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Ludwig wrote: Shouldn't we also mention that we can edit files or pointers that is within programs so they can work with
9x, Windows 3.1, 2.1, 1.0?

Is there any good info about how to do this? A special program for doing it would be nice. Maybe one could even make a wrapper that cathes missing dll-links and redirects the call to a dll in the program directory according to a lookup table that can be manually edited.


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I use the free hex editor XVI32 to do that. Most often to change the API call IsDebuggerPresent (not present in Win95, and most programs don't even use it) into ReadFile.
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galahs :hello:

Thanks for yesterdays (26 August 2009) update of your post #2.

Nice work! :thumbup

Edited by lightning slinger, 27 August 2009 - 01:29 AM.


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Opera 10 released:
http://www.opera.com/

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Opera 10 released:
http://www.opera.com/


I love it. The standard skin has improved a lot and it's simply flying on my old Win98 box. Resource usage is still high but usable (RP9 installed) and the speed is worth it. Anyone who uses Opera on Win9x should update. Or start using it :)

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Opera 10 released:
http://www.opera.com/


I love it. The standard skin has improved a lot and it's simply flying on my old Win98 box. Resource usage is still high but usable (RP9 installed) and the speed is worth it. Anyone who uses Opera on Win9x should update. Or start using it :)

Got to agree with all this, had Beta 3 Build 1699 and now the RC Build 1733 and beats FF hands down on speed on both my 98SE and 98SE2ME boxes.


Cannot see it being long before a final release if this last build is anything to go by.

Edit: Latest build offered is Build 1750 and see noguru's post below.

Edited by lightning slinger, 02 September 2009 - 05:48 AM.


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Officially it's a RC. But it's a bit confusing since it's offered on the Opera website like a final and 9.64 users ( on Windows at least, dunno about other platforms) get a message that there's a new version available. Seems all pretty final to me.

edit: Seems that some sites still call it RC but it's a final.

Edited by noguru, 02 September 2009 - 03:59 AM.


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If someone could give an example with screenshots how to patch a program to work in win9x with a hex editor, I would be very interested. Many free programs seem to fail due to their license manager, which is a sad failure for free programs.

If it can be done manually, it should be easy to make a program that does the pathes. Furthermore, if a newer version of a dll is needed, I would like to rename that dll and patch the program to call the renamed dll, rather than replacing the original windows dll. Maybe one could even preload that dll in a VBscript so that it does not have to be in the windows directory.

Today, this is needed for Win9x, but some day for winXP too I presume.

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First post is wrong. Newer versions of VirtualDub do work. I'm using an older version (1.7.xx), but I think the latest 1.7 and 1.8 work fine as well.

If someone could give an example with screenshots how to patch a program to work in win9x with a hex editor...

Better start a new thread.

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SeaMonkey 1.1.18 released:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

Firefox 3.5.3 released:
http://www.mozilla.c...3/releasenotes/

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Java SE Runtime Environment 5.0u21

download

From Sun website:

J2SE 5.0 is in its Java Technology End of Life (EOL) transition period. The EOL transition period began April 8th, 2008 and will complete October 30th, 2009.

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ONGD - FREE - Maxthon 2.1.5.1256

Last Maxthon version w9x compatible is 2.1.5.1256 direct download, Maxthon website.
Note that on the download archive page, it's refered as 2.1.5.1250 but the 2.1.5.1256 ANSI version will be automaticaly downloaded at the end of the installation process (so you must be connected to the internet to have the ANSI version installed otherwise there won't be any exe file to run).
(On the list it was written Maxthon 1.6/2.0, which means 1.6 or 2.0.)

One detail: press Ctrl+F to have the "search in page" dialog as it seems that they forgot a direct menu item for this tool.

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ONGD - FREE - DVDFab HD Decrypter --- http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm

Someone might want to take a relook at this one. The latest stable DVDFab, version 6.0.6.0, is giving me an illegal operation error. I uninstalled RevolutionsPack9 and KernelEx, but it still crashes. DrWatson doesn't report anything else. The crash says:

DVDFAB caused an invalid page fault in module <unknown> at 0000:00000001
I have also reported this recently at DVDFab's forums, but no answers yet. DVDFab still supposedly supports 98SE, as is stated on their site, but it's unknown if and when they will drop it... especially once they see this error of mine! Perhaps someone else here can try it out. The last DVDFab version that worked fine for me in 98SE was 5.2.2.2.

Edited by technoid, 17 September 2009 - 06:15 PM.


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If anyone is using Super AntiSpyware Free on 98SE, I would advise them NOT to update to Version 4.25.1012.

Version 4.24.1004 works fine and continues to download definitions updates with no problem. If this continues and there should be no reason to expect it not to be the case then we will still have a least one decent malware scanner to work with after the recent demise of the Emsisoft A-Squared 9x version scanner.

Whether this problem gets cured in a future version is unclear but we may well be looking at V.4.24.1004 being the last SAS Free version for 98 users that works.

HTH
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The current versions of SAS Free from V4.28.XXXX onwards do NOT run on 9X systems at all despite SAS indicating that they will according to current information on their website.  :unsure:


However they have indicated that they "do not unwind releases" and V4.24.1004 will continue to support 9X.  :rolleyes:
 

Edited by lightning slinger, 04 November 2009 - 09:43 AM.


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This was brought to my attention over at the K6plus forum ...and is truely unique.....did a search here and found no references.

If your into benchmarking your system, this is a one of kind...no install, I know it supports 98se and ME.

OSMark... (OpenSourceMark)

http://www.vanshardw...Mark/040422.htm


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ONGD - FREE - DVDFab HD Decrypter --- http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm

Someone might want to take a relook at this one. The latest stable DVDFab, version 6.0.6.0, is giving me an illegal operation error. I uninstalled RevolutionsPack9 and KernelEx, but it still crashes. DrWatson doesn't report anything else. The crash says:

DVDFAB caused an invalid page fault in module <unknown> at 0000:00000001
I have also reported this recently at DVDFab's forums, but no answers yet. DVDFab still supposedly supports 98SE, as is stated on their site, but it's unknown if and when they will drop it... especially once they see this error of mine! Perhaps someone else here can try it out. The last DVDFab version that worked fine for me in 98SE was 5.2.2.2.


Problem its on vso_hwe.dll - replace with vso_hwe.dll / DVDFab 5
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Problem its on vso_hwe.dll - replace with vso_hwe.dll / DVDFab 5

Well, it did not quite work. I renamed vso_hwe.dll in the 6.0.6.0 folder and then as you instructed, I copied over vso_hwe.dll from 5.2.2.2 into the 6.0.6.0 folder. The illegal op is gone and the program continues until you choose which function you want, e.g. DVD to DVD or free HD Decrypter, etc. Choose desired function and from there a pop up error occurs: "Encountered an improper". Press Ok and you get a weird screen, most of the program is invisible and your desktop/Start is messed up. You need to end DVDFab task to get back to normal, but you need to reboot anyway, because it's still messy. I will try in another 98SE box.

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Latest DVDFab seems to be poisoned with terrible GDI leak. GDI Heap Extender is able to make it run, but it still leaks more than half of system resources. You can try to persuade developers to fix that, but usually they don't really care.

Note: GDI Heap Extender is still in deep beta.

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... DVD to DVD or free HD Decrypter, etc. Choose desired function and from there a pop up error occurs: "Encountered an improper". Press Ok and you get a weird screen, most of the program is invisible and your desktop/Start is messed up. You need to end DVDFab task to get back to normal, but you need to reboot anyway, because it's still messy. I will try in another 98SE box.


DVD to DVD - only with Alcohol 120% (1.9.5.3) split big ISO at 1 GB. (This software ISO (DVD to DVD) required NTFS (>4GB)....
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Latest DVDFab seems to be poisoned with terrible GDI leak. GDI Heap Extender is able to make it run, but it still leaks more than half of system resources. You can try to persuade developers to fix that, but usually they don't really care.

Note: GDI Heap Extender is still in deep beta.

DVD to DVD - only with Alcohol 120% (1.9.5.3) split big ISO at 1 GB. (This software ISO (DVD to DVD) required NTFS (>4GB)....

Thanks guys. I will try to persuade them (DVDFab developers), but so far no real help at their forums. A couple of their users keep saying to upgrade my O/S, hehe (FYI, yes it does work on my XP).

There is a new stable DVDFab released, 6.0.7.0. I do not see anything in "changelog" concerning 98SE issues. I have not downloaded it yet (I'm on dialup). Perhaps someone can test that too.

6.0.7.0 changes:

DVDFab products 6.0.7.0 is out (September 18, 2009):

http://www.dvdfab.com/download.htm

What's New:

DVDFab 6.0.7.0 Updated!

* New: Updated language files.

DVDFab "DVD to DVD":

* New: Added support for new copy protections as found on DVDs (Knowing, etc.) from EUROVIDEO, Germany.
* New: Improved PathPlayer performance in certain cases.
* Fix: Playable content may be removed in very special case when PathPlayer is enabled.
* Note: PathPlayer is very stable now, we strongly recommend user to "Always enable PathPlayer".

DVDFab "Blu-ray to Blu-ray":

* New: AACS MKB15 (Easy Virtue, US) is fully supported now.
* New: Improved copying performance when there are multiple unit keys.
* Fix: Blu-ray disc cannot be opened when there are certain authoring errors.


This begs my next question... is there a free/share-ware DVD burner that someone highly recommends, for 98SE?

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This begs my next question... is there a free/share-ware DVD burner that someone highly recommends, for 98SE?

You could try the last ANSI (9x) version of the free InfraRecorder 0.45:
http://sourceforge.n...si.exe/download

BTW, DVDFab 6.0.7.0 seems to work okay for me in 98SE.

Edited by RetroOS, 23 September 2009 - 12:13 AM.

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You could try the last ANSI (9x) version of the free InfraRecorder 0.45:
http://sourceforge.n...si.exe/download

I don't understand, did they take away 9x support? I can't even find that mentioned at infrarecorder.org and their changelogs .

BTW, DVDFab 6.0.7.0 seems to work okay for me in 98SE.

Great to hear! Did you go all the way through a process and, say, try to copy a DVD movie and then burn the copy to disc without a messed up Windows? I will try to download it this weekend when I have broadband available and then I'll return here to say if it did work or not for me.

Edited by technoid, 23 September 2009 - 03:36 AM.


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...I don't understand, did they take away 9x support? I can't even find that mentioned at infrarecorder.org and their changelogs...

No mention. They just plain stopped compiling an ANSI version after 0.45!
Up until then, they had both ANSI and Unicode versions.
I did try the latest Unicode version with KernelEx and it seemed to load to the GUI okay, but I did not test it any further.

...Did you go all the way through a process and... then burn the copy to disc without a messed up Windows?...

Actually, I just checked that it would start up to the GUI - sorry. I'll have to test it out properly.
The previous version I had was 5.2.3.2.
The installer grew about 60% in size between 5.x and 6.x.

Edited by RetroOS, 24 September 2009 - 12:28 AM.

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Actually, I just checked that it would start up to the GUI - sorry. I'll have to test it out properly.
The previous version I had was 5.2.3.2.
The installer grew about 60% in size between 5.x and 6.x.

One reason I like DVDFab is the eval/free version has the movie decoding and burning both functioning. Version 5.x works fine, but it doesn't have burning. I don't have 5.2.3.2 (I will have to find it), but I'm assuming that doesn't have burning either (in the free version). Plus the fact every new DVDFab version can decode newer movie securities. Anyway, I hope Infrarecorder can burn decoded movies, as I haven't tried it yet.

Oh, I just realized that soporific's Autopatcher98 has Infrarecorder (0.44 I think), just never tried it, heh. I knew there was something vaguely familiar about the name "Infrarecorder".

Edited by technoid, 24 September 2009 - 04:29 AM.


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A growing number of 9X users are running without resident AV programs, some are surviving by good housekeeping and some are surviving by good fortune.

The periodic use of online scanners is therefore the only method of checking if you are operating a clean machine.

The following online AV scanners are currently still supporting 9X. Some require IE and ActiveX and some do list support for other browsers, however I personally run them all on IE6 and is the only time IE is put to use.


Symantec Security Check (Virus Detection and Security Scan)

http://security.syma...WelcomePage.asp


Eset Online Scanner

http://www.eset.com/onlinescan

McAfee Free Scan

http://home.mcafee.c...anDownload.aspx

Trend Micro Housecall 6.5

http://housecall.trendmicro.com/uk

Edit: Trend Micro Housecall 6.5 has been replaced by version 7.1, this does not function on 9X.  

Edited by lightning slinger, 18 May 2010 - 01:42 PM.





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