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#1 User is offline   mellimik 

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Posted 06 May 2008 - 05:52 AM

I just installed one Windows 2008 Standard server and added the WDS role on it. We are running our AD in Windows Server 2003 mode and had already earlier installed a RIS server on an 2003 R2 server. The wdsserver service is turned off on our old RIS machine and only the new 2008 server with the WDS role is on. I'm trying to manually approve a machine requesting to get service but am instantly greeted with just the "access is denied" prompt. This is the Windows Deployment Services snap-in opened using the "Run as an Administrator" from the context menu, that is.

After googling a lot about this problem I have learned that the computer object of the new 2008 server needs to have the "Create computer object" rights in the Domain Controller OU etc.

1: Deploying Vista via WDS
2: WDS When pending devices try to Approve --> Access Denied

Following the instructions explained on those before mentioned links don't provide a solution for us. After too many hours of hitting my head against the wall I figured out that I could still prestage the machine with GUID. Things is that Active Directory Users and Computers snap-in does not have the option to do so anymore? When I click "New -> Computer" on top of one of our OU's I can only type the name of the machine and there is no option to click next and choose "This is an managed computer" like I've seen at least before.

Anyone has any clues what's going on, did I irreversibly change something on our AD when I installed WDS? :unsure:

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Posted 06 May 2008 - 06:39 AM

Actually there's nothing RIS related visible when using the Active Directory Users and Computers snap-in. When I used to right click the RIS server computer object there was that "Remote install" tab where you could view properties of the RIS server, even that tab is gone now. I have tried this on both of our Domain Controllers.

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Posted 06 May 2008 - 01:44 PM

hi, did you do the following when setting up WDS on Windows Server 2008 ?

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Before you begin, you need to configure Windows Deployment Services by running either the Windows Deployment Services Configuration Wizard or WDSUtil.exe. You will also need to add at least one boot image and one install image in the image store.


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Posted 07 May 2008 - 10:15 AM

View Postanyweb, on May 6 2008, 09:44 PM, said:

hi, did you do the following when setting up WDS on Windows Server 2008 ?

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Before you begin, you need to configure Windows Deployment Services by running either the Windows Deployment Services Configuration Wizard or WDSUtil.exe. You will also need to add at least one boot image and one install image in the image store.


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Yes, I did follow that. WDS is functioning just fine, just as the old RIS server, too. Problem is that I cannot prestage machines using Active Directory Users and Computers snap-in nor can I view that Remote Install tab anymore on our RIS machine's AD object.

I just installed virtual environment to test this and I cannot prestage computer accounts there either. The virtual env consists of AD running in Windows 2003 Server mode, all the member servers running 2003 R2 SP2 and WDS configured using the legacy wizard.

What in earth is the problem here? Where's my RIS related tabs and prestaging functionality?

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Posted 07 May 2008 - 03:17 PM

well you do know that RIS is not supported at all in Windows server 2008 don't you ? W2k8 only supports WDS in native mode

In native mode (both Windows Server 2003 and Windows Server 2008), there is NO RIS functionality, you will only have access to WinPE or WIM images. Management of WDS is via the WDS mmc console or via command line, and Native mode is the only option in Windows Server 2008.

I am in the process of doing a new install of Windows Server 2008 and hopefully will have some suggestions for you shortly

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 03:53 AM

View Postanyweb, on May 7 2008, 11:17 PM, said:

I am in the process of doing a new install of Windows Server 2008 and hopefully will have some suggestions for you shortly


See if you can use the prestage option using the Active Directory Users and Computers snap-in running on the Domain Contoller?

I just installed the Adminpak.msi onto my old RIS server, using the AD Users and Computers snap-in I can verify that Remote Install tab is present when browing properties of the RIS computer object, and when creating new computer object I can also prestage it. I have no clue why, though? Why would that snap-in behave differently when run on the RIS server and when run on DC for e.g.?

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 07:06 AM

dunno if this is what you mean but i tried adding a new computer in AD users and computers

like so

Attached File  test.jpg (23.31K)
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i then selected that it was a managed computer

Attached File  managed.jpg (24.79K)
Number of downloads: 15

i selected my windows 2008 server as the remote install server

Attached File  remote.jpg (23.62K)
Number of downloads: 8

and then we saw a summary of those actions

Attached File  managed_pc.jpg (20.82K)
Number of downloads: 10

finally once the computer is added in ADDS, I can right click it and the Remote Install tab is PRESENT

see here
Attached File  remote_tab.jpg (33.62K)
Number of downloads: 11

so I wonder did you configure your WDS server like I did (look at step 4 and 5), please check your setup, also, have you sysprepped this windows 2008 server in any way ?


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Posted 06 August 2008 - 06:31 AM

View Postmellimik, on May 6 2008, 05:52 AM, said:

I just installed one Windows 2008 Standard server and added the WDS role on it. We are running our AD in Windows Server 2003 mode and had already earlier installed a RIS server on an 2003 R2 server. The wdsserver service is turned off on our old RIS machine and only the new 2008 server with the WDS role is on. I'm trying to manually approve a machine requesting to get service but am instantly greeted with just the "access is denied" prompt. This is the Windows Deployment Services snap-in opened using the "Run as an Administrator" from the context menu, that is.

After googling a lot about this problem I have learned that the computer object of the new 2008 server needs to have the "Create computer object" rights in the Domain Controller OU etc.

1: Deploying Vista via WDS
2: WDS When pending devices try to Approve --> Access Denied

Following the instructions explained on those before mentioned links don't provide a solution for us. After too many hours of hitting my head against the wall I figured out that I could still prestage the machine with GUID. Things is that Active Directory Users and Computers snap-in does not have the option to do so anymore? When I click "New -> Computer" on top of one of our OU's I can only type the name of the machine and there is no option to click next and choose "This is an managed computer" like I've seen at least before.

Anyone has any clues what's going on, did I irreversibly change something on our AD when I installed WDS? :unsure:

Attachment create_new.PNG


I had the same exact problem. I resolved this by reinstalling the adminpak.msi. Then the problem went away.

Good luck!

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