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I had a weird experience a few days ago, I created a XP CD with nlite and intgrated the latest intel SATA AHCI drivers (text mode) The CD works perfectly on a ACER 5732Z and Compaq CQ61 in AHCI mode, but on a Samsung R519 the XP CD fails with AHCI enabled. The drivers load and when it says Starting Windows the unit restarts and cant boot from the hard drive (I removed Windows 7) I tried a few times and also changed the BIOS to legacy / IDE but still not working. With a XP cd with no AHCI drivers integrated XP setup works flawlessly.

Does anyone have any ideas?

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Edited by JenniferArden, 03 November 2010 - 01:14 AM.

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Hello Jen,

the RST drivers are more sensitive concerning the integration of the correct SATA Controller than the MSM drivers.
Which special Southbridge (ICH chip) does your Samsung R519 have and which Controller did you choose while integrating the Intel SATA AHCI driver?

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My current system:
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Hi Fernando thank you for replying, The Samsung laptop has an Intel 82801IM-ICH9M South Bridge chip, I used the Intel RST textmode driver AHCI v9.6.0.1014 WHQL 32bit with Nlite, in Nlite I selected all the text mode chipset models / drivers for integration.
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I used the Intel RST textmode driver AHCI v9.6.0.1014 WHQL 32bit with Nlite, in Nlite I selected all the text mode chipset models / drivers for integration.

You can do that with an Intel MSM driver, but not with an Intel RST driver. If you need the XP CD for a system with enabled AHCI mode, it is better, when you don't check any of the listed Intel SATA RAID Controllers. The safest option for RST drivers is to check just the specific Intel SATA AHCI Controller of your system.
So here is my advice:
  • If you are going to create a Windows XP CD with integrated Intel textmode driver, which shall support Intel RAID and AHCI configurations and be usable with different computers/notebooks, you should integrate an Intel MSM driver.
  • The Intel RST driver is the best choice, if you need a Windows XP CD for just 1 single computer/notebook with an Intel Southbridge running in AHCI or RAID mode, but you should check the specific Intel SATA AHCI resp. RAID Controller while doing the integration.
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ASUS P8Z68-V | Intel Core i5 2500K | 2x4 GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 | 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD as RAID0 in SATA3 mode | Seasonic M12II-520 Modular 520W | ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB GDDR5
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Hi Fernando, thank you very much for your advice, I will follow your advice, can you please tell met what RST and MSM means? Can you tell me where to download latest RST and MSM drivers for Intel and AMD? Does Nvidia or ATI also produce AHCI chips? I think I saw something about them also making AHCI chips. I would like to create an XP CD that will work on most PC's and laptop models.

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can you please tell met what RST and MSM means?

Intel has developed 2 different technologies regarding the management of their SATA Controller chips. The first technology was named "Intel® Matrix Storage Manager" (=MSM), the newer one is named "Intel® Rapid Storage Technology" (=RST).
All Intel MSM and RST drivers have the same name (IASTOR.SYS) and can be used with all actual Intel AHCI and RAID systems, but their effect is quite different, especially when being used with SSD's.

Can you tell me where to download latest RST and MSM drivers for Intel and AMD?

You will find Intel's latest MSM driver and Intel's latest official RST drivers within the start post of this thread. Since the technologies MSM and RST are trademarks registered by Intel, you will not find any MSM or RST drivers developed or published by AMD.

Does Nvidia or ATI also produce AHCI chips?

Yes.

I would like to create an XP CD that will work on most PC's and laptop models.

If you want to do that, you should not use nLite, but the tool named DriverPacks Base and the DriversPacks method (look >here<).

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My current system:
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Hi Fernando, thank you for your help, I really appreciate it! So if I download the latest driverpack chipset will it include all the drivers from the previous packs and the latest drivers? And I use driverpacks base to integrate them into the source files of Windows XP? I assume I should download driverpack chipset for the RST and MSM chipsets? I have an older desktop pc with VIA P4M800 Pro North Bridge and VT8237 South Bridge, will this driverpack chipset include an updated driver for it? My current driver dates back to 2001 and its causing problems with lightscribe drive. I tried to find an updated driver but was unable to find one. Is it possible to integrate both RST and MSM drivers from Intel into XP source files with Nlite? If possible can thisXP CD perhaps then work on the Samsung R519?

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Edited by JenniferArden, 04 November 2010 - 03:03 AM.

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intgrated the latest intel SATA AHCI drivers (text mode) The CD works perfectly on a ACER 5732Z and Compaq CQ61 in AHCI mode, but on a Samsung R519 the XP CD fails with AHCI enabled.


I used the Intel RST textmode driver AHCI v9.6.0.1014 WHQL 32bit

As for testing purposes there are non official 10.0.0.1046 WHQL drivers.
http://www.station-d.../intel raid.htm

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Hi cdob, thank you but isn't it best to rather use official drivers? Also that page is in French (I think) I cannot understand what hey are trying to say on that page
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So if I download the latest driverpack chipset will it include all the drivers from the previous packs and the latest drivers?

No, you won't find a driverpack, which includes all (previous and latest) drivers. Even if a driver set like the "mass storage" package offered by DriverPacks contain a lot of different AHCI and RAID drivers, there is always just 1 single driver (= SYS file) for all chipsets, which have been produced by the same manufacturer (1 driver for NIDIA chipsets, 1 driver for Intel chipsets etc.).
Nevertheless it is possible, that this single driver will work with a lot of different chipsets of the same manufacturer.

I assume I should download driverpack chipset for the RST and MSM chipsets?

You should download the tool DriverPacks BASE and the "Mass Storage" driverpack. Then you will get a Windows XP CD, which will be usable with a big variety of SATA Controllers.

I have an older desktop pc with VIA P4M800 Pro North Bridge and VT8237 South Bridge, will this driverpack chipset include an updated driver for it?

Probably yes.

Is it possible to integrate both RST and MSM drivers from Intel into XP source files with Nlite?

No, because the files have the same names and will be overwritten, if you would try to integrate them both.

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Fernando

Edited by Fernando 1, 04 November 2010 - 03:40 AM.

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Hi Fernando, thank you once again for your advice, I will try as you suggested. I will try to give feed back once I created a new XP CD and installed it on a few laptops and pc's.

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isn't it best to rather use official drivers?

Yes, that's true often.
However, does current official driver support your Samsung R519?
Suggestion was for testing purposes.

Read opinion from a DriverPacks MassStorage developer:
Post #26 http://forum.driverp...php?id=4631&p=2

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Hi cdob,

Thank you for your reply, OK now I understand better what you were trying to suggest. I do not think the official version support my R519 since the XP CD I created does not work on the R519, but should in future I think, I will wait for a future release and see if the R519's chip is supported, at least I have another XP CD without AHCI drivers that work perfectly on the R519, so its not too much of a problem luckily. Thank you again for your help.

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I do not think the official version support my R519 since the XP CD I created does not work on the R519, but should in future I think, I will wait for a future release and see if the R519's chip is supported, at least I have another XP CD without AHCI drivers that work perfectly on the R519, so its not too much of a problem luckily.

The fact, that you were able to get XP installed without having loaded (F6) or integrated any textmode driver, verifies, that the SATA Controllers of your Samsung R519 are running in IDE and not in AHCI mode.
So it seems even possible for me, that the installation of XP with integrated Intel RST textmode driver failed, because the driver was wrong (= not usable with IDE/LEGACY mode SATA Controllers). An XP CD with integrated Intel RST driver should only be used with Intel chipset systems, where the SATA hdd is running in AHCI or RAID mode. As long as the SATA Controllers have been set to "IDE" or "LEGACY" mode, you should always prefer an untouched XP CD for the installation. Any integration of a wrong (= not usable) textmode driver may cause a BSOD.
Conclusion:
It doesn't make sense for you to wait for any new official RST driver. None of the Intel RST or MSM drivers will work with your Samsung R519, unless you have set the SATA Controllers to AHCI (or RAID) mode within the mainboard BIOS prior to the XP installation.

Regards
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Edited by Fernando 1, 04 November 2010 - 07:35 AM.

My current system:
ASUS P8Z68-V | Intel Core i5 2500K | 2x4 GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 | 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD as RAID0 in SATA3 mode | Seasonic M12II-520 Modular 520W | ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB GDDR5
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I'm getting

run-time error '13'
Type mismatch



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I'm getting

run-time error '13'
Type mismatch

That is not enough information for any support.
Although you didn't post anything about what you have done, you definitively have done something wrong.

If you want help within this special thread, you should have followed my guide, which is within the start post.
I bet, that you have tried a lot of things at once while working with nLite (integrating Hotfixes, Addons etc.).

Here is my general suggestion for nLite newbies with an AHCI or RAID system:
Let nLite do nothing else than the integration of the textmode driver and the creation of the ISO file.
This way you will have the best chances to succeed with the later installation of the OS.

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My current system:
ASUS P8Z68-V | Intel Core i5 2500K | 2x4 GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 | 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD as RAID0 in SATA3 mode | Seasonic M12II-520 Modular 520W | ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB GDDR5
My old system:
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Hi all, I downloaded the driver pack drivers and integrated them using driver base but that didn't work either - got a blue screen on a desktop PC and on the Samsung R519. I decided to install the driver pack drivers with Nlite (not all of them, just the most common ones like AMD, VIA, Intel and SIS. Tested the CD on a desktop PC with SIS chip, Acer with ICH9M chip and on the Samsung R519 and all seems to be in order.

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Hi Jennifer,

I don't know why you want to create a Windows XP CD with a big variety of AHCI and RAID drivers from different chipset manufacturers, but I want to remind you, that it is strongly forbidden to use nLite for commercial purposes.
Only the private use of nLite is allowed.

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My current system:
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My old system:
DFI nF4 Ultra-D (BIOS: 2006/04/06) | AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego | 2x512 MB OCZ PC3200 CL2 Rev.2 Platinum | 2x200 GB Samsung S-ATA II as Raid0 | beQuiet!Titan BQT P5-470W-S1.3 | MSI GeForce NX6600GT-TD128E

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Hi Fernando,

The CD is for non commercial use, I do however enable the option in Nlite for the input of a "CD key / License key / Product ID" The reason I want to create such a CD is because I repair my family's and friends pc's / laptops and its too labour intensive to everytime manually install all the different drivers when installing Windows and I do not charge any money for these repairs. Credit to Dino Nuhagic for the creation of this GREAT tool!!!
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Have some good news! Decided to upgrade and got an ASUS m/b with G41 chipset (ICH7), its definitely faster than my old trusty P4, it was actually an unplanned upgrade, I only wanted to upgrade the m/b and still use the P4. Unfortunately this board seems to be incompatible with the P4 cpu so I had to fork out quite a lot of money for a new cpu as well - core2quad q8300 cpu. Guess it wil be my christmas present. XP installed flawlessly and also installed all required drivers, so everything worked by the time XP finished installing itself on my newish system. This m/b ia also DX10 ready - a nice little bonus I guess, but I use XP so its of no benefit to me lol. Will buy a new graphic card later, I have to use the onboard x4500 for now since my Nvidia GForce 5500FX doesn't fit in the new PCIex slot and also need a new SATA hard drive, but that will have to wait for another time, the upgrade cost a lot of money already. Well thats all news I have for now. Jen

Edited by JenniferArden, 28 November 2010 - 06:51 AM.

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Hello Jennifer,

it seems, that you already have celebrated Christmas.
Good luck with your new motherboard!

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My current system:
ASUS P8Z68-V | Intel Core i5 2500K | 2x4 GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 | 2x128GB Crucial M4 SSD as RAID0 in SATA3 mode | Seasonic M12II-520 Modular 520W | ATI Radeon HD6850 1 GB GDDR5
My old system:
DFI nF4 Ultra-D (BIOS: 2006/04/06) | AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego | 2x512 MB OCZ PC3200 CL2 Rev.2 Platinum | 2x200 GB Samsung S-ATA II as Raid0 | beQuiet!Titan BQT P5-470W-S1.3 | MSI GeForce NX6600GT-TD128E

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Hi Fernando :)

Thank you, it is a pleasure to work on it, its certainly not the fastest but its fast for enough for me. I can already see a very good improvement on performance in XP Pro SP3, do you think XP Pro X64 SP2 will be faster? In a month or three I will get an ASUS 512MB graphic card, I saw some at the shop where I bought the M/B. The 1GB is double the price. My previous processor lasted four years before I upgraded now. I think I will put it in my mothers pc, she has a P III 1.2GHz celeron, 1GB PC133 RAM, 8MB Trident Cyberblade onboard etc. It will be a nice improvement. I see you have a powerful system as well. What upgrades do you plan next?

Edited by JenniferArden, 28 November 2010 - 07:38 AM.

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Hi, nice How-To, it helped me a lot! I've finally done it and made my XP running on my SSD thaks to you! But now i'm confrontet with a new problem: I wanted to get acces to the Internet and to my usb-media, so i decided to install my chipset-drivers as i'm used to. So I startet these one:"INF_allOS_9.1.2.1008_PV.exe". The installation worked properly and finished with the request for a restart. I did so. But my os didn't start up again and the whole Windowsinstallation could start again. Now my SSD has finished it's installation (I'm tiping from my HDD in IDE-mode). So what to do now? Did these drivers kill my AHCI, or what happened? My Mainboard is a "EVGA X58 SLI 132-BL-E758". Thanks in advance for your help! ps.: My English is not best, I hope you don't mind..

Edited by Schmiddy, 11 December 2010 - 05:14 AM.


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it's a beautiful effort by fernando 1. :thumbup

I wanna ask how to integrate non-text mode sata ahci driver? Sometimes driver come in *.exe package.
The exe file cannot be extract in to *.ini or *.inf file. I have this experience when i was attempt to integrated ahci driver Netbook Acer Aspire One D255

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@jangdini
The driver has to be extracted. Either post the link to the driver or use the one already made by Fernando.

Edit: I just found your model on the Acer website; the AHCI driver seems to be packed in a newer version of Install Shield. However, the important thing is that its version is 8.9.4.1004, and Fernando has a newer version 9.6.0.1014. So, if you're really insisting on getting the version from Acer's website, I'll see what I can do.

Cheers

Edited by Sp0iLedBrAt, 10 December 2010 - 08:12 PM.





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