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#121 User is offline   retro99 

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Posted 22 December 2010 - 12:17 AM

Creative Ectiva 5.1 PCI sound card (white box, cheap, sold in Japan and Asia and uses WDM driver model) is fully supported in Windows 98SE/Me. May stutter when playing back WMA files while performing processor-intensive tasks, but it also does this in 2k/XP.

Canon CanoScan LiDE 25 USB scanner is fully supported in Windows 98SE/Me. Works perfectly.

Fuji Xerox DocuPrint 203A laser printer is fully supported in Windows 98/Me.

BAFO Sil3512 (Silicon Image chip) SATA-I PCI card. Can hook up to two SATA drives. Has its own BIOS which is easily flashed. Works perfectly with 98SE/Me.

Shuttle AN35N-400 nForce 2 motherboard supports Windows 98SE/Me, however, it is unstable using nVidia's IDE driver on standard IDE hard drive. A workaround I've tested a few times confirms (for me) that it is perfectly stable in Win9x when using a SATA hard drive on the Sil3x12 SATA add-on card and not installing the nVidia IDE drivers.

IMHO, my previous ATI Radeon 9600XT 256MB AGP 8x card was less stable than nVidia GeForce4 MX440 64MB with AGP8x I am currently using. That said, the capacitors on the ATI card were bulging and leaking, so if that had been going on for a long time, that could have been the problem all along.

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Posted 22 December 2010 - 09:12 AM

View PostSAE140, on 04 November 2010 - 10:17 AM, said:

View Postfrogman, on 31 October 2010 - 03:59 PM, said:

Why would this be needed as the drive is enclosed and I wouldn't have thought that dust would be able to get into the lens.

A Google for "clean DVD lens" returns 1,380,000 results. I wonder if you could be wrong ?


You have got to remember that there are also DVD stand alone players/recorders, and as apossed to the internal DVD computer lens I still say there is less chance of cleaning being required

Just because there are loads of hits doesn't really mean to say that these products actually do any good, in fact some people think they can damage the lens.

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 12:37 AM

View Postfrogman, on 31 October 2010 - 03:59 PM, said:

Why would this be needed as the drive is enclosed and I wouldn't have thought that dust would be able to get into the lens.

A Google for "clean DVD lens" returns 1,380,000 results. I wonder if you could be wrong ?

You have got to remember that there are also DVD stand alone players/recorders, and as apossed to the internal DVD computer lens I still say there is less chance of cleaning being required

Just because there are loads of hits doesn't really mean to say that these products actually do any good, in fact some people think they can damage the lens.


You'd think that, but the drive isn't sealed airtight, so after years the dust will build up and circulate around inside the drive, eventually reaching the lens.

A quality lens-cleaning CD won't scratch the lens; the tiny brushes are super soft. Only buy one if you value the drive and don't mind gambling ten bucks. There's a very small chance it'll work.

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 01:21 PM

You can add CH Products Combatstick, FighterStick, Pro Throttle, and Pro Pedals (all USB) devices to the list. I still have mine and have been using them since 1999. The Control Manager driver (downloaded from the Tech Support page on the CH Products website) is designed to work with all versions of Windows back to and including Windows 98. For Win98, the software is installed with all CH Products devices disconnected...reboot...then plug each device into a USB port and they will be recognized. Using WinXP and above, the software is installed after connecting all devices.

In addition, a good resource for tweaks and setup is the CH Hanger forums website.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:32 AM

Today, I came upon the Epson Stylus C88+ printer from Epson's current lineup. I checked the specs and whaddya know? It officially supports Windows 98SE/ME at this day and age! An active lineup printer no less! Unfortunately for me, it is a consumer level inkjet printer, which is not much of an improvement over my Epson Stylus Color 740 that I still own from 11 years ago.

Epson's website is out of stock, so it looks like the C88+ might be dropped out of the lineup very soon. The printer is still widely available. I should probably snap one up since the 740's ink cartridges are selling for very high prices. Two and a half of those and I have a brand spanking new C88+ complete with ink. This is probably one of the last modern printers to support 98SE/ME, if not the only one left.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 08:21 AM

Certainly not FULL compatibility by any means, however I spotted a lone Windows 98 program/driver for the MSI NF725GM-P43 called AMD Cool and Quiet Driver.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 04:07 AM

BCMCOM BC875PLG(-LF) works near perfectly with Win98SE, with the exception of onboard SATA in certain configurations.

http://www.bcmcom.co...vel2=&asd=%5E54

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 03:18 PM

View PostTmEE, on 07 October 2011 - 04:07 AM, said:

BCMCOM BC875PLG(-LF) works near perfectly with Win98SE, with the exception of onboard SATA in certain configurations.

http://www.bcmcom.co...vel2=&asd=%5E54

Then my SATA Patch should bring it to perfection.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 03:33 AM

Fujifilm digital camera A170, but not with the supplied version of FinePix software, you need to find an earlier version such as 5.3.10E (eg. for S6500fd) for W98-compatibity (the supplied USB driver is OK, but seems useless without that cumbersome software). Note, these cameras use the PTP/MTP interface, not mass storage, so you're basically forced to use their drivers and software.

Panasonic Lumix digital camera DMC-LS80. (Uses mass storage interface, so standard file access works fine.)

Joe.

[Edit: Corrected some details about the A170 driver.]

This post has been edited by jds: 26 March 2012 - 05:05 AM


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Posted 09 November 2011 - 06:04 AM

I had one Silicon Image SIL3114 4x SATA RAID card and it always caused stack overflow when driver got installed in win98se. I tried different BIOSes but nothing helped but I did manage to find a fix for that at cost of no SATA seen in DOS which is disconnecting !CE line of the flash on the card and tying it to 3.3V. Boot is faster, no SATA in DOS, and no stack overflow error in windows, no shutdown problems and drives show up nicely in windows with no performance problems ^^

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:52 AM

Printer:
Canon - Bj-200e

Windows ME has built in support. All you have to do is plug it in, you don't have to search the net for drivers. :)

This post has been edited by ScrewUpgrading: 17 December 2011 - 12:53 AM


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Posted 28 September 2012 - 01:53 AM

Please, anyone note:

There is no proof, nor any hint, that any Intel chipset of the x900xx Series can be used with W98SE, or, probably, any W9x/ME, except for the x915xx.

There is no such driver to be found.

The only one person stating this is the starter of this thread (no offense, galahs, forgive me).

There is virtually no other location on the internet than this thread on MSFN that makes this statement.

Regards,

Ragnar G.D.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:11 AM

View Postragnargd, on 28 September 2012 - 01:53 AM, said:

Please, anyone note:

There is no proof, nor any hint, that any Intel chipset of the x900xx Series can be used with W98SE, or, probably, any W9x/ME, except for the x915xx.

There is no such driver to be found.

The only one person stating this is the starter of this thread (no offense, galahs, forgive me).

There is virtually no other location on the internet than this thread on MSFN that makes this statement.

Regards,

Ragnar G.D.


Hallo ragnargd,


xrayer's driver supports ICH7 chipsets 945/946/975/955/31/41. He added driver for ICH10 chipsets, but it can be that the driver doesn't work correctly. I've tested successfully the driver for G31, G41, i945. The intel onboard graphics and sound aren't supported by the driver.  

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 06:14 AM

Hi, here comes another:

i want to add a passivly cooled card to my next W98SE box.
Because of compatibility with XP and W7, i want to stick to Geforce 6xxxx YZ with 256MB, and the 77.72 driver.
My other card, a Geforce 6600 APG 256MB runs very well, but, well, faster is always better.
I'd like to get something faster, still, but the only suitable model is a Geforce 6600 GT 256MB...
... PCI-E ...
(i know of four models that have this combo: GV-RX80L256V, GV-NX66T256DE, NX6600GT-TD256EZ, and 90-C1VGH0-HUAYZ. Some of them pop up now and then on ebay)
As i have suitable motherboards to choose from, no roblem with PCI-E. But as i'd have to buy that card via ebay, i'd like to make sure i don't do something stupid.
But, after reading through the many threads on GPUs, i'm even more confused than before:
Does this PCI-E-card work with the 77.72 driver? (It would be "Not OOB, but unpack, and choose manually... but, i'm not sure if that is a suggestion, or a tried and true method).

Ragnar G.D.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 09:49 PM

@ ragnarGD

I'm not an expert on anything and I'm not a gamer either,
but for what it's worth, here is some information from someone
who is using a Nvidia 6600 PCI-e video card in Windows 98SE.

There is no reference to any PCI Express cards in the nvagp.inf for the
official 77.72 driver for Windows 98SE. However the driver does
support the chip on the card. So it's a matter of inducing Windows
to load the driver anyway. Just pointing Windows to the driver files
is not enough. It will copy the files but refuse to load them -- usually.
If you are persistent, Windows will eventually display the message:

"The driver you are trying to install was not written specifically for your
hardware. Do you want to install it anyway?"

If you say yes at this point, Windows will copy the files, offer to reboot and
then load the drivers. The first time I attemped this, it took me 2 hours to induce
the message! Later I learned how to modify the inf file, so the driver installed
normally.

I added the following line to the section [Mfg]

%NVIDIA&DEV_0141.DeviceDesc% = NV30, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0141

I added the following line to the section [Strings]

NVIDIA&DEV_0141.DeviceDesc="NVIDIA GeForce 6600 PCI-Express 16X"

After that all I had to do was click the Setup file in the 77.72 folder.

For me this PCI-e card gives me all I need for 2d and 3d display in 98, 2K and Linux.
Occasionally when booting into Windows 98, I will get a distorted display, but it's
quickly corrected with a change in color depth. After that there are no other issues.
Sfor has complained about frequent display distortions in DOS applications and
utilities. I have not seen this on my box. If you have DOS games, it could be a problem.

I have also used a 6800 GT card in this box. It was even more stable than the 6600 card
as far as screen distortion is concerned. However, I had other issues with it. The program
VLC would not run properly if 'Use hardware YUV-RGB conversions' was checked in preferences.
An analog WINTV card also displayed video as if no driver were installed. The game 'TuxRacer'
did not run correctly and 'Abe's Amazing Adventure' would not start at all. 3D Pinball ran O.K.
That card was a powered card. I don't know if that made a difference in either case. The problems
disappeared after I switched to the 6600.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:27 AM

It appears that Hitachi and possibly others are selling some 2TB, and possibly smaller, USB Hard Drives using 4KB Logical Sectors. These Drives are incompatable with Windows 9X without Patching.
I just purchased a Touro Desk 2TB USB 3.0 Drive on Black Friday that did this. Previously I had only seen this done on USB Drives larger than 2TiB. My Patched System supports these Drives but others don't.
If more Drives come out using 4KB Logical Sectors, Windows 9X users will have fewer options for large USB Drives.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 03:58 AM

Currently, Western Digital's entire line of Green drives are 4KB sectors. Previously, within the Green series, only the larger capacities were 4KB. The transition is beginning to accelerate.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 01:29 PM

View PostFoxbat, on 29 November 2012 - 03:58 AM, said:

Currently, Western Digital's entire line of Green drives are 4KB sectors. Previously, within the Green series, only the larger capacities were 4KB. The transition is beginning to accelerate.

You are referring to "Advanced Format" Drive that have 4KB Physical Sectors. Advanced Format Drives require special Formatting to avoid performance problems, but they are compatable with Windows 9x with the 137GB Fix. I am referring to 4KB Logical Sector Drives which are not compatable without my Terabyte Plus Patches. Currently only certain USB Hard Drives use 4KB Logical Sectors.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:20 AM

Dynamode usb sound 7 usb sound card fully compatable with 98SE & ME. Works like a charm :)

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 04:19 PM

3Com 3CRPAG175B

This is a Wifi PC/Cardbus card with the XJack pop out antenna, which is quite nice for older laptops without built in WiFi:

Posted Image

This card sometimes turns up quite cheaply on Ebay, especially if poorly described :), but please don't pay $$$$ for it on the expectation that it will definitely work. If anyone else has it working or not after following these directions it may be helpful to follow up on this post.

Had a struggle getting it working on ME as the drivers seemed to have a .sys file for Win9x missing, in the end I guessed that the XP one was designed to work on 9x too but the .inf file hadn't been updated to reflect this.

So I got it working by creating a duplicate .sys file with the name referred to in the .inf file. I then found it wouldn't work with all versions of the 3Com wireless utility, but found one that's suitable. Tested on WinME but I expect it should work on Win98SE too.

The following files all need a Google account to download them, if anyone would like to mirror them please feel free. The first file is just the drivers, the second the Wireless Utility to go with them, the third file is a compilation of all the different Win9X and XP files I found for this card by trawling the web, in case it helps anyone.

3com_3crpag175b_drv1.1.0.21 Drivers only, renamed for Win9xME.zip 502KB:

https://docs.google....dit?usp=sharing

http://tinyurl.com/cyj82n6/preview

OfficeConnect_Wireless_11G_Xja_v.3.3.0.156_3crxjk10075_WW_24Dec2004.exe 2.80MB:

https://docs.google....dit?usp=sharing

http://tinyurl.com/asls4zq/preview

3Com 3CR175 3CR175b drivers and utilities pack.zip 42.4MB

https://docs.google....dit?usp=sharing

http://tinyurl.com/agf5aye/preview

There's also a 3CRPAG175 version (no 'B') which I haven't tried but the above zip file containing some drivers which appear to include Win9x, so it might be worth a go. If someone does try it please post how it goes. :)

cheers, Pete.

This post has been edited by smileypete: 10 April 2013 - 04:26 PM


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