Maleko

BSOD help

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Ok, this to me is not making any sense, and proving highly annoying...

I've been getting random BSOD's in XP, some are the IRQL not less than or equal too error, soem are just blank BSOD etc etc.

So, took my pc into work with me today and to tests on it all day, leaving them runnign etc.

I did mem tests, cpu stress tests, grapphic test, using programs like, orthos, memtest86, 3dmark, pcmark.

leaving some of them running a few hours.

NO errors, NO BSOD...

just went to load up a game, and just after the EA logo...BSOD...

im totally lost...is it just my OS thats gone cok up? As there is no consistancy to them.

I can run a game for hours and not have a problem...sometimes a BSOD can occur when my pc is doing nothing, or just playing music...SO random.

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1. We need to know what the error said exactly.

2. Check your event viewer for errors.

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I dunno, because the BSODs you're talking about, except for the blank ones, sound like when the processor OC isn't stable, but Orthos and 3D Mark passed! :unsure::}

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I had the "IRQL not less than or equal too error" a little while ago it starrted out with VPU crashes in games and eventualy progressed

to getting the IRQL not less than or equal too error every time my video drivers were loaded during boot-up. I don't know if this could be your

problem but mine was my power supply.

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I don't know if this could be your problem but mine was my power supply.

That is my first guess too. Maleko, can you try with a different PSU?

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You can try this (does'nt hurt!)

Go in Bios settings:

- PCI Latency timer [set this at 32]

- Spread Spectrum [Disable this]

Both of these can cause weird stability issues on any PC.

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Sounds like the video driver settings or the video driver itself is corrupted.

Especially if you get a BSOD on launch.

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IRQL not less than or equal errors usually mean a driver on your system executed a command at an invalid IRQL level, or, caused a pageable operation at an IRQL of 2 (DPC Dispatch) or higher. These are ENTIRELY driver errors unless you've got a bum overclocked CPU or bad RAM (which you seem to have already checked) - at this point, I'd check all of the drivers on your machine (video, audio, network, antivirus, firewall, antispyware, whatever else you have installed that has kernel-mode drivers) and make sure you're running the latest versions of the vendor's product/drivers, and that they're WHQL certified (for hardware drivers) if at all possible.

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I don't know if this could be your problem but mine was my power supply.

That is my first guess too. Maleko, can you try with a different PSU?

cheers for the replies guys!

well, i did a system format, as i needed to do one anyway, and used my original XP CD (not using my nlite cd) to re-install.

All seems fine, except i had a bsod when loading some programs, i was loading about 6 apps at once, so may have been be rushing :P

then had one from my display driver nv4_disp.dll bsod when chaging settings in a game.

although random bsod's dont seem to be happening, only have happened when i was doing something this time.

now, i have been curious if my psu was powerful enough now, 500w antec truepower powering:

8800GTS, Opeteron 175, x3 hard drives, x2 rom drives, floppy drive, 4 case fans and lots of usb devices.

so maybe that is an option, unfortunately i cant test another psu, id have to buy one.

all my drivers are WHQL, and all latest.

oh, and nothing is overclcoked now, took it all back to stock.

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Ahhhh!

Ok, update:

Formatted a few weeks ago, was all good, seemed stable.

Then a few BSOD's in games...

Now they have gotten regular again, random as before, can be BSOD in game, in a movie, in a screensaver...or when its just web browsing, or doing nothing.

They can be with graphics card drivers, USB drivers, or other system files....some are blank errors.

Tonight was watching LOST in itunes....about 4/5 BSOD's during it.

anyway, going to buy a new PSU on monday, 750W (from a 500W).

Will also try memtest again over night tonight.

Any other input or advice?

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can you list all of your hardware? and im assumming that you have the latest drivers?

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Hardware:

Asus A8N SLI Premium

Opteron Dual Core 175

2GB PC4000 Ballistixs

8800GTS 320MB

Audigy 2 Platinum ex

USB2 PCi Expanstion card

x2 Sata hard drives 80GB in Raid0

1 Sata hard drive 200GB

X2 DVD Roms (one writer one stands dvd reader)

Antec All In One Front panel USB and LCD fan controller

Cold Cathode Light

X4 80MM Case Fans

Floppy Drive

500W PSU (over a year old)

Yep, all latest drivers, like to always keep them up-to-date.

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well im not sure what the problem is then. i have only had this problem with a bad driver or overheating.

try running memtest and orthos(watch you temps for othos)

you should test the stability of your hardware, something could be bad.

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I ran memtest over night last night, 8 hours solid, no problems.

have run orthos before, took it to work so ran it for a few hours, no probs...

liek today, not one BSOD, and ive been playing COD4, yet last night i had loads watching LOST in itunes...:S

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ah, the mysteries of computers. i hate it when its impossible to get the error to pop up again.

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Change or reseat the ATA cables. Test your HDD(s).

I’m, almost sure it’s not your PSU like other state above.

If that doesn’t help, a big chance your mobo or VGA card is on it’s way out...

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i'll reseat the ata cables, but i have already tested the harddrives, both come bk fine.

cant be gfx, as did it before i upgraded my card, mobo - could be.

Im going to buy a new PSU anyway, as ill need one for my upgrade next year i feel.

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I think the basics are being overlooked, it's obvious you're having a hardware generate problem. Wasting your time with drivers isn't going to solve hardware issues.

There's somethings which you've obviously eliminated due to some of the simple testing you've done.

In my opinion, the problem is NOT your motherboard, processor or memory. I find it unlikely that it would be your power supply due to the fact that your computer will not consistently BSOD during situations where your power draw would be at it's maximum and will when power draw is low.

This leaves possible areas. Video Card, Hard Drive or Optical Drive.

And before anyone says it's impossible that the optical drive and/or it's cable could be responsible, it IS possible if the data gets corrupted as it's copied/read from the optical drive. Although, again, due to the fact that you're able to install windows without any issues, I'm also thinking it's unlikely.

I did notice that you're running your system drive in RAID 0. Unless you have a dedicated hardware RAID card, you would have no way of knowning if one of your drives was failing since software RAID (yes, chipset RAID is still software based RAID) do not habitually read SMART data.

If this was my system, what I would do to diagnose the situation, I would try the following in the following order:

1) Delete the RAID array and install a fresh copy of Windows on a single drive.

2) If still unstable, I'd try either running with on-board video or another video card.

And go from there...

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Well, as i was going to buy a new PSU anyway, i did and just fitted it - ahve now remembered how much i hate fitting new PSU's and yes how important cable management is, but also how annoying! lol

anyway, time will tell if this has any effect on it, but if it doesnt fix it i know my next step will be hard drives, cheers jcarle

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Ok..this was fine up until today...i had no problems since my last post until tonight.

watching a film, bam, bsod, no file or message, just bsod.

rebooted, finsihed film, loaded up COD4, got in game, 20 secs, bam, gone again, this time kmixer.sys

rebooted, then rebooted again to be on safe side.

loaded COD4 again...same, bam, bsod, this time with BAD_POOL_CALLER

How random can u get?

goign to run memtest again, but that never picked sommit up before, so doubt it will this time.

onyl other option will be to delete my raid, rebuild it, and re-install?

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ok, different approach...

didnt tihnk of this b4, so giving it a shot, i flashed my bios to a beta bios ages ago, and have just read of problems with it, so ive flashed it back to the last stable release...see wat happens

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bah, didnt make a difference, lol

I've reverted back to my CD version of my SATA Raid drivers, possibility/..

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I have you run in depth tests on your hard drives?

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