[Offler]

there is a bit difference. people who need apps working need some information how to do it - even when it is complicated like erasing files or manipulating registers...

If somebody wants to run game we can hardly create such information database, because no one will read it - they will rather use XP. so only solution for common lazy user shall be installation of kernel EX and nothing else - thats why i once refused to edit game executable to force it run - common users will not do that at all.

also games can provide more information about differences between XP and 9x, since there is more games as other apps and they use system resources more intensly. so if the game shall not run the best way how to report it is to use dependency walker, analyze the dll exports and report the missing things.

Games will show incompatibilities more with user32, gdi32, kernel, shell, directX but they will not use some interfaces such as Firefox 3 does. the matter is not same, at least not for me...

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

I understand now. I'll edit my topic and just maintain the applications database from now on.

[Milos M.]

Did Anyone tried Tomb Raider games?

[Offler]

i am sure that most of them belong to rank 1 but i never play them

[Drugwash]

Tomb Raider 1 to 6 (Angel of Darkness) run fine natively in Win98SE, although I've had trouble with refresh rate zero in Angel of Darkness on my old mobo (Jetway 630CF with SiS630 chipset) and had to run it under Win2003 instead (bad video driver probably).

Haven't had a chance to try Legend or Anniversary (is there any newer one?) because minimum hardware requirements largely exceed my possibilities. Too bad, because the TR series is by far my favorite.

[Offler]

added Tomb Raider series.

[halohalo]

Drugwash, on Jul 24 2008, 08:02 AM, said:

Tomb Raider 1 to 6 (Angel of Darkness) run fine natively in Win98SE, although I've had trouble with refresh rate zero in Angel of Darkness on my old mobo (Jetway 630CF with SiS630 chipset) and had to run it under Win2003 instead (bad video driver probably).

Haven't had a chance to try Legend or Anniversary (is there any newer one?) because minimum hardware requirements largely exceed my possibilities. Too bad, because the TR series is by far my favorite.

I've tried installing Anniversary on Win98SE and failed.
It runs on 2000 or above, but the fatal profile corruption bug destroyed records I've made.

[Offler]

so somebody asked me to update the list... i will add some games that surely work, but i am still grateful for any help.

[Sl@y3D for my n@me]

Any more news on steam? I can't say I'm a huge fan of NT at the moment, for many reasons. I would like to see steam back on 98, even if there is only a select bunch of people running it.

[wentyl007]

nfs: most wanted activist kernelex and nfs underground. Half life episode Piratical version (pcgame) Error microsoft shaderapidx9.dll ;/

Rank 1 chodzi:

The Sims 2 + All addition
The punisher
gothic 1
gothic 2
moto racer 3 gold edition
motoGP
motoGp2
medal of honor 1 + All addition
call of duty + Addition
fifa 05
pes 05
bus driver
code of honor
gta vice city
splinter cell 1,2
swat 4
matrix (It is cut)
prince of persia Sands of times
prince of persia Soul of warrior
mafia
nfs underground
unreal 2004
wolfenstein enemy territory
flatout
guilty gear X2
guilty gear isuka (At hold-down xp office)
freedom fighters
XIII
chrome + addition
evil dead regeneration
suffering ties that bind
richard burns rally
midnight club 2
alarm cobra nitro
xpand rally
max payne 1
max payne 2
colin 3,4
morrowind
bloodrayne
bloodrayne 2
Half life 2
Far cry
And many many others, I have mentioned curious


Rank 2 NFS most wanted It walks

[shaddam]

tested this some time ago...

Rank 2:
Heroes of Might and Magic 5 (windows version masq. for install + kernelx + patch 1.41 (i think))
Heroes of Might and Magic 5 - Hammers of Fate (windows version masq. for install + kernelx + patch 2.0)

Rank 4:
Heroes of Might and Magic 5 (with patch >= 1.5 - saving is not working anymore, no folder found)
Heroes of Might and Magic 5 - Hammers of Fate (with patch 2.1 - saving is not working anymore, no folder found)
Supreme Commander (numerous missing exports)

Rank 3:
BTAS: Zak McKracken - between time and space (http://www.zak2.org/...=1&changelang=2) (wxWidgets bug for windows9x systems, worked around by kernelx)

This post has been edited by shaddam: 09 October 2008 - 02:11 PM

[aqcww]

Offler, on Feb 17 2008, 08:30 AM, said:

games able to run on Win9x with kernel ex go to "rank 2". if i understand your question...

also about HL2. i asked support if there should be added to steam a command line switch to skip OS check and try to run Steam on any system. i have to write down the missing exports for steamengine. if they shall be fixed steam and steam shall have a cmd line swith it could work even on Win9x with KEX.

Th3_uN1Qu3, on Jul 17 2008, 01:41 PM, said:

Why not merge it with the Compatibility Database i started? It's useless to have 2 topics on the same thing. I'm running KernelEx 0.3.5.

On topic: Steam sucks. I am a moderator of a non-steam gaming forum and will always run non-steam. Steam CS 1.6 takes 1 minute to open on my main rig, non-steam CS 1.6 takes 3 seconds. Not mentioning Source games... Besides, HL2 is a singleplayer game. Why should i need an internet connection to play it?

I'll be back with my own crappy games list.

Offler, on Jul 18 2008, 04:19 AM, said:

few months ago i bought HL2: EP1. during installation it required internet connection, steam installation and registration. since august 2007 is win9x not supported by steam so installation failed. Game itself is able to run in rank 1...

i would like to separate games from other more usable software, just because for better searching in database...

hl2 series is not the most important.the most important hl2 game is css and dods and tf2..
and a solution for playing hl2 games is that use no-setam(stand alone)game program..but it's not official.

[wentyl007]

aqcww, on Oct 10 2008, 07:11 AM, said:

Offler, on Feb 17 2008, 08:30 AM, said:

games able to run on Win9x with kernel ex go to "rank 2". if i understand your question...

also about HL2. i asked support if there should be added to steam a command line switch to skip OS check and try to run Steam on any system. i have to write down the missing exports for steamengine. if they shall be fixed steam and steam shall have a cmd line swith it could work even on Win9x with KEX.

Th3_uN1Qu3, on Jul 17 2008, 01:41 PM, said:

Why not merge it with the Compatibility Database i started? It's useless to have 2 topics on the same thing. I'm running KernelEx 0.3.5.

On topic: Steam sucks. I am a moderator of a non-steam gaming forum and will always run non-steam. Steam CS 1.6 takes 1 minute to open on my main rig, non-steam CS 1.6 takes 3 seconds. Not mentioning Source games... Besides, HL2 is a singleplayer game. Why should i need an internet connection to play it?

I'll be back with my own crappy games list.

Offler, on Jul 18 2008, 04:19 AM, said:

few months ago i bought HL2: EP1. during installation it required internet connection, steam installation and registration. since august 2007 is win9x not supported by steam so installation failed. Game itself is able to run in rank 1...

i would like to separate games from other more usable software, just because for better searching in database...

hl2 series is not the most important.the most important hl2 game is css and dods and tf2..
and a solution for playing hl2 games is that use no-setam(stand alone)game program..but it's not official.

It walks under WITHOUT 2 HALF LIFE win98se KernelEX. It will suffice (will enough) to pull off version without steam i.e. versions in (to) emporio emule, then, it belongs to pull off under acting crack win98se. Send on forum for version crack emporio? It is in (to) it emule crack.

This post has been edited by wentyl007: 11 October 2008 - 11:24 AM

[Offler]

I want to warn you guys. do not mess up with cracks around this forum. when you own official version of software you can say how to make it run on Win98SE legally. There are some principles which are allowing using some tools or some new code to run game properly, even if that code is not released oficially, but do not call it crack.

Ad: Steam
The technological differences between Win98 version of Steam and WinNT/2k/XP steams are again based (and only based) on adding "EX" exports, which are contained in XP kernel. These exports work very similar to their "nonEX" variants which are contained in win9x kernel, so i think that somebody is trying to spare some money or time during development (somebody is lazy).

Also i have identified some new technological barriers in games - for example TES: Oblivion. I have hardware strong enough to run the game properly. In Windows 98SE the game runs quite slow, on Windows 2000 it runs faster. As some system modules are missing so the game "waits" for them, but it hangs for some time to.

also Ultima Online (first and still active massive online game since 1996). Its executable module is nightmare. If you try to login while "uo.cfg" is present in "game/account" directory the system get BSOD regarding to afvxd.vxd. But if you erase uo.cfg the game will run correctly and uo.cfg will be restored from main game directory.

and the worst - some installations are requesting system services which are not present in Win98Se, not even with KEX. Installations generate numerous error messages. i try to map one of those games.

also i have tested Supreme Commander too. it is not connected only to missing exports, but to other system modules. i cannot say what exactly it needs.

This post has been edited by Offler: 11 October 2008 - 03:45 PM

[aqcww]

hey everyone!maybe i found a great success about steam!maybe you can run steam in 98!
at first,i don`t have win98 in my computer at presant.so i can't try it and make sure this way can make it run in 98.
1.download the steam program(ps:the steam download link:http://steampowered.com/download/SteamInstall.msi)
2.open winrar,and extrack the msi file.
3.you can see a file named steam.exe1.THEN,NAME IT STEAM.EXE.now you can see its ico is steam logo.
4.run it,if it does,you will see a "updating" box.it will download full steam files.(don't forget to add steam.exe=winxp in kexver.ini)
and another one important file is steamservice.exe .i think it can add the steam service to your system.so,if you don't run it before you run steam.exe,maybe you can get an error.so you 'd better to run this file before you run steam.exe,certainly,you must add it in kexver.ini

try your best to run it..
and post the problem to me.

This post has been edited by aqcww: 12 October 2008 - 02:10 AM

[togermano]

Doesn't Steam work under the WINE project for linux..... Sounds like we should make a wine for windows 9x to run newer programs.... It may be our only way to get newer stuff working

[MDGx]

This topic pinned ["stickified"] under "Supported Software, Games + Hardware":
http://www.msfn.org/...showtopic=95815
and moved here:
http://www.msfn.org/...php?showforum=8

Keep up the good work!

[Offler]

i tried to extract steam before and it was not able to run. when you run steam.exe1 it will download latest steam engine which is updated and contain WinXP version files. when i try to run steam.exe afterwards i get no error message, but the executable will not start steam service

then in steam directory this file is created
(failed)STEAM_assert_20081016081121_1.mdmp

which seems to me as some kind of error message. also the steam.log contains this:
CsComm Session Oct-16-2008 08:11:26.851 [4293961989] ReconnectThread (4293961989) Starting


since the clients are updated via server connections we can patch the client, but with any new release of steam the patches we would do will be undone, erased or not functional with newer version of steam.

By the way, i am not sure about that, but the steam files which i downloaded today seems identical with those i downloaded two months after the support for win98 ended.

steamservice.exe is linked to missing export in Kernel32.dll:GetConsoleWindow

and will not start...

since i want to make Valve and Steam creators angry i believe that i will start support steamless projects

[Drugwash]

INFO: An .mdmp file (MiniDump) is a crash report than can be opened in Visual Studio and analyzed by programmers for debugging purposes.

[aqcww]

How about battle field2?i haven't tried it on win98.
but i heard somebody says it can run on 98.