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Integration of Intel's SATA AHCI and RAID drivers Guide and help for XP and W2k3 (32/64bit) Rate Topic: -----

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 06:48 PM

@ Forsti:

Since you don't have a mixed SATA/PATA configuration, you may choose "Ja".
Before I am going to bed, I will give you a link to someone with a similar problem as you and his solution:
http://forums.pcper....ad.php?t=413517

Good luck and good night!
Fernando


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Posted 16 July 2009 - 07:43 PM

Fernando 1, thanks for all the help.

I'm on the other side. Man, windows xp installed like in 10 minutes...pretty insane. Everything worked properly. The only issue was that I wanted to remove Guest from user login and I now have to select my name in the logon screen. Where was I suppose to change that?

I'm gonna create another disc with a few things added on. I just wanted to make sure it would work. Thanks again.

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 08:08 PM

Ok, I did run into a problem.

There is a yellow question mark by SM BUS CONTROLLER.

Here's a pic of the Hardware ID. It looks the same as the Hard Drive. I only selected iaAHCI.inf for integration and I didn't integrate anything from iaStor.inf. Could that be the problem?

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I found out that I was missing intel chipset utility. Got if from dell website. Sorry to bother.

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 10:56 PM

Yet nothing helped. I tried something else now: i put the SSD into my desktop and installed via the USB stick. everything is fine, installation complete.

when i put the SSD back into the netbook, the computer doesnt start, saying "operating system not found" i guess its the same problem. i try to install all the dell drivers now via desktop and start again. maybe someone has any other idea?

i tried to "fix" the boot.ini like they guys told in the thread fernando gave me, but that did not work...

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 03:46 AM

@ majax79:

Fine, that you succeeded with the XP installation by chosing the driver and Controller I had suggested.

View Postmajax79, on Jul 17 2009, 04:08 AM, said:

Ok, I did run into a problem.
There is a yellow question mark by SM BUS CONTROLLER.
You have to install the Intel chipset (=INF) "drivers" which are managing the Intel System Management devices (SMBus Controller etc.). That is no problem at all since you got Windows XP up.
The solution is very easy: Just download and install this package. It contains the actual Intel chipset device "drivers".
After having done that, you will not see the yellow mark within the Device Manager anymore.

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I only selected iaAHCI.inf for integration and I didn't integrate anything from iaStor.inf. Could that be the problem?
No, the Intel textmode drivers (with the IASTOR files) have nothing to do with the SMBus Controller. You have done everything correctly.

By the way:
You can prevent the yellow mark within the Device Manager from scratch, if you integrate 2 different Intel drivers into the XP CD:
1. the Intel textmode driver as TEXTMODE (as you have already done)
and additionally
2. the Intel chipset "drivers" (download link: see above) as PnP drivers.
You will find the how-to details within my guide (first post of this thread).


@ Forsti:

It seems, that either the SSD has not been detected by the BIOS or that you have wrong boot settings within the BIOS of your mainboard.

This is what I suggest:
Open the mainboard BIOS and look into the "Advanced BIOS Features" section.
There you will find different Boot order settings for
1. the Boot Devices (First/Second/Third Boot Device) and
2. the Hard Disk Drives (option name is "HARD DISK BOOT PRIORITY").
Before you are going to install Windows XP onto your new SSD drive, you should make sure, that
a ) the SSD drive is listed and on the first position of the "HARD DISK PRIORITY and
b ) the USB Floppy is set as "First Boot Device" and the HDD as "Second Boot Device".


@ majax79 anf Forsti:

Good luck for both of you!
Fernando

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 04:19 AM

problem solved ! the usb installation propably never works, but the desktop-installation-and-put-the-ssd-into-the-netbook-again technic worked at the end!

thx for help!

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 05:02 AM

View PostForsti, on Jul 17 2009, 12:19 PM, said:

problem solved!
Congratulations @ Forsti, that you solved your problems at least! :thumbup
Nevertheless I do not totally agree with your thoughts regarding the cause of your issues:

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the usb installation propably never works
The installation of a Windows OS by booting off an USB port works fine (if you do it the right way).

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but the desktop-installation-and-put-the-ssd-into-the-netbook-again technic worked at the end!
I doubt, that this is the only possible explanation for your success. I still suspect, that your problems were caused by a wrong BOOT.INI entry (leads to the first error message) and a wrong HARD DISK BOOT PRIORITY order (leads to the second error message).

Have fun with Windows XP on your new SSD!
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Posted 27 July 2009 - 12:20 PM

Hi, let me start off by saying that I have a recently purchased laptop, an HP HDX16 (with vista 64 installed), so I don't know where the hdds and whatnot are connected. Additionally, my BIOS menu is so basic I have no options for RAID/AHCI or anything, which doesn't help matters

I followed your guide 3 times over, each time using the same original windows copy for nlite. However, each time I used a different set of drivers for the ICH9R, and each time I got the following error upon installation: File iaStor.sys is corrupt.

Now the copy of XP I was using for nlite was already a copy of an original installation disc, and I have no idea if it's 32/64 bit or home/professional. This is the only hiccup I could think of, is that I'm using the wrong drivers, or if I'm trying to install a 32 bit OS on a machine that doesn't support it.

Any help would be appreciated. :hello:

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 02:14 PM

I'm trying to dual boot with Vista and XP. For some reason this process doesn't work for me in both AHCI and IDE modes. It detects the drive, formats the partition, then does the setup but after the reboot it pretty much stalls. That's when I have to fix the MBR and boot and try over. I might have tried RAID mode too. The only time IDE worked was when I was doing a fresh Install of VIsta.

Could this be a problem with the BIOS or because I can't change the mode for my DVD drive?

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 04:12 PM

@ StumbleStopRepeat and holyc0w:
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@ StumleStopRepeat:
The reason for your issue definitively is the 32/64bit mixture of the OS and the integrated driver.
Solution: Either change the OS (from XP x64 to XP) or integrate the 64bit driver version.

@ holyc0w:
Since you still have access to Vista, run it and look into the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" and - if present - the "Storage Controllers" sections of the Device Manager.
Which sort of Controllers (names) do you see there?

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 06:10 PM

View PostFernando 1, on Jul 27 2009, 05:12 PM, said:

@ holyc0w:
Since you still have access to Vista, run it and look into the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" and - if present - the "Storage Controllers" sections of the Device Manager.
Which sort of Controllers (names) do you see there?


Under IDE ATA/ATAPI I have:
Intel ICH10R SATA AHCI Controller

Storage Controllers:
Microsoft iSCSI Initiator


Some more details: I'm trying to install the 64 bit version of XP with a slipstreamed SP2. The motherboard is Intel DX58SO.

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 11:06 PM

View Postholyc0w, on Jul 27 2009, 10:14 PM, said:

I'm trying to dual boot with Vista and XP. For some reason this process doesn't work for me in both AHCI and IDE modes. It detects the drive, formats the partition, then does the setup but after the reboot it pretty much stalls. That's when I have to fix the MBR and boot and try over. I might have tried RAID mode too. The only time IDE worked was when I was doing a fresh Install of VIsta.
Could this be a problem with the BIOS or because I can't change the mode for my DVD drive?
I see 2 possible reasons:
a ) more than 3 GB of RAM (solution: remove 1 stick while installing Windows XP)
b ) SATA connected DVD drive doesn't like AHCI mode (solution: borrow an IDE connected one just for the XP installation).

View Postholyc0w, on Jul 28 2009, 02:10 AM, said:

View PostFernando 1, on Jul 27 2009, 05:12 PM, said:

@ holyc0w:
Since you still have access to Vista, run it and look into the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" and - if present - the "Storage Controllers" sections of the Device Manager.
Which sort of Controllers (names) do you see there?
Under IDE ATA/ATAPI I have:
Intel ICH10R SATA AHCI Controller
So the XP installation by using a CD with integrated Intel AHCI driver should work for you.

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 11:17 PM

View PostFernando 1, on Jul 28 2009, 12:06 AM, said:

View Postholyc0w, on Jul 27 2009, 10:14 PM, said:

I'm trying to dual boot with Vista and XP. For some reason this process doesn't work for me in both AHCI and IDE modes. It detects the drive, formats the partition, then does the setup but after the reboot it pretty much stalls. That's when I have to fix the MBR and boot and try over. I might have tried RAID mode too. The only time IDE worked was when I was doing a fresh Install of VIsta.
Could this be a problem with the BIOS or because I can't change the mode for my DVD drive?
I see 2 possible reasons:
a ) more than 3 GB of RAM (solution: remove 1 stick while installing Windows XP)
b ) SATA connected DVD drive doesn't like AHCI mode (solution: borrow an IDE connected one just for the XP installation).


Would the 3GB issue be also present with 64-bit XP?

As for B, there are no IDE connectors on the motherboard. It seems weird to me that Vista installs fine under AHCI, but XP doesn't. Would you know why I can't switch from AHCI to IDE without breaking Vista?

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 11:23 PM

View Postholyc0w, on Jul 28 2009, 07:17 AM, said:

Would the 3GB issue be also present with 64-bit XP?
No, all 64bit Operating Systems don't have that problem.

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As for B, there are no IDE connectors on the motherboard. It seems weird to me that Vista installs fine under AHCI, but XP doesn't. Would you know why I can't switch from AHCI to IDE without breaking Vista?
Because Vista expects the SATA hdd at the AHCI Controller and there i none anymore after running it in IDE mode.

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 11:37 PM

Thanks for the help. Looks like I'm out of luck.

edit: Actually I have another question: why doesn't XP install using IDE mode?

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 12:18 AM

View Postholyc0w, on Jul 28 2009, 07:37 AM, said:

why doesn't XP install using IDE mode?
It should install without any problem.
What happens? Which error message do you get?

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 02:17 AM

I think it's the same issue where the computer just stops at a blank screen after the reboot when the system files are installed. Though I'm not sure, I'll try it again later to see.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 08:47 AM

View Postholyc0w, on Jul 28 2009, 10:17 AM, said:

I think it's the same issue where the computer just stops at a blank screen after the reboot when the system files are installed.
If you are not able to get Windows XP installed after having set the SATA Controllers to "IDE Mode", you probably have a hardware problem. Please check your memory sticks (and their BIOS settings inclusive voltage), the psu, the cables, the fans etc.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 05:29 PM

Looks like it does work in IDE after all

edit: OK, I tried the AHCI mode again. After it restarted after the setup it said "Press any key to boot from the CD/DVD" so I waited and then I got "error loading Operating System". That's the same message I also get for Vista when I switch from AHCI to IDE.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:57 AM

View Postholyc0w, on Jul 29 2009, 01:29 AM, said:

After it restarted after the setup it said "Press any key to boot from the CD/DVD" so I waited and then I got "error loading Operating System". That's the same message I also get for Vista when I switch from AHCI to IDE.
This message usually indicates, that the "track zero" of your boot sector has bad entries and cannot be properly be read by the system. The "zero track" will not be erased by the normal formatting of the hdd.
If I am right, you should do the following:
1. Backup all important datas of the hdd, where you are booting from, or let a tool like Acronis TrueImage save an image of your current partitions and store it somewhere outside the bootabe hdd.
2. Use a hdd diagnostic utility (you will get it from the manufacturer of the affected hdd), let it check the hdd and then do a "low level format". Alternatively you may use a tool like KillDisk (look here). This way you will get the hdd back into the native status.
Side note:
Some users reported, that they got all "track zero" issues solved after having tried to install a Linux distribution like Ubuntu.

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