[frogman]

Can I also just quickly ask if anyone happens to know if Yahoo Pool can be played on Opera 11.64 on Windows 98? I won't bother running Opera if Java don't work you see.

Oh, and if this version of Opera isn't being installed as we normally do, if we want it removed do we just delete the folders being that it doesn't show up in the add/remove progs list?

[frogman]

loblo, on 12 May 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

Also be aware that if you've got another version of opera somewhere else in a folder named opera they will both share the same settings, history etc... I f you want to have separate settings for different versions of Opera, make sure they are in folders that have different names as Opera will use, or create if none exist, a folder of the same name as the one containing the Opera.exe under C:\Windows\Application Data\Opera.

If you've got Opera in a folder named Opera, its settings will be stored in C:\Windows\Application Data\Opera

If you've got Opera in a folder named Opera 11.64, its settings will be stored in C:\Windows\Application Data\Opera 11.64

And so on.

I have installed Opera 11.64 and as you quite rightly say as I had it in a folder called Opera a folder also exists in C:\Windows\Application Data\Opera

Now, I also want to install the version of Opera 10.10, this time the install file is called 10.10_Opera_1010_classic_Setup, and of course if I double click this file it will install by itself, so should I perform the same as I did for the 11.64 version, but this time making sure I have extracted first all the files to a folder called Opera 10.10, so that the settings will go to C:\Windows\Application Data\Opera 10.10, or as I am not too bothered about both sharing the same settings shall I just install the earlier version of Opera 10.10 and let it install by itself?

Or will it be easier to put the setup file of 10.10 into a folder first and name it Opera 10.10, then go to the exe file and run it from within that folder? am I right that by doing this it will also put the settings to C:\Windows\Application Data\Opera 10.10 ?

This post has been edited by frogman: 12 May 2012 - 07:28 PM

[frogman]

Am I correct in thinking that for the Opera 10.10 the settings all go to the program files folder and for instance the preferences would go to C:\PROGRAM FILES\OPERA_10.10\profile\operaprefs.ini which is different to where they go for the 11.64 version as the preferences went into C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Opera\OPERA\operaprefs.ini

[frogman]

Does this look okay for both versions of Opera?

First is the 11.64 version.

Paths
Preferences
C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Opera\OPERA\operaprefs.ini
Saved session
C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Opera\OPERA\sessions\autopera.win
Bookmarks
C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Opera\OPERA\bookmarks.adr
Opera directory
C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Opera\OPERA
Cache
C:\WINDOWS\Local Settings\Application Data\Opera\OPERA\cache
Help documents
C:\WINDOWS\Local Settings\Application Data\Opera\OPERA\opcache
Mail directory
C:\WINDOWS\Local Settings\Application Data\Opera\OPERA\mail
Plug-in path
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OPERA\program\plugins
C:\Program Files\Opera_10.10\Program\Plugins
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins
C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player
User CSS directory
C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Opera\OPERA\styles\user

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And the 10.10 version.

Paths
Preferences
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OPERA_10.10\profile\operaprefs.ini

Saved session
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OPERA_10.10\profile\sessions\autopera.win

Bookmarks
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OPERA_10.10\profile\bookmarks.adr

Opera directory
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OPERA_10.10\profile

Cache
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OPERA_10.10\profile\cache

Help documents
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OPERA_10.10\profile\opcache

Mail directory
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OPERA_10.10\profile\mail

Plug-in path
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OPERA_10.10\program\plugins

C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\plugins

User CSS directory
C:\PROGRAM FILES\OPERA_10.10\profile\styles\user

I wasn't unaware that you all get a notification if I do an edit to my post, if you subscribe that is.

This post has been edited by frogman: 13 May 2012 - 02:02 PM

[loblo]

Looks like you've got it all allright.

[submix8c]

@frogman - GOOD GLORY!!!! Are you trying to increase your post count? Use the "EDIT" tab, PLEASE!!!!

[loblo]

I didn't dare say anything myself.

[1234567890]

sorry offtop
Who can tell what the thread program for win9x (it is desirable that hung in the tray) to display the temperature of CPU, GPU, HDD?\
it is desirable to have everything in one possible

[submix8c]

1234567890, on 13 May 2012 - 03:44 PM, said:

sorry offtop
Who can tell what the thread program for win9x (it is desirable that hung in the tray) to display the temperature of CPU, GPU, HDD?\
it is desirable to have everything in one possible

Yes, off-topic. You should have started your own/another one.

You can't get CPU unless the MoBo supports it. Never heard of a GPU or HDD. Any/all have to have "temperature sensors" to work. Installing such a program is useless without sensors. Better check your MoBo. (one of mine has them... CPU and Case Temperatures - sensors on MoBo).

[loblo]

1234567890, on 13 May 2012 - 03:44 PM, said:

sorry offtop
Who can tell what the thread program for win9x (it is desirable that hung in the tray) to display the temperature of CPU, GPU, HDD?\
it is desirable to have everything in one possible

There is no all in one program that does it all and sits in the tray unfortunately but I found that with my hardware/drivers configuration the following three program let me view almost everything

CPUID Hardware Monitor 1.17.0 (CPU/Mobo temp and voltages and CPU fan speed)
Riva Tuner 2.24 (GPU temp)
Victoria 4.46b (HDD SMART data including temperature, doesn't rely on smartvsd like many other such utilities so can view SMART for IDE drives not using esdi506.pdr like mine and SATA drives, it doesn't however work with drives I have on a Promise controller)

[submix8c]

@loblo - my apologies - obviously I was wrong about sensors under the (eg) CPU?

edit - Using Motherboard Monitor 5 on my PC-Chips - it has Case and CPU Temps showing - the BIOS also shows these (and additionally System Temp).
edit2 - looks like it depends on the hardware - newer CPU's apparently built in. (Older need the MoBo sensor.)
edit3 - CPUID HW Monitor Supported HW (v1.19)
edit4 - odd... Case+CPU+System all display (as Temp0+1+2), the HDD's display, but the nVidia GeForce MX400 doesn't show (even though supposed to support nVidia)
P.S. and this is on 2K3, NOT W98, so pay attention to versions (maybe?)...
edit 4 - RivaTuner (latest not for W98 according to site - v2.24c)
edit 5 - RivaTuner v2.24 nLite Add-On (appears to be that version)
edit 6 - RivaTuner Tutorial
Nope, Monitoring but no Temps - This

Quote

Not all cards come with hardware monitoring.

The Hardware must support it regardless (sensors)!

This post has been edited by submix8c: 13 May 2012 - 07:17 PM

[Drugwash]

Lavalys' Everest Ultimate Edition has all that and then some (i.e. GPU cooler speed), however that is a commercial application. I don't know if it's previous freeware version - the well known at the time Aida32 - has these functions or whether it can be found anywhere on the web for download.
I have no knowledge of other freeware application that encompasses all the functions required. Something relatively close but not without quirks may be the old SmartGuardian by ITE, which has been shipped on drivers' CD as utility for some motherboards. It has the nasty habit of setting itself to autorun on startup even when that option is disabled in its Settings panel.

[frogman]

When I took the option on Opera to delete the private data an error message appeared every time, also the section for downloads preference, I changed this to a particular folder, however every time I downloaded anything it would always go to the default folder, that is if I ran open rather than save.

[schwups]

Speedfan is freeware and Win 9x/ME is still supported. It is a program that monitors voltages, fan speeds and temperatures in computers with hardware monitor chips. SpeedFan can even access S.M.A.R.T. info and show hard disk temperatures. SpeedFan supports SCSI disks too. ...

[1234567890]

thank you all
try to put speedfan ..just at the moment there is some overheating of the hdd
what is the latest version of "hmonitor" is stable in the 9x?

[submix8c]

1234567890, on 14 May 2012 - 07:38 AM, said:

what is the latest version of "hmonitor" is stable in the 9x?

You CPUID's HWMonitor? v1.17 was suggested, but I'm betting that v1.19 (latest) will work. It's a "standalone" program (download the ZIP and decompress) - try it.

(note - not going to reboot for the test - just try it...).

[loblo]

frogman, on 14 May 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:

When I took the option on Opera to delete the private data an error message appeared every time, also the section for downloads preference, I changed this to a particular folder, however every time I downloaded anything it would always go to the default folder, that is if I ran open rather than save.

This is not an Opera hepdesk thread, if you've got issues with Opera, please open a new thread or post in the Opera thread.

[loblo]

submix8c, on 14 May 2012 - 08:28 AM, said:

1234567890, on 14 May 2012 - 07:38 AM, said:

what is the latest version of "hmonitor" is stable in the 9x?

You CPUID's HWMonitor? v1.17 was suggested, but I'm betting that v1.19 (latest) will work. It's a "standalone" program (download the ZIP and decompress) - try it.

(note - not going to reboot for the test - just try it...).

Well, it was suggested because that's the latest version working with 98/ME: http://www.cpuid.com...1.17-win98.zip. Other versions don't work.

This post has been edited by loblo: 14 May 2012 - 09:09 AM

[loblo]

schwups, on 14 May 2012 - 03:37 AM, said:

Speedfan is freeware and Win 9x/ME is still supported. It is a program that monitors voltages, fan speeds and temperatures in computers with hardware monitor chips. SpeedFan can even access S.M.A.R.T. info and show hard disk temperatures. SpeedFan supports SCSI disks too. ...

Are you saying this out of experience? On the basis of your post I downloaded speedfan again and it's business as usual with it, it recognizes no drives in my system. No IDE drive because I use the VIA IDE drivers instead of Microsoft's ones and no SATA/SCSI either as usual.

[loblo]

Drugwash, on 13 May 2012 - 07:56 PM, said:

Lavalys' Everest Ultimate Edition has all that and then some (i.e. GPU cooler speed), however that is a commercial application. I don't know if it's previous freeware version - the well known at the time Aida32 - has these functions or whether it can be found anywhere on the web for download.

Aida32, just like the Free Everest Home Edition (more or less the same software) has only some of these functions, it doesn't show my CPU internal sensor temperature data like HWMonitor does, it doesn't seem to do GPU temp or SMART either. However AIDA32/Everest Free are the best apps I know for quickly checking for possible hardware conflicts on 98/ME (under Devices/Device Resources).

This post has been edited by loblo: 14 May 2012 - 09:32 AM