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What Not To Remove For Some Programs Components needed for apps to work Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   Legolash2o 

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  Posted 28 March 2008 - 03:17 PM

Theres a similar topic for nLite so thought... lets make one for vLite :D Eventually it will build up.

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ATI Catalyst
Components: System -> .NET Framework (Extreme)
Error: "The application failed to initialize proiperly (0xc0000135).Click OK to terminate the application."
Note: You won't be able to change any settings without it. 3rd party tools can only change rudimentary settings.

Avira AntiVir 8
Components: Services -> Windows Event Log
Error: The AntiVir Guard does not start if the Event Log is removed.

Canon Printers or Multifunctional Device(Printer/Scanner/Copy)
Components:Drivers-->Printers-->Canon
Error:Canon driver install fails.Device(s) will not be recognized
Notes:Bad thing is that this particular built in driver weights no more than ~298MB :blink: (more than any other printer driver!).

View Postteemue, on Apr 19 2008, 12:17 PM, said:

I have Canon Pixma IP2000 printer, removed Canon printer drivers but integrated IP2000 drivers (in fact they were meant for XP). Works well! :)

View PostTomorrow, on Apr 21 2008, 07:41 AM, said:

Im using Canon MP110.Removed def Canon drivers and integrated correct Vista x86 MP110 drivers but printer was not recognized no matter what.

Dreammail
Components:Jet Database Engine
Error: Won't work properly.
Note: http://www.msfn.org/...en-t116903.html

Logon studio Vista
Components: System -> .NET Framework (Extreme)
Error: Does not open.

Microsoft Update
Components:Microsoft HTML Engine and Internet Explorer
Error: Clicking "Get updates for more products" link on "Windows Update" doesn't work, it just does/opens nothing.

Nokia PC Suite
Components:Hardware Support-->Modem Support
Error:You wont be able to use your nokia phone as modem because driver install fails.Also PC Suite install(as a whole)may fail.

O&O Defrag
Components: Services -> Windows Event Log
Error: The fails to load up complaining about Event Log not being started

Paint .NET
Components: System -> .NET Framework (Extreme)
Error: Does not open.

Samsung PC Studio
Components:Modem Support
Error:Just won't work

Smartcard Reader
Components:Hardware Support--> Smartcards
Error:Driver install fails.Device(s) not usable.
Note:Do not remove if you are using any type of smartcard reader!.

SQL Server Express 2005
Components: Services-> Distributed Transaction Coordinator (DTC)
Error: Failed to load SqlSpars.dll XOLEHLP.dll MSDTCPRX.dll MTXCLU.dll

Synaptics Touchpad
Components: Services -> UAC
Error: You must active UAC to setup Synaptics Touchpad console

TuneUp Utilities 2008
Components: Services -> Task Scheduler
Error: You are not able to enter the TuneUp options page. TuneUp just quits if you want to open the options and Task Scheduler isn't present.

Ventrilo
Components: Ease Of Access
Error: If you remove Ease of Access you are unable to use the built-in TTS (text-to-speech)

View PostOcDevil, on Apr 28 2008, 08:15 AM, said:

Ventrilo will work just fine without Ease Of Access, but if you need the TTS (text-to-speech), instead of just making a sound, the client "plays" the name of the person logging in or out of the server/channel. This will not work if the Ease of Access is removed, because the Microsoft TTS software is a part of the Ease of Access feature.

Vize
Components: System -> .NET Framework (Extreme)
Error: Does not open.

vLite
Components: System -> .NET Framework (Extreme)
Error: "The application failed to initialize proiperly (0xc0000135).Click OK to terminate the application."

WinAMP
Component: Microsoft HTML Engine
Error:Shoutcast TV/Radio wont work without it. It installs/works fine when just playing music n movies just gets an error message when selecting an online service like the two examples above.
Note: It is safe to remove Windows Media Components and WMP when installing WinAMP as it installs codecs which lets you play AVI, MP3's etc..

Windows Live Messenger
Components: Services-->Events Log
Error: The Messenger Sharing Folders USN Journal Reader service use Event log to work properly. You may encounter some errors when you want to use sharing folder in WLM
Note: Using Windows Live Messenger for normal use still works fine.

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Got anything to add? post below :P Try not to report any if it already says in vLite. :)

I haven't found all these myself i'm just putting all the ones said below in the first post so its easier to find and they are also in alphabetical order.

This post has been edited by LegoLiam™: 01 June 2008 - 04:12 AM



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Posted 28 March 2008 - 03:41 PM

Nokia PC Suite
Components:Hardware Support-->Modem Support
Error:You wont be able to use your nokia phone as modem because driver install fails.Also PC Suite install(as a whole)may fail.
Note(s):

Smartcard Reader
Components:Hardware Support-->Smartcards
Error:Driver install fails.Device(s) not usable.
Note(s):Do not remove if you are using any type of smartcard reader!.

Any Canon Printer or Multifunctional Device(Printer/Scanner/Copy)
Components:Drivers-->Printers-->Canon
Error:Canon driver install fails.Device(s) will not be recognized
Note(s):Bad thing is that this particular built in driver weights no more than ~298MB :blink: (more than any other printer driver!).

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 07:45 AM

This thread should be made sticky.

And more people should participate considering that Vista is going to replace XP in time.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 10:18 AM

Avira AntiVir 8
Components: Services -> Windows Event Log
Error: The AntiVir Guard does not start if the Event Log is removed.

TuneUp Utilities 2008
Components: Services -> Task Scheduler
Error: You are not able to enter the TuneUp options page. TuneUp just quits if you want to open the options and Task Scheduler isn't present.

This post has been edited by Dynaletik: 15 April 2008 - 10:19 AM


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Posted 15 April 2008 - 12:10 PM

Cheers keep em coming :) :thumbup

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 01:49 AM

iPod with iTunes:
Components: Hardware Support-->Smartcards
Error: None
Note: You Apple iPod will simply not be recognized by iTunes

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 12:30 PM

View PostRamGuy, on Apr 16 2008, 07:49 AM, said:

iPod with iTunes:
Components: Hardware Support-->Smartcards
Error: None
Note: You Apple iPod will simply not be recognized by iTunes


That's strange, i remove SmartCards and my iPod works fine, i use SharePod now anyways its much better, free, smaller and you can just copy the folder to your ipod so you can copy songs anywhere cos u dont have to install it.

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Posted 16 April 2008 - 09:07 PM

View PostLegoLiam™, on Apr 16 2008, 08:30 PM, said:

View PostRamGuy, on Apr 16 2008, 07:49 AM, said:

iPod with iTunes:
Components: Hardware Support-->Smartcards
Error: None
Note: You Apple iPod will simply not be recognized by iTunes


That's strange, i remove SmartCards and my iPod works fine, i use SharePod now anyways its much better, free, smaller and you can just copy the folder to your ipod so you can copy songs anywhere cos u dont have to install it.



Hmm, will try that then :)

I thought it was stated by Apple themselves that iPod would not function (at least not as it should) if you remove / disable the smartcards

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Posted 17 April 2008 - 03:03 AM

O&O Defrag
Components: Services -> Windows Event Log
Error: The fails to load up complaining about Event Log not being started


^i'm assuming this is still valid with vista, it creates this problem in xp/2003 anyway


-edit, liam, are you on ocuk / hexus forum? or did i used to play CS with you? 'cky2k' was my cs name back in the day

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 01:54 AM

Ventrilo
Components: Ease Of Access

If you remove Ease of Access you are unable to use the built-in TTS (text-to-speech)

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 06:17 AM

View PostLegoLiam™, on Mar 28 2008, 11:17 PM, said:

Canon Printers or Multifunctional Device(Printer/Scanner/Copy)
Components:Drivers-->Printers-->Canon
Error:Canon driver install fails.Device(s) will not be recognized
Notes:Bad thing is that this particular built in driver weights no more than ~298MB :blink: (more than any other printer driver!).



I have Canon Pixma IP2000 printer, removed Canon printer drivers but integrated IP2000 drivers (in fact they were meant for XP). Works well! :)

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 12:14 PM

SQL Server Express 2005
Components: Services-> Distributed Transaction Coordinator (DTC)
Error: Failed to load SqlSpars.dll XOLEHLP.dll MSDTCPRX.dll MTXCLU.dll

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 12:41 AM

View PostOcDevil, on Apr 19 2008, 10:54 AM, said:

Ventrilo
Components: Ease Of Access

If you remove Ease of Access you are unable to use the built-in TTS (text-to-speech)

Hmm.I use Ventrilo.Removed Ease of Access but so far had not had any problems with Ventrilo(i dont use text-to-speech)

View Postteemue, on Apr 19 2008, 03:17 PM, said:

View PostLegoLiam™, on Mar 28 2008, 11:17 PM, said:

Canon Printers or Multifunctional Device(Printer/Scanner/Copy)
Components:Drivers-->Printers-->Canon
Error:Canon driver install fails.Device(s) will not be recognized
Notes:Bad thing is that this particular built in driver weights no more than ~298MB :blink: (more than any other printer driver!).



I have Canon Pixma IP2000 printer, removed Canon printer drivers but integrated IP2000 drivers (in fact they were meant for XP). Works well! :)

Im using Canon MP110.Removed def Canon drivers and integrated correct Vista x86 MP110 drivers but printer was not recognized no matter what.

This post has been edited by Tomorrow: 21 April 2008 - 12:43 AM


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Posted 21 April 2008 - 09:54 AM

View PostNick_White, on Apr 14 2008, 07:45 AM, said:

This thread should be made sticky.

And more people should participate considering that Vista is going to replace XP in time.


It's not the subject but recently, the CIO of Microsoft clearly said that Vista is a "work in progress" so I really don't think that it is going to replace XP soon... Windows 7 is more likely to be the real xp killer.

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 10:01 AM

View Posttitikab, on Apr 21 2008, 05:54 PM, said:

View PostNick_White, on Apr 14 2008, 07:45 AM, said:

This thread should be made sticky.

And more people should participate considering that Vista is going to replace XP in time.


It's not the subject but recently, the CIO of Microsoft clearly said that Vista is a "work in progress" so I really don't think that it is going to replace XP soon... Windows 7 is more likely to be the real xp killer.

Not wanting to get offtopic here:Every OS is "work in progress".XP,Mac OSX.Well maybe not Win ME :lol:

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 10:52 AM

View PostTomorrow, on Apr 21 2008, 08:41 AM, said:

View Postteemue, on Apr 19 2008, 03:17 PM, said:

View PostLegoLiam™, on Mar 28 2008, 11:17 PM, said:

Canon Printers or Multifunctional Device(Printer/Scanner/Copy)
Components:Drivers-->Printers-->Canon
Error:Canon driver install fails.Device(s) will not be recognized
Notes:Bad thing is that this particular built in driver weights no more than ~298MB :blink: (more than any other printer driver!).



I have Canon Pixma IP2000 printer, removed Canon printer drivers but integrated IP2000 drivers (in fact they were meant for XP). Works well! :)

Im using Canon MP110.Removed def Canon drivers and integrated correct Vista x86 MP110 drivers but printer was not recognized no matter what.



EPSON has same issues, when "vistaish" drivers removed won`t install (XP nor Vista drivers)
Just hangs on driver install...no errors...no nothing... :unsure:
Only "exit" is kill setup & other setup processes from TaskManager (0% CPU usage btw, left overnight)


Tested on StylusPhoto 2200 & StylusPhoto R200

Samsung, Works fine (ML-1610) :whistle:


EDIT:

BTW there is minor error in this list... :rolleyes:

View PostLegoLiam™, on Mar 28 2008, 11:17 PM, said:

Theres a similar topic for nLite so thought... lets make one for vLite :D Eventually it will build up.

Samsung PC Studio
Components:Modem Support
Error:You wont be able to use your nokia phone as modem because driver install fails.Also PC Suite install(as a whole)may fail.


:rolleyes:

What Samsung PC Studio & Phones has to do...with Nokia Phones & Nokia PC Suite?

This post has been edited by Etz: 21 April 2008 - 11:04 AM


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Posted 21 April 2008 - 10:57 PM

View PostEtz, on Apr 21 2008, 06:52 PM, said:

BTW there is minor error in this list... :rolleyes:

View PostLegoLiam™, on Mar 28 2008, 11:17 PM, said:

Theres a similar topic for nLite so thought... lets make one for vLite :D Eventually it will build up.

Samsung PC Studio
Components:Modem Support
Error:You wont be able to use your nokia phone as modem because driver install fails.Also PC Suite install(as a whole)may fail.


:rolleyes:

What Samsung PC Studio & Phones has to do...with Nokia Phones & Nokia PC Suite?

Problaby a minor spelling error that has been corrected if you look at the first post.

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 03:13 AM

Is it 100% true that if you remove any components from Vista, future service packs will be uninstallable?

I read here:
http://www.leog.net/...?TOPIC_ID=12465
that you can remove the language packs and SP1 will still install normally.

If that is true, would it extend to any other bulk on the disk, like the non-essential bundled drivers?

Off topic now, but is there any chance of a xlite'd / hacked SP1 install that would work on a vlite'd system, such as a modularisation into individual hotfixes and a loader that will abort any failed components? Or the possibility of a similar thing for SP2 in the future?

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 04:49 AM

View Poststrengthofmind, on Apr 23 2008, 11:13 AM, said:

Is it 100% true that if you remove any components from Vista, future service packs will be uninstallable?

thats true mate.Every conponent that you remove increases the risk of SP install will fail.If you know you are going to install a service pack to vLited Vista then do not remove anything.Better yet...get a Vista image with SP1 pre-integrated and remove what you want or use the vLite slipstream tab to slipstream SP1(still kinda buggy tho...).This was a big problem 3-4 months ago when SP1 was in Beta/RC.But given the options available today its a pseudo-problem.

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 02:36 PM

synaptics touchpad
Components: Services -> UAC
Error: You must active UAC to setup synaptics touchpad console

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