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#131 User is offline   skipg 

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 07:05 PM

View PostLpavel, on Apr 14 2008, 03:26 AM, said:

Unfortunately I didn't succeed in downgrading BIOS: afudos has detected that firmware 3.02 was older than my mb and refused to do that :blink:


To downgrade the BIOS, you need to use version 2.11 of AFUDOS. In addition, the BIOS for the P5KR board (which has the ICH9R chipset) can be used. The latest BIOS for the P5KR supports all the latest CPUs. See this thread for more information.


#132 User is offline   mvil 

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  Posted 20 April 2008 - 01:15 PM

I succeeded to install AHCI for my Asus P5KR Motherboard following this method, with two small modifications:

1) as this motherboard uses ICH9R, I didn't need to make the changes in the IAAHCI.INF file described in step 2.
2) for the same reason, in step 3, when creating the registry file, I've replaced 2923 by 2922.
2922 identifies the ICH9R chipset.

In the BIOS, I've set SATA mode to AHCI and "Intel Robinson Technology" as enabled.

Except for that, it works exactly like described in the first post of this thread.

Thanks Punto for your brilliant idea !! :)



PS: I'm running Windows XP 32 bits

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 09:20 PM

http://www.station-drivers.com/telechargem...rivers.com).exe
RAID Controllers:
- IntelŪ ICH8M-E/ICH9M-E SATA RAID Controller
- IntelŪ ICH8R/ICH9R/ICH10R SATA RAID Controller
- IntelŪ ESB2 SATA RAID Controller
- IntelŪ ICH7MDH SATA RAID Controller
- IntelŪ ICH7R/DH SATA RAID Controller

AHCI Controllers:
- IntelŪ ICH10R SATA AHCI Controller
- IntelŪ EP80579 SATA AHCI Controller
- IntelŪ ICH9M-E/M SATA AHCI Controller
- IntelŪ ICH9R/DO/DH SATA AHCI Controller
- IntelŪ ICH8M-E/M SATA AHCI Controller
- IntelŪ ICH8R/DH/DO SATA AHCI Controller
- IntelŪ ESB2 SATA AHCI Controller
- IntelŪ ICH7M/MDH SATA AHCI Controller
- IntelŪ ICH7R/DH SATA AHCI Controller

These are not official yet, but the good news is that the AHCI issue is apparently fixed.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 09:23 PM

intel_msm_8.8.0.39

Station driver links always break when you just paste them.. :)

Hi JakeLD.
let's make a testpack with those, and get it out soon, eh?

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 09:23 AM

Already working one my friend, should eb ready tonight, I will also update the VIA drivers 5.17a is out.

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Posted 13 May 2008 - 10:54 PM

Looks like there is a typo in the Registry File:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_2923&cc_0106]
"Service"="iaStor"
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"


Should be:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_2923&cc_0106]
"Service"="iaStor"
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"


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Posted 14 May 2008 - 04:45 AM

View Posttjanitolkaj, on May 13 2008, 11:54 PM, said:

Looks like there is a typo in the Registry File:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_2923&cc_0106]
"Service"="iaStor"
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"

Should be:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_2923&cc_0106]
"Service"="iaStor"
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"


I concur. At the time I tried it, using the original instructions, I had three control sets. After looking things over, I entered the info in by hand using the Current Control Set, and it worked after that. My goal was to be able to run OS X on a Hackint0sh; I now have OS X working, and can definitely assert that the AHCI fix does indeed work.

:rolleyes:

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 02:56 PM

Just a question. Has anyone noticed ANY increase in performance after switching to AHCI mode? Cause I tried some months ago and all I got were some annoying bios screens (of course, after enabling all the stuff) and waiting times before Windoze started booting :P

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Posted 16 May 2008 - 12:45 AM

Nerfed.

I have a ga-p35-ds3l that I just turned on the ahci and **** it caused major issues for me. CPU usage was whacked. Firefox using 50% to 90% cpu usage, explorer 40% to 60%, everything was causing major cpu usage. Wouldnt drop below 21% to 23% even with all programs shut off. The hard drive benchmark I have on this computer is Hard Drive Tach. I wish I had taken a screen shot of the results but I didnt. On the Seagate sata2 500gig ST3500630AS the cache burst was 140ish and is normally 210ish. The read speed was 55 high to 35ish low and is normally 70ish+ to 40.

Rather disappointing really.

I guess I also don't understand that if ahci isnt supposed to work on the non ICH9R chipsets then why is it an option ?

P.S. Woo hoo, member for over 2.5 years and I just made my first post. I rock..

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Posted 16 May 2008 - 07:08 AM

SoulSeeker, the ga-p35-ds3l is the same board puntoMX used and reported success with. Are you sre you did everything 100% correctly?

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Posted 16 May 2008 - 03:19 PM

is there any difference, other than digital signature, between driver in windows and the other one from intel?
when xp finds new hardware I can choose one of these:
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Posted 19 May 2008 - 04:47 AM

After a month and a half using AHCI, I went back to IDE.
Some of you might be interested in the reasons:
1. Burst rate is significantly worse with AHCI.
HDTune reports 120MB/s with AHCI versus 140MB/s with IDE
HD Tach reports 200MB/s with AHCI versus 225MB/s with IDE.
(why Tune & Tach don't give the same values is a mystery, but in all cases IDE > AHCI)
2. CPU consumption is definitely higher when using AHCI compared to IDE for seemingly no speed increase whatsoever.
3. AHCI introduces a HDD sleep bug !
I have 2 HDDs. In XP (SP3) power management, I set to switch off the HDDs after 2 hours of inactivity.
When I'm using AHCI, the 2nd HDD never goes to sleep, EVER, if the first one isn't already asleep.
With the same power management settings under IDE, no problem, 2nd HDD goes to sleep after desired time alright even if first HDD keeps being active.
4. Resume from standby is a bit slower.
So for now i'll forget about AHCI for my current config.
Btw, going back to IDE is easy as hell, just swith back to IDE in BIOS, reboot and all is fine.
If you're sure you won't be ever going back to AHCI you can remove the intel matrix storage manager driver (iaStor)
Later,

TSR

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 06:04 PM

View Posttjanitolkaj, on May 13 2008, 11:54 PM, said:

Looks like there is a typo in the Registry File:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_2923&cc_0106]
"Service"="iaStor"
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"


Should be:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#ven_8086&dev_2923&cc_0106]
"Service"="iaStor"
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
Good one, I didnīt think about that and I will edit it directly, credits to you, thank you.

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 05:43 AM

View Posttheshadowrunner, on May 19 2008, 12:47 PM, said:

After a month and a half using AHCI, I went back to IDE.
Some of you might be interested in the reasons:
1. Burst rate is significantly worse with AHCI.
HDTune reports 120MB/s with AHCI versus 140MB/s with IDE
HD Tach reports 200MB/s with AHCI versus 225MB/s with IDE.
(why Tune & Tach don't give the same values is a mystery, but in all cases IDE > AHCI)
2. CPU consumption is definitely higher when using AHCI compared to IDE for seemingly no speed increase whatsoever.
3. AHCI introduces a HDD sleep bug !
I have 2 HDDs. In XP (SP3) power management, I set to switch off the HDDs after 2 hours of inactivity.
When I'm using AHCI, the 2nd HDD never goes to sleep, EVER, if the first one isn't already asleep.
With the same power management settings under IDE, no problem, 2nd HDD goes to sleep after desired time alright even if first HDD keeps being active.
4. Resume from standby is a bit slower.
So for now i'll forget about AHCI for my current config.
Btw, going back to IDE is easy as hell, just swith back to IDE in BIOS, reboot and all is fine.
If you're sure you won't be ever going back to AHCI you can remove the intel matrix storage manager driver (iaStor)
Later,

TSR


I've had the same experiences with vista as well as xp 64. However, once i installed proper drivers, the hdd sleep bug went away. I think its more work to have it installed as starting other things from cd/dvd that does have its own ahci drivers on media will not recognize drives. Its more hazzle then its worth for performance, and there is very neglible gain at _best_.

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Posted 30 May 2008 - 06:25 AM

Hi Everyone!

I have a Gigabyte P35-DS3 Rev1.0 (ICH9) motherboard with a SATAII HDD and I use Vista 32-bit. But I CANNOT activate the AHCI features, such as NCQ.
I know that Vista supports AHCI out of the box.
When I tried to install Vista in AHCI mode:
- Vista saw my HDD and started install itself
- after about 5 minutes the intallation stopped (no BSOD, no error message, just stopped)
So I could install it in IDE-emulate mode. After the installation I switched to AHCI and then BSOD under startup.
So I did these instructions: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976
Now I can use Vista in AHCI mode but I DON'T use the AHCI features (NCQ, hot-plugging) and the speed is a bit slower than before...

Can someone give me any suggestion?

Thx in advance!

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Posted 30 May 2008 - 09:42 AM

It works very well on a Gigabyte GA-P35-S3G !
Thank you.
Rackman
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Posted 31 May 2008 - 09:44 AM

Interesting... Has anyone ever tried implanting Msahci.sys onto XP? I would take a look at it, but don't have enough knowledge... (and Vista, too).

GL

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Posted 31 May 2008 - 01:30 PM

View PostTranceEnergy, on May 27 2008, 01:43 PM, said:

I've had the same experiences with vista as well as xp 64. However, once i installed proper drivers, the hdd sleep bug went away. I think its more work to have it installed as starting other things from cd/dvd that does have its own ahci drivers on media will not recognize drives. Its more hazzle then its worth for performance, and there is very neglible gain at _best_.


This is interesting. I thought running the drive in native mode would benefit at least a LITTLE bit...

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Posted 31 May 2008 - 04:06 PM

View PostRackman, on May 30 2008, 04:42 PM, said:

It works very well on a Gigabyte GA-P35-S3G !
Thank you.
Rackman
France (Toulouse)


XP pro SP2

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Posted 02 June 2008 - 06:49 PM

View Posttheshadowrunner, on May 19 2008, 06:47 AM, said:

After a month and a half using AHCI, I went back to IDE.
Some of you might be interested in the reasons:
1. Burst rate is significantly worse with AHCI.
HDTune reports 120MB/s with AHCI versus 140MB/s with IDE
HD Tach reports 200MB/s with AHCI versus 225MB/s with IDE.
(why Tune & Tach don't give the same values is a mystery, but in all cases IDE > AHCI)
2. CPU consumption is definitely higher when using AHCI compared to IDE for seemingly no speed increase whatsoever.
3. AHCI introduces a HDD sleep bug !
I have 2 HDDs. In XP (SP3) power management, I set to switch off the HDDs after 2 hours of inactivity.
When I'm using AHCI, the 2nd HDD never goes to sleep, EVER, if the first one isn't already asleep.
With the same power management settings under IDE, no problem, 2nd HDD goes to sleep after desired time alright even if first HDD keeps being active.
4. Resume from standby is a bit slower.
So for now i'll forget about AHCI for my current config.
Btw, going back to IDE is easy as hell, just swith back to IDE in BIOS, reboot and all is fine.
If you're sure you won't be ever going back to AHCI you can remove the intel matrix storage manager driver (iaStor)
Later,

TSR

I am currently running the modified driver.
For the last two days, I have been fooling with making bootable cd's and bootable USB. These devices do not have the drivers for the harddrive in ahci so they either crash or just do not see the hard drive. (I had enough trouble just getting the usb image to work at all, so I have not tried to add in the hacked driver).

So I decided to revert back to IDE mode, but when I set the bios back, all I got was the BSOD/stop screen, at about the point where it should be loading the desktop. (this is booting from the normally working harddrive not usb or cd) I didnt try anything else yet, like removing the HD or controller devices from the device manager, or seeing if i can roll back a driver. I dont want to get myself into a situation that I cannot boot the drive at all. I set it back to ahci and it boots fine, but for now I am stuck in ahci.

I thought I did get it to revert back on the first day, but it is not working for me now.
So for me at least, going back was not 'easy as hell'. GA-P35-S3G. maybe I will try it another day.

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