[Giant2011]

You are right, I experienced the same thing.

[jds]

Well, that's encouraging. It would be nice if Fredledingue could give more details and perhaps try restoring the 'STICPL.CPL' file to see if that restored TWAIN functionality.

Anyway, I've decided to give this a try too ... after first making a backup image of my partition.

Joe.

This post has been edited by jds: 03 April 2012 - 08:23 AM

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

jds, on 03 April 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

Anyway, I've decided to give this a try too ... after first making a backup image of my partition.

Joe.

Thanks Can't wait to see to the results.

[jds]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 04 April 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

jds, on 03 April 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

Anyway, I've decided to give this a try too ... after first making a backup image of my partition.

Joe.

Thanks Can't wait to see to the results.

Well, I've tried to make this stuff work over the past couple of days, with the following results :

Firstly, Fredledingue is right. After installing WIA, "HP Scanjet Scanners" (links to 'HPSCNMGR.DLL') no longer appeared in the Control Panel. The 'HPSCNMGR.DLL' file was newer and the 'STICPL.CPL' file was missing. The HP scanner still showed in Device Manager and was supposedly working properly, however, it was neither recognized as present by the HP software nor the WIA "Scanner and Camera Wizard" (links to '%windir%\SYSTEM\WIAACMGR.EXE -SelectDevice'). Restoring the 'HPSCNMGR.DLL' and 'STICPL.CPL' files made no apparent difference.

As for the Fujifilm camera ...
- Using the Microsoft PTP/MTP drivers, as customized in the INF file I uploaded elsewhere, I could only get it to work with the Microsoft 'wmdmcmd.exe' tool, not the Fujifilm software, nor the WIA "Scanner and Camera Wizard", neither was it listed under "Scanners and Cameras" in the Control Panel.
- Conversely, the supplied Fujifilm driver did not work with the Microsoft 'wmdmcmd.exe' tool, but did work with the Fujifilm software and was listed under "Scanners and Cameras" in the Control Panel. However, this too failed to be recognized by the WIA "Scanner and Camera Wizard".

When I deleted the HP scanner from Device Manager and rebooted, it was re-installed as a WIA device and was listed under "Scanners and Cameras" in the Control Panel, however, it failed to be recognized by the WIA "Scanner and Camera Wizard".

After deleting the HP scanner again from Device Manager and also the associated INF file installed by the WIA (I forgot to note its name), I was finally able to restore operation by re-installing the original HP software (a difficult task involving three different version of software and various work-arounds, which is why I hesitated to do this experiment).

So I can confirm that this WIA stuff can break your TWAIN scanner installation.

As for getting it do do anything useful, unfortunately, I was only able to get the two devices listed under "Scanners and Cameras" in the Control Panel, yet somehow, not recognized by the WIA "Scanner and Camera Wizard". I also found that the Microsoft PTP/MTP driver wasn't recognized at all (for the Fujifilm camera), yet only this worked with the Microsoft 'wmdmcmd.exe' tool.

Joe.

[Giant2011]

Hello Joe. I installed my Fuji film camera with the software finepixviewer that was on the cd-rom I got with the camera. There was alo a ptp driver on it.
Scanner & Cameras was removed from control panel. But I opened explorer and there I could see Scanner & Cameras and I could see my the name
of my camera. When it is not connected I see add device under Scanner & Cameras under explorer.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Thanks for testing Joe. It looks like I won't be adding it to the Service Pack. We are about two updates away from final.
Thanks to your testing, I should have the final build in a couple weeks.

[jds]

Giant2011, on 07 April 2012 - 07:34 AM, said:

Hello Joe. I installed my Fuji film camera with the software finepixviewer that was on the cd-rom I got with the camera. There was alo a ptp driver on it.
Scanner & Cameras was removed from control panel. But I opened explorer and there I could see Scanner & Cameras and I could see my the name
of my camera. When it is not connected I see add device under Scanner & Cameras under explorer.

Yes, that's pretty much what happens for me too, however, the camera fails to be recognized by the WIA "Scanner and Camera Wizard" (in Start/Programs/Accessories). So in effect, the WIA stuff does nothing, we are forced to use the supplied viewer software, which is bloated and cumbersome, especially when you start to fill your memory card. As for the "add device" feature under "Scanners and Cameras", this only seems to select from devices in "stillcam.inf", so my camera model isn't selectable that way, even though its driver is available via the standard "add new hardware" wizard.

Joe.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

jds, on 23 March 2012 - 02:48 AM, said:

BTW, I mentioned earlier that the iTouch was mostly non-functional. I'm sure Apple have modified PTP/MTP to require iTunes. Anyway, the main use for this driver with the iTouch is to enable it to be charged, as otherwise it will just sit there connected to a W98SE machine and just ignore the 5V it's receiving. If anybody can get more useful functionality, let us know.

Joe.

Give these files a try

PTPUSB.DLL 4.90.3000.0
PTPUSB.INF
PTPUSD.DLL 4.90.3000.0

WIA is definitely out the question. Lets try to work on getting MTP/PTP working.
Heres a quote from a different website

Quote

I have been having the same problem of not being able to access the digital camera on the Iphone for several months as well. In windows the driver would not be installed and could not be found anywhere. I reinstalled itunes, reapplied XP SP3, and called apple technical support to no avail. Everything worked fine on other computers. I finally corrected this issue by copying several files from a working computer to my main computer. the files are:
c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbscan.sys
c:\windows\system32\ptpusb.dll
c:\windows\system32\ptpusd.dll
c:\windows\inf\ptpusb.inf

I then registered the ptpusb.dll file opening a command prompt and navigating to the c:\windows\system32 directory. The command I used to register the file was:
regsrv32 ptpusb.dll

I then right clicked on the ptpusb.inf file and clicked Install. I am not positive that you have to register the dll with windows since you are installing it, but that is what I did and it worked so I included it. That is pretty much it. I plugged the phone into a different USB slot and in windows found the correct driver and installed the phone. You might have to go into device manager and uninstall the current driver for windows to recognize the phone as a camera and for god sakes if you have a passcode on your phone unlock the phone. Now if I could only figure out what caused these files to disappear in the first place. I hope this helps someone.

[jds]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 08 April 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

Give these files a try

PTPUSB.DLL 4.90.3000.0
PTPUSB.INF
PTPUSD.DLL 4.90.3000.0

OK, the WIA package includes version 4.90.3000.1 of the DLL's, however, where do I find that INF file?

Joe.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

jds, on 09 April 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

OK, the WIA package includes version 4.90.3000.1 of the DLL's, however, where do I find that INF file?

Joe.

I think you get the (inf) file from a WinXP machine. I not sure because it wasn't present on any of my comps.

[Giant2011]

I have found in the inf directory the following file wiafbdrv.inf from windows 98. I think wia is only for old cameras ans scanners.
Are you sure that the wia installer installs a ptp driver.

[Giant2011]

Well you are right I looked at the wia11.exe installer and converted the extension to 7z.

[Giant2011]

There are several inf packages within wia11.7z. In _wia.inf I have seen the ptp drivers.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Giant2011, on 09 April 2012 - 11:28 AM, said:

I have found in the inf directory the following file wiafbdrv.inf from windows 98. I think wia is only for old cameras ans scanners.
Are you sure that the wia installer installs a ptp driver.

Yes, the files listed

PTPUSB.DLL 4.90.3000.0
PTPUSB.INF WINXP SP3 CD
PTPUSD.DLL 4.90.3000.0

This post has been edited by PROBLEMCHYLD: 09 April 2012 - 12:03 PM

[Giant2011]

Yes I know you are right. I also watched in wia11.exe by changing the extension to 7z. There are many other inf files.

[jds]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 09 April 2012 - 10:08 AM, said:

jds, on 09 April 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

OK, the WIA package includes version 4.90.3000.1 of the DLL's, however, where do I find that INF file?

Joe.

I think you get the (inf) file from a WinXP machine. I not sure because it wasn't present on any of my comps.

OK, I managed to find a copy of PTPUSB.INF (version 5.1.2600.0) at www.infdump.com, and tried this with the requisite DLL's from the WIA package.

Well, I added my Fujifilm camera's USB ID, etc. to the INF file, so basically this invoked the same 'PTP' section as for the "Generic" case. The driver installed fine, asking for the location of a DLL or two, after which the camera appeared in the Device Manager as an Imaging Device, and reported as "working properly". It also showed up in 'Scanners & Cameras'.

However, that's as far as it got. It wasn't available via the Imaging application, nor IrfanView, nor more importantly, WIA's "Scanner and Camera Wizard".

So again, WIA seems useless. PTPUSB.INF also seems useless. The only thing that's worked is the supplied Fujifilm driver with their cumbersome FinePix Viewer and Microsoft's driver that I customized here and here with their 'wmdmcmd.exe' utility.

Joe.

This post has been edited by jds: 12 April 2012 - 03:09 AM

[Giant2011]

Are you sure the ptp driver works with irfanview on windows xp. Sorry I have not tried it on XP. I know it does not work on windows 98 with
irfanview. The only thing I have seen that it supports the twain driver for scan devices. I can only select a twain source.

[jds]

Giant2011, on 12 April 2012 - 06:46 AM, said:

Are you sure the ptp driver works with irfanview on windows xp. Sorry I have not tried it on XP. I know it does not work on windows 98 with
irfanview. The only thing I have seen that it supports the twain driver for scan devices. I can only select a twain source.

I don't know what works with XP, I don't use it. This WIA package is supposed to work for 98, but I haven't figured out when/how.

Joe.

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Thanks for testing jds Looks like I won't be adding MTP/PTP drivers since they are not working.

[jds]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 12 April 2012 - 07:39 AM, said:

Thanks for testing jds Looks like I won't be adding MTP/PTP drivers since they are not working.

Well, you could include the Microsoft driver that I customized and the 'wmdmcmd.exe' utility, this is sufficient for rudimentary support of standard PTP/MTP devices and is fairly small (and it works and it doesn't break TWAIN drivers).

Joe.