[Marius '95]

I just created a RAID 0 logical drive using HPT372 and 2 WD5000AAJB. I have 1TB of free space and no way to format it!
I just created a FAT32 partition with Ranish Partition Manager, saved it and rebooted. I was planning to format it form Windows, (Rightclick-Format...) but there is a problem. Windows tries to format it as a 98GB partition. FORMAT.COM - same problem.
I could format it with Ranish Partition Manager, but it creates 16KB clusters. 16KB clusters on a 1TB partition means a VERY big FAT.

I really don't want to abandon Win98. It have been my primary OS for 6 years.

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This post has been edited by Marius '95: 22 January 2008 - 08:24 AM

[Tihiy]

Try formatting it using fixed tools:
http://www.msfn.org/...MAT-t85573.html
or other tools, from FreeDOS or other partition managers.

FreeDOS format:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/...ormat-0.91v.zip

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 22 January 2008 - 08:55 AM

[Marius '95]

Fixed FORMAT.COM
FreeDOS FORMAT.EXE

Another question: how do I check for errors? I don't expect scandisk or norton to work...

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This post has been edited by Marius '95: 22 January 2008 - 02:30 PM

[dencorso]

Marius'95, on Jan 22 2008, 05:06 PM, said:

Another question: how do I check for errors? I don't expect scandisk or norton to work...

Norton Disk Doctor (from Norton Utilities 2002 rev 10E) should work, as well as ndd32, from within Win98SE.
To format it I'd use GDISK or GDISK32 from Symantec Ghost. When RPM can't do the job, it's my preferred
alternative. But there's plenty of free altenatives to it, that I never tried...

[jimmsta]

Try fat32format, available here: http://www.ridgecrop...fat32format.htm
AFAIK, it works on win98. It should fully support your 1TB drive, with no problems.

[Marius '95]

Too late. I already did it with Acronis tools from XP. I am now using the disc space, so I can't format it again to test other format utilities.
I tried to check for errors. Results:

Scandisk from DOS - works!
NDD (NU 2001) from DOS - works, but it is very slow.
Scandisk from Windows - doesn't work - out of memory.
NDD (NU 2001) from Windows - doesn't work - BSOD, crash, reset needed. Same problem with Speed Disk.

[Mijzelf]

ScandiskW from ME (and Defrag from ME) could also be able to handle this.

[MDGx]

More fdisk + formatting tools here [mostly free(ware)]:
http://www.mdgx.com/secrets.htm#FDPT

And if you use Scandskw + Defrag in Win9x, make sure you use the ones from WinME:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TLS
http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#WDIW

HTH

[Marius '95]

I just tried scandisk v4.90 from ME. It doesn't work. It's the same error - not enough memory.
So far I could not find a tool that can scan for errors a 1TB FAT32 partition from Windows. ...or defragment it.
Only Scandisk from DOS works.

I also tried DiskMinder for Windows. It freezes after lost cluster scan.

[Xeno86]

Marius'95, on Jan 31 2008, 10:50 PM, said:

I just tried scandisk v4.90 from ME. It doesn't work. It's the same error - not enough memory.
So far I could not find a tool that can scan for errors a 1TB FAT32 partition from Windows. ...or defragment it.
Only Scandisk from DOS works.

I also tried DiskMinder for Windows. It freezes after lost cluster scan.

I also had problems running scandisk (not enough memory) but on a smaller partition - 80GB, created with ranish, big FAT, too.
The ME scandisk from MGDx seems to be either incomplete or there are wrong files because it doesn't work any faster and even though I installed english files (from MGDx's scanfrag.exe package) scandskw was still in polish .
No offence MGDx.

Anyway - you might give Diskeeper Lite 7.0 Build 418 a try.
Also you might try to play with options in DiskMinder because it worked for me very well.

[Marius '95]

Xeno86, on Feb 3 2008, 07:48 PM, said:

Anyway - you might give Diskeeper Lite 7.0 Build 418 a try.
Also you might try to play with options in DiskMinder because it worked for me very well.

DK Lite results: a dir was corrupted.

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This post has been edited by Marius '95: 04 February 2008 - 02:08 AM

[dencorso]

Marius'95, on Jan 31 2008, 05:50 PM, said:

I just tried scandisk v4.90 from ME. It doesn't work. It's the same error - not enough memory.
So far I could not find a tool that can scan for errors a 1TB FAT32 partition from Windows. ...or defragment it.
Only Scandisk from DOS works.

I also tried DiskMinder for Windows. It freezes after lost cluster scan.

Hi Marius '95!

It seems that Xeno86 is right, and dskmaint.dll from ME is also needed for things to work right using Scandskw and/or Defrag from WinME...
Please try this package and tell us how it fares on your RAID: http://www.mdgx.com/files/BHDD30.ZIP.
And also please do give us an update on how are you managing your RAID, which I believe is the biggest FAT32 disk ever used with Win 9x/ME.
Best wishes.

This post has been edited by dencorso: 22 April 2008 - 11:41 AM

[Marius '95]

Short answer: It doesn't work.
Long answer:
I replaced scandskw.exe and dskmaint.dll. I didn't run the installer because right now I don't have time to test if the installer works properly. This Win98 is the OS I use every day and I don't want to risk anything.
I tried to start scandskw.exe and I got an error saying that my disk is not properly formatted. This is because my C: is compressed with DriveSpace.
I tried "scandskw e:" (my RAID partition) and it didn't work either. Same error as old Scandisk: not enough memory.

Scandisk (my old version, and this new one) does work on a partition 100 GB in size formatted with 32K clusters. I advise everyone not to format large FAT partitions with <32K cluster sizes and not to use Ranish to format partitions - it usually uses 8K clusters . RPM is a great tool for partitioning, but not for formatting.

About my 1TB partition and Win98:
- Format - impossible in DOS/Win98
- Check with Scandisk/NDD in real DOS, impossible in Win98. Note: NDD is very slow. Scandisk takes about 4 min if there are no errors.
- Defragment - impossible in DOS/Win98

This post has been edited by Marius '95: 25 April 2008 - 02:03 AM

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Diskeeper can defragment that.

[dencorso]

Marius'95, on Apr 25 2008, 05:53 AM, said:

Short answer: It doesn't work.
[...]
About my 1TB partition and Win98:
- Format - impossible in DOS/Win98
- Check with Scandisk/NDD in real DOS, impossible in Win98. Note: NDD is very slow. Scandisk takes about 4 min if there are no errors.
- Defragment - impossible in DOS/Win98

Did you try NDD (2002) or just NDD (2001)? The 2002 version is better and faster.

[Philco]

dencorso, on Apr 25 2008, 11:13 AM, said:

Marius'95, on Apr 25 2008, 05:53 AM, said:

Short answer: It doesn't work.
[...]
About my 1TB partition and Win98:
- Format - impossible in DOS/Win98
- Check with Scandisk/NDD in real DOS, impossible in Win98. Note: NDD is very slow. Scandisk takes about 4 min if there are no errors.
- Defragment - impossible in DOS/Win98

Did you try NDD (2002) or just NDD (2001)? The 2002 version is better and faster.

NDD (dos) - (28.7.2001 / NU 2002) 2001 its perfect. With NU 2001 problem with ndd.exe (!) - error running with disk > 128 GB or RAM 1GB. With ndd.exe last (2002) not problem.

[MDGx]

Have you tried DiskMinder [abandoned Helix tools], for DOS + Windows:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/DISKMIND.EXE
ReadMe 1st:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/diskmind.php

Found here:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TLS

HTH

[Kwibus]

I also had problems with scanning my hard disk with the standard win 98 scandisk
I use disk checker instead. (there is a free trial version but it is limited to 30 scans. If you find a bug however you get a free licence)

[SlugFiller]

I have a 250GB single partition. I had the same problem of "Out of memory" for Scandisk and Defrag. After installing a new dskmaint.dll (v4.90.3000) they both worked.

[TheRedFox]

I feel so inferior with my 10gb hdd

i'm kidding, of course.