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@loblo - my apologies - obviously I was wrong about sensors under the (eg) CPU?

edit - Using Motherboard Monitor 5 on my PC-Chips - it has Case and CPU Temps showing - the BIOS also shows these (and additionally System Temp).
edit2 - looks like it depends on the hardware - newer CPU's apparently built in. (Older need the MoBo sensor.)
edit3 - CPUID HW Monitor Supported HW (v1.19)
edit4 - odd... Case+CPU+System all display (as Temp0+1+2), the HDD's display, but the nVidia GeForce MX400 doesn't show (even though supposed to support nVidia)
P.S. and this is on 2K3, NOT W98, so pay attention to versions (maybe?)...
edit 4 - RivaTuner (latest not for W98 according to site - v2.24c)
edit 5 - RivaTuner v2.24 nLite Add-On (appears to be that version)
edit 6 - RivaTuner Tutorial
Nope, Monitoring but no Temps - This

Not all cards come with hardware monitoring.

The Hardware must support it regardless (sensors)!

Edited by submix8c, 13 May 2012 - 07:17 PM.

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Lavalys' Everest Ultimate Edition has all that and then some (i.e. GPU cooler speed), however that is a commercial application. I don't know if it's previous freeware version - the well known at the time Aida32 - has these functions or whether it can be found anywhere on the web for download.
I have no knowledge of other freeware application that encompasses all the functions required. Something relatively close but not without quirks may be the old SmartGuardian by ITE, which has been shipped on drivers' CD as utility for some motherboards. It has the nasty habit of setting itself to autorun on startup even when that option is disabled in its Settings panel.

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When I took the option on Opera to delete the private data an error message appeared every time, also the section for downloads preference, I changed this to a particular folder, however every time I downloaded anything it would always go to the default folder, that is if I ran open rather than save.
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Speedfan is freeware and Win 9x/ME is still supported. It is a program that monitors voltages, fan speeds and temperatures in computers with hardware monitor chips. SpeedFan can even access S.M.A.R.T. info and show hard disk temperatures. SpeedFan supports SCSI disks too. ...

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thank you all
try to put speedfan ..just at the moment there is some overheating of the hdd
what is the latest version of "hmonitor" is stable in the 9x?

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what is the latest version of "hmonitor" is stable in the 9x?

You CPUID's HWMonitor? v1.17 was suggested, but I'm betting that v1.19 (latest) will work. It's a "standalone" program (download the ZIP and decompress) - try it.

(note - not going to reboot for the test - just try it...).

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When I took the option on Opera to delete the private data an error message appeared every time, also the section for downloads preference, I changed this to a particular folder, however every time I downloaded anything it would always go to the default folder, that is if I ran open rather than save.

This is not an Opera hepdesk thread, if you've got issues with Opera, please open a new thread or post in the Opera thread.

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what is the latest version of "hmonitor" is stable in the 9x?

You CPUID's HWMonitor? v1.17 was suggested, but I'm betting that v1.19 (latest) will work. It's a "standalone" program (download the ZIP and decompress) - try it.

(note - not going to reboot for the test - just try it...).

Well, it was suggested because that's the latest version working with 98/ME: http://www.cpuid.com...1.17-win98.zip. Other versions don't work. :whistle:

Edited by loblo, 14 May 2012 - 09:09 AM.


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Speedfan is freeware and Win 9x/ME is still supported. It is a program that monitors voltages, fan speeds and temperatures in computers with hardware monitor chips. SpeedFan can even access S.M.A.R.T. info and show hard disk temperatures. SpeedFan supports SCSI disks too. ...

Are you saying this out of experience? On the basis of your post I downloaded speedfan again and it's business as usual with it, it recognizes no drives in my system. No IDE drive because I use the VIA IDE drivers instead of Microsoft's ones and no SATA/SCSI either as usual.

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Lavalys' Everest Ultimate Edition has all that and then some (i.e. GPU cooler speed), however that is a commercial application. I don't know if it's previous freeware version - the well known at the time Aida32 - has these functions or whether it can be found anywhere on the web for download.

Aida32, just like the Free Everest Home Edition (more or less the same software) has only some of these functions, it doesn't show my CPU internal sensor temperature data like HWMonitor does, it doesn't seem to do GPU temp or SMART either. However AIDA32/Everest Free are the best apps I know for quickly checking for possible hardware conflicts on 98/ME (under Devices/Device Resources).

Edited by loblo, 14 May 2012 - 09:32 AM.


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That's precisely why I mentioned Ultimate Edition, not the Free edition. It can do: Motherboard temp, CPU temp, GPU temp, GPU memory temp, HDD temp, CPU fan speed, GPU fan speed, CPU core voltage and probably others, depending on the sensors installed in the hardware. It's been years since I last had Aida32 on my system and that's why I said I didn't know (remember) if or which of these functions it had.
Talking about SpeedFan, I suddenly remembered the icon on the desktop and I vaguely recall having had some problems with it in the past; the version I have is 4.35, released sometime around 2008 and it doesn't recognize anything but the videocard and shows nothing at all.

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SpeedFan... (barf!) HWMonitor works fine for monitoring purposes. RivaTuner gives no additional benefit unless you want to "tweak" (and potentially destroy your Vid).

Tray for HWMonitor "Free" (?) (after noticing there is a PRO version with Tray built in) here. (have NOT tested, so your own risk...) Pro's latest version unknown on Win9x (which version?) and puts "trial" in some fields until purchased and registered.

Edited by submix8c, 14 May 2012 - 10:36 AM.

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This is not an Opera hepdesk thread, if you've got issues with Opera, please open a new thread or post in the Opera thread.


So we are limited to mentioning a particular piece of software are we, it's not that the version of Opera I am talking about isn't supported or anything.

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This is not an Opera hepdesk thread, if you've got issues with Opera, please open a new thread or post in the Opera thread.

So we are limited to mentioning a particular piece of software are we, it's not that the version of Opera I am talking about isn't supported or anything. :whistle:

Ahem.... "Last Versions of Software for Windows 98SE", i.e. that which works, not that which has problems... Once "fixed", then post it here. The only reason the Monitor SW is mentioned is for that which worked/didn't work and +/- of each, not to "help fix why don't work".

Per "Opera", you've posted in two Flash Player topics, here (KernelEx), and other sundry places about Opera.

I think this particular thread is getting cluttered, nonetheless...

PLEASE stop beating topics up... and PLEASE use the "EDIT" button rather than posting, posting, posting... (sheesh!)

HERE is the way you should have gone about this - start a Topic named "Opera, and problems I have with Flash, KernelEx, and Sundry" and stick to it... Now you're "personalized"... ;)

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SpeedFan... (barf!) HWMonitor works fine for monitoring purposes. RivaTuner gives no additional benefit unless you want to "tweak" (and potentially destroy your Vid).

Yeah I agree Riva Tuner is a potentially dangerous software but it seems you've missed the harmless, fancy and useful real time monitoring graphs of everything GPU it does... ;)

Edited by loblo, 14 May 2012 - 02:26 PM.


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That's precisely why I mentioned Ultimate Edition, not the Free edition. It can do: Motherboard temp, CPU temp, GPU temp, GPU memory temp, HDD temp, CPU fan speed, GPU fan speed, CPU core voltage and probably others, depending on the sensors installed in the hardware. It's been years since I last had Aida32 on my system and that's why I said I didn't know (remember) if or which of these functions it had.

Well I have just downloaded the successor of Everest Ultimate Edition which is no more, Aida64 Extreme Edition v2.30.1900 which appears to run OK but unfortunately it doesn't show much more than the free year 2004/2005 Aida32/Everest Home Edition: I only have GPU fan percentage load that is new under sensors but no GPU or HD temps, both of which I can see with Riva Tuner (for GPU) or Victoria (for HDD). :}

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Dunno about Aida64, I've got an old version of Everest here (4.20 something). File > Preferences > Hardware monitoring > Sensor icons --> check all of them. And.. here we are:
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Speedfan is freeware and Win 9x/ME is still supported. It is a program that monitors voltages, fan speeds and temperatures in computers with hardware monitor chips. SpeedFan can even access S.M.A.R.T. info and show hard disk temperatures. SpeedFan supports SCSI disks too. ...

Are you saying this out of experience? On the basis of your post I downloaded speedfan again and it's business as usual with it, it recognizes no drives in my system. No IDE drive because I use the VIA IDE drivers instead of Microsoft's ones and no SATA/SCSI either as usual.


Hallo loblo,


yes out of experience. Nothing is perfect also Speedfan and HWMonitor. Speedfan 4.46 works on my current  ME machines. Indeed it doesn't detect the hard disk at the VIA 6410 IDE RAID Controller of a MSI MS-7058 ( i915 chipset ) Board. My current machines are: 1. Asus P4 P800 VM (i865G) NV 5900XT Pata HardDisk  // 2. MSI MS-7058 - 915P Combo (ICH6 / VIA 6410  IDE RAID Controller ) NV7600GT PATA HD //  3.  AsRock M266A R3.0 ( VIA P4M266A )  NV 5900XT PATA HD  //  4. MSI MS-7592 ( G41) NV7800GT SATA HD .... .

Edited by schwups, 15 May 2012 - 07:55 AM.


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I've just installed Adobe Flash Player version 9r280. Youtube has some problems in displaying buttons like the "change quality" one (480p, HD, etc.). Not a big deal but can anyone confirm this or suggest me another FP version? Thanks.

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Edited by 255, 07 June 2012 - 04:20 PM.


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9.0.47 seems to work best with Youtube.

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Edited by 255, 07 June 2012 - 02:24 PM.


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@255:

I'm really surprised that 9.0.47 isn't working for you. I also use Opera - it's always been my favourite browser and I'm using the latest version 11.64 with Kernelex - and as I said in my last post Youtube works very well. Obviously there are many permutations and combinations of software on people's systems......................

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It does work, just it doesn't display the lower buttons:
pause, volume (the red volume bar does work but the volume icon doesn't), change quality, etc.
Current and total time does work though. Skipping to a given minute also does work. So youtube it's actually usable, but I would like to see those icons ^^

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