[jdub]

I tried using the modified to "R" version using the from within a windows install method and it just screwed up, so I integrated it (i think thats the one I used) and it *worked* but now sometimes my external eSata drives flash in red when the jmicron chipset gets its moment in the bootup sequence. Also now sometimes HD to HD transfers go at 12 MB/sec for periods before speeding up to 50+.

Least I can hotplug Sata drive now though =/

By "R" version I mean there are 2 versions of ICH9, one that supports ®AID etc and one that doesn't, though they may or may not be physically identical. Mine supposedly supported it from the start, but after BIOS updates stopped recognizing it as the R chipset. I dont know because I havent kept up with every update to my motherboard. I hate the Asus forums. http://vip.asus.com/forum/topic.aspx?board...SLanguage=en-us

This post has been edited by jdub: 07 September 2009 - 11:58 AM

[Fernando 1]

@ jdub:

Irrespective of the ICH9 Controller details (with or without "R") the main question is, if you can turn on the "AHCI Mode" within the mainboard BIOS or not. If you can, the modified version of the Intel AHCI drivers should work fine. On the other hand you will not be able to get any Intel AHCI driver installed, if you don't have the BIOS option to run the Intel SATA Controller in "AHCI Mode".

Nevertheless I would try to check the sort of your Intel Southbridge. Please open the Device Manager and give me the DeviceID (DEV_xxxx) of the Intel SATA AHCI Controller, which usually is within the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" subdirectory. It is part of the HardwareID's you will get by doing a right click onto it > "Properties" > "Details" > "Property" > "HardwareID's".

[jdub]

I do have the AHCI option in BIOS. Intel storage manager wont install, which complicated trying to install the AHCI drivers.

As for the device manager it says "Intel ICH9R/DO/DH SATA AHCI controller.

[Fernando 1]

jdub, on Sep 7 2009, 09:04 PM, said:

I do have the AHCI option in BIOS. Intel storage manager wont install, which complicated trying to install the AHCI drivers.

What happens, when you try to install the complete Intel Matrix Storage Manager Package v8.9.0.1023?
By the way: The Intel Matrix Storage Manager Console doesn't really make sense unless you have an Intel RAID system.

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As for the device manager it says "Intel ICH9R/DO/DH SATA AHCI controller.

OK, then it is verified, that the mainboard has an Intel ICH9R Southbridge chip.
As a consequence you will be able to use the "regular" WHQL signed Intel textmode driver.

[spnmn]

Hey Fernando awsome guide but i am having problems with my vospro 1510 the chipset is Intel GM965 express. I can get the files copied for xp home but after the restart i get a bsod that says no operating system found. Also i cant seem to find the .inf file in your list in your guide. There is a G965.inf and a M965.inf but no GM965. and nlite only lets me choose one or the other. Also i dont understand the ICH8, ICH9 stuff. I cant find anything in my documentation anywhere. Please help. Thank you. spnmn

P.S. Im trying to install XP Home 32 bit on a laptop that had a factory installed Vista 64 bit. But the HD has been formatted. Does this create a conflict? Do i need the chipset drivers for vista 64 bit or for xp 32 bit? Thanks again. spnmn

This post has been edited by spnmn: 19 September 2009 - 09:31 PM

[Fernando 1]

@ spnmn:
Welcome at MSFN Forums!

spnmn, on Sep 20 2009, 04:53 AM, said:

I can get the files copied for xp home but after the restart i get a bsod that says no operating system found.

Please give me some details about the Southbridge (not the system management chipset) of your laptop and the drivers you have integrated.

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Also i cant seem to find the .inf file in your list in your guide. There is a G965.inf and a M965.inf but no GM965. and nlite only lets me choose one or the other.

You can choose any INF file and nLite will copy them all.
By the way: The INF files you have mentioned are part of the Intel chipset drivers, which are ot needed at all to get Windows XP installed.
Wht you probably need are suitable textmode drivers (AHCI or RAID) depending on the Southbridge chip, where your SATA hdd is connected.

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P.S. Im trying to install XP Home 32 bit on a laptop that had a factory installed Vista 64 bit. But the HD has been formatted. Does this create a conflict?

Usually not, unless you used a tool which broke the unvisible track 0 settings.

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Do i need the chipset drivers for vista 64 bit or for xp 32 bit?

You need to take 32bit drivers (64bit ones will not work with any 32bit OS), but you won't need any chipset driver.
I repeat: The only driver you probably have to integrate is the suitable 32bit textmode driver. The correct driver depends on your Southbridge chip and the SATA Controllers BIOS settings (SATA or RAID Mode).

This post has been edited by Fernando 1: 20 September 2009 - 04:34 AM

[spnmn]

[Please give me some details about the Southbridge (not the system management chipset) of your laptop and the drivers you have integrated.]

I dont know how to get the details since i cant access device manager and i cant find anymore info in the documentation that i have DL'd from the dell web site. And the only two options in the bios are ATA or AHCI.

Thanks again. spnmn

This post has been edited by spnmn: 21 September 2009 - 02:51 AM

[Fernando 1]

spnmn, on Sep 21 2009, 10:48 AM, said:

Fernando 1, on Sep 20 2009, said:

Please give me some details about the Southbridge (not the system management chipset) of your laptop and the drivers you have integrated.

I dont know how to get the details since i cant access device manager and i cant find anymore info in the documentation that i have DL'd from the dell web site.

This is what you have written about your system:

spnmn, on Sep 20 2009, 04:53 AM, said:

Hey Fernando awsome guide but i am having problems with my vospro 1510 the chipset is Intel GM965 express.

Dell has never produced such notebook. The correct name probably will be Vostro 1510.
As long as you don't know the vendor of the SATA Controller chip, where your hdd is connected, it is not easy to help you.

spnmn said:

And the only two options in the bios are ATA or AHCI.

If you don't succed by integrating the drivers I have linked within my guide (start post of this thread), I recommend to choose the "ATA" BIOS option. After having done that you will be able to get Windows XP installed by booting off the original (=untouched) Windows CD.

[spnmn]

OK Fernando here are my specs:

Vostro 1510
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T5870 @1.86 Ghz
Ram: 2x2 Gb kit @ 667 Mhz
Video Card: Nvidia 8400GM/256 mb
Audio:Realtek ALC268
South Bridge: Intel 82801HBM ICH8M

And thanks again in advance. spnmn

[Fernando 1]

spnmn, on Sep 21 2009, 05:51 PM, said:

OK Fernando here are my specs:
South Bridge: Intel 82801HBM ICH8M

So you will succeed, if you just follow my guide.
Some advices:
1. Don't integrate anything else than the 32bit Intel textmode driver v8.9.0.1023 (WHQL).
2. When you get the textmode driver popup, just choose the Intel® ICH8M-E/M SATA AHCI Controller.
3. If you should get any problems while installing Windows XP, yo may need to remove 1 RAM stick prior to the OS installation procedure.

Good luck!
Fernando

[E-66]

Dumb question of the day - what happens if you don't integrate the drivers, but install them after the XP installation instead?

I have a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L motherboard (ICH9). I've been installing XP temporarily on a PATA drive to test different nLite configs and AHCI has been turned off in the BIOS. I've finally got an nLite config I'm happy with and now want to tackle this AHCI issue. I turned AHCI on in the BIOS and attached a SATA storage drive (just to have one attached to the system) reinstalled XP (still on the PATA), and had an unknown PCI device showing in Device Manager (expected, obviously). I clicked on 'update driver' and used the modded 32-bit v8.9.0.1023 driver shown on the first post in this thread and everything seems fine, no issues in Device Manager. Does that mean that it 'worked' ?

I also made a new nLite install and integrated the driver (still installed XP on the PATA), and that worked too.

I guess what I want to know is... are my results relevant, or does the AHCI issue only apply when you have XP installed on a SATA drive?

[Fernando 1]

E-66, on Sep 24 2009, 02:58 PM, said:

Dumb question of the day - what happens if you don't integrate the drivers, but install them after the XP installation instead?

This only works, if you have the AHCI Mode SATA hdd outside the active hdd (with the boot sector and the OS).

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I guess what I want to know is... are my results relevant, or does the AHCI issue only apply when you have XP installed on a SATA drive?

The latter is correct (see above). You will not able to get Windows XP installed onto your SATA hdd running in AHCI Mode, unless you load (F6) or integrate the needed AHCI driver.

[ChiefZeke]

I read the instructions and figured I'd try them out. I have an ABIT IX48 GT3 motherboard with an Intel Core2 Quad Q9650 cpu and 8Gb of DDR3 RAM installed; two each WD 1Tb drives partitioned into four partitions each. On drive #2 the first partition is XP Pro w/SP3, the second has XP Pro x64 w/SP2, the third has Win7 32-bit, and the fourth has Win7 64-bit. Multi-boot works excellently and I can boot to all four operating systems with no problems.

It is my understanding Win7 has AHCI support built in and does not require anything from the user to implement it.

After following your instructions and merging the created .REG file into both XP Pro and XP Pro x64 I rebooted, went into the BIOS and changed the settings to AHCI and rebooted.

The boot screen verified AHCI was selected and I selected XP Pro from the boot menu - got a BSOD; STOP: 0x0000007B (no drive detected). Hard reboot.

Selected XP Pro x64 and it started, desktop came up and Device Manager showed AHCI drivers. Rebooted.

Selected Win7 32-bit and got same BSOD. (What happened to built in support?) Hard reboot.

Selected Win7 64-bit and got same BSOD. (What happened to built in support?) Hard reboot.

Troubleshooting commenced. Decided to compare the .REG file you proposed with what was in my XP Pro x64 registry - following is what a .REG file would look like with the information I found:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_2920]
"ClassGUID"={4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
"Service"="intelide"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_2922&cc_0106]
"ClassGUID"={4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
"Service"="iastor"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_2923&cc_0106]
"ClassGUID"={4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
"Service"="iastor"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_2926]
"ClassGUID"={4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
"Service"="intelide"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStor]
"DisplayName"="Intel AHCI Controller"
"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
"Group"="SCSI miniport"
"ImagePath"="system32\\drivers\\iaStor.sys"
"Start"=dword:00000000
"tag"=dword:00000019
"Type"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStor\Enum]
"0"="PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2922&SUBSYS_B0051458&REV_02\3&13c0b0c5&0&FA"
"1"="PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2922&SUBSYS_1107147B&REV_02\3&2411e6fe&0&FA"
"Count"=dword:00000002
"NextInstance"=dword:00000002

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStor\Parameters]
"BusType"=dword:00000003
"queuePriorityEnable"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStor\Parameters\Port0]
"AN"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000
"GTF"=dword:00000000
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATA"=dword:00000001
"LPMSTATA"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStor\Parameters\Port1]
"AN"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000
"GTF"=dword:00000000
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATA"=dword:00000001
"LPMSTATA"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStor\Parameters\Port2]
"AN"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000
"GTF"=dword:00000000
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATA"=dword:00000001
"LPMSTATA"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStor\Parameters\Port3]
"AN"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000
"GTF"=dword:00000000
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATA"=dword:00000001
"LPMSTATA"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStor\Parameters\Port4]
"AN"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000
"GTF"=dword:00000000
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATA"=dword:00000001
"LPMSTATA"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\iaStor\Parameters\Port5]
"AN"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000
"GTF"=dword:00000000
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATA"=dword:00000001
"LPMSTATA"=dword:00000000

I listed all of the above because of the hardware IDs for my system. A partial list of that list follows (note the use of _2920 and _2926 in the identifier):
============
RAID Devices
============
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&SUBSYS_F100147B&REV_02\4&2531C6B0&0&00E4
Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Hardware ID's:
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&SUBSYS_F100147B&REV_02
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&SUBSYS_F100147B
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&CC_010185
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&CC_0101
Compatible ID's:
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&REV_02
PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363
PCI\VEN_197B&CC_010185
PCI\VEN_197B&CC_0101
PCI\VEN_197B
PCI\CC_010185
PCI\CC_0101
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2920&SUBSYS_1107147B&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&FA
Name: Intel® ICH9R/DO/DH 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 1 - 2920
Hardware ID's:
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2920&SUBSYS_1107147B&REV_02
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2920&SUBSYS_1107147B
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2920&CC_01018F
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2920&CC_0101
Compatible ID's:
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2920&REV_02
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2920
PCI\VEN_8086&CC_01018F
PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0101
PCI\VEN_8086
PCI\CC_01018F
PCI\CC_0101
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2926&SUBSYS_1107147B&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&FD
Name: Intel® ICH9 Family 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller 2 - 2926
Hardware ID's:
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2926&SUBSYS_1107147B&REV_02
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2926&SUBSYS_1107147B
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2926&CC_010185
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2926&CC_0101
Compatible ID's:
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2926&REV_02
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2926
PCI\VEN_8086&CC_010185
PCI\VEN_8086&CC_0101
PCI\VEN_8086
PCI\CC_010185
PCI\CC_0101
3 matching device(s) found.

I have not yet tried this new .REG file in XP Pro and I'm not sure about trying it with Win7 either version.

Before I do try it I would like a response/opinion as to its viability.

Thanks

[cdob]

ChiefZeke, on Sep 26 2009, 11:21 PM, said:

It is my understanding Win7 has AHCI support built in and does not require anything from the user to implement it.

The user has to use AHCI mode at setup to implement built in support.

ChiefZeke, on Sep 26 2009, 11:21 PM, said:

After following your instructions and merging the created .REG file

Which settings did you import?

Does settings contain relating HardwareID?
Enable AHCI. Boot windows 7 DVD, open command line and run regedit.

Try generic Intel AHCI HardwareID pci#ven_8086&cc_0106 too. http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?s=&...st&p=845633

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Selected Win7 32-bit and got same BSOD. (What happened to built in support?)

Built in support was not enabled at setup, because there was no relating hardware.

Import at Win7

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\msahci]
"Start"=dword:00000000

[Fernando 1]

@ ChiefZeke:
This is the thread about how to integrate the Intel SATA AHCI and RAD drivers into a Windows XP CD and not a thread about how to repair different running Windows Operation Systems after having changed the BIOS settings regarding the SATA Controller from IDE to AHCI mode.

@ cdob:
Nevertheless I want to thank you for your post, which answers some of ChiefZeke's questions.

[soepkip]

Thanks for the information in this topic!

I got my ICH8 working in AHCI mode & installed the Fernando driver which works!
The Matrix Storage Manager however still won't install and I can't edit the install package..
Does anyone have a 'hacked' version of the storage manager?

I'm not tryring to create a RAID array on my non-R controller, I want to increase the speed of my SSD with write back cache etc.!



Edit:

BTW is there any way of checking if AHCI (NCQ etc.) works?

This post has been edited by soepkip: 28 September 2009 - 10:36 AM

[ChiefZeke]

Fernando 1, on Sep 27 2009, 04:27 AM, said:

@ ChiefZeke:
This is the thread about how to integrate the Intel SATA AHCI and RAD drivers into a Windows XP CD and not a thread about how to repair different running Windows Operation Systems after having changed the BIOS settings regarding the SATA Controller from IDE to AHCI mode.

You missed the point of what I was commenting on.

I was trying to integrate the SATA AHCI drivers into my XP Pro installation - that's what all the info I posted was about. I was not and am not trying to 'fix' anything

I followed your example and it did not work. Please -re-read my post. I though I was pretty clear on what I was doing.

[ChiefZeke]

cdob, on Sep 27 2009, 12:28 AM, said:

ChiefZeke, on Sep 26 2009, 11:21 PM, said:

It is my understanding Win7 has AHCI support built in and does not require anything from the user to implement it.

The user has to use AHCI mode at setup to implement built in support.

Thanks for the info - I'll have to remember that when Win7 final arrives.

[Fernando 1]

@ soepkip:
Welcome at MSFN Forums!

Fine, that you succeeded with the installation of Windows XP and that you are able to run your SATA Controller in AHCI Mode.
You are not able to get the Intel Matrix Storage Manager Console installed, because your Intel ICH8 SATA Controller is not supported by Intel's official driverpack.
By the way: You will not get much profit by using the Intel Matrix Storage Manager Console, because you are not using RAID.

soepkip, on Sep 28 2009, 06:35 PM, said:

Is there any way of checking if AHCI (NCQ etc.) works?

If your mainboard has the BIOS option to set the SATA Controller to "AHCI Mode", you can be sure to get the AHCI features after having enabled the option and successfully installed the modified Intel SATA AHCI driver. Additionally you may look into the "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers" section of the Device Manager, if the Intel® ICH8 SATA AHCI Controller is listed.

EDIT:

soepkip, on Sep 28 2009, 06:35 PM, said:

I'm not tryring to create a RAID array on my non-R controller, I want to increase the speed of my SSD with write back cache etc.!

Can't you get these settings by opening the "Properties" of your hdd within the Device Manager?

This post has been edited by Fernando 1: 28 September 2009 - 01:47 PM

[soepkip]

@Fernando_1
Thanks for your reply and your modded driver!

I'll skip the Intel MSMC then, no problem.. I have set the controller to AHCI in my BIOS and have the SATA AHCI controller listed, so that's good!

Good luck to everybody getting AHCI running on their southbridges