I've never tried it out. :yes:

What are the differences between Media Player 7.0 and 7.1 that would warrant upgrading, other than that one is rigged not to install on 95 and NT4 while the other isn't?

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 03:05 PM

I still use old good & small 2.95 - the latest of 2.xx line I could find.

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 10:22 PM

View PostBenoitRen, on Oct 11 2007, 02:40 PM, said:

I never got it to work either, and I tried many versions. Most of the versions don't even show an error, they silently quit.


I never saw this "silently quit" problem with Windows 9x, unless it's a game that runs in full screen mode, DirectX games are notorious for this, no error message to tell what went wrong!

The "silently quit" problem usually is seen under Windows 2000 and Windows XP only, apparently, Windows 2000 and Window XP sometimes terminates the application without an error message. Apparently, it's because of a DrWatson bug in Windows 2000 and Windows XP.

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